Bangladesh Need Replacing?

As I type, Bangladesh are on yet another hiding, which will be their 68th loss in 82 games, spread over 14 years, if I'm reading it right. Also in those 82 games, they've won just four matches.

To me they haven't actually improved at all, and offer nothing to test match cricket, only that teams are obliged to them.

So, my question is, do they deserve test status, and who should replace them, if anyone?

Test status should be revoked ASAP. 

Bangladesh are awful. Their bowlers have no skills what so ever. 

Only Pakistan and Sri Lanka ever play them, to boost their stats.  

No one should replaced them. 

And off their 4 wins, 2 where against a West Indies side depleted by a contract dispute. And their maiden Test win was against a Zimbabwe side pro white players quitting.

No, they don't need to be replaced. Don't forget it took New Zealand 26 years to win a test match.
Besides, stats do not tell you everything. Bangladesh have been steadily improving in test cricket over the last couple of years and even in their previous series, they held New Zealand to a draw. They performed well in Sri Lanka when they were there the last time , and ran the West Indies close during their last engagement. Besides Shakib, Mushfiqur and Tamim Iqbal, they are find new heros in different games.
What Bangladesh need is a sustained exposure to test cricket. They play very few test matches, and that too far in between. So every time they start, they have to start afresh.
Bangladesh have a passionate fan base, and the likes of Shakib and Mushfiqur are class players. Shakib can easily walk into the sides of South Africa, Australia, England....... Test cricket will be poorer without the likes of him.

Have they been improving? Not from what I see, when they tour England.

They toured England last in 2010 didn't they? Even then, the likes of Tamim Iqbal were producing test worthy performances.

msp83 wrote:They toured England last in 2010 didn't they? Even then, the likes of Tamim Iqbal were producing test worthy performances.

Yes, 2010, and they were no better than 2005, and have won FOUR tests in 13 years. So what if one player misses out. he's good but not great.

I have never been even half excited to follow any of BD games......

I think BD themselves will be relieved if their test status is revoked.......will give them license to use all that time to play ODIs and T20s and league cricket.....get away from commercially nonviable form of test cricket.

None of the minnows / Associate nations will ever play test cricket in future I believe.

If they are to improve, then they have to get regular opportunities. They haven't toured India yet as the BCCI never invited them, and everyone else play just the 2 tests against them. The tours are often short with not too much of practice games, and by the time they get used to the conditions, the tour is over.
When India, Pakistan New Zealand and the West Indies were taking their baby steps in international cricket the tours were long, when they toured England for example, it would last for months and would involve a number of games with county sides. Bangladesh are to develop without anything like that as a support system, so we have to be patient.
Otherwise we can keep cricket as an exclusionist game, and test cricket will not reach out to anywhere else in the world, and eventually whtn the likes of West Indies and New Zealand also continue to slip, we can get them replaced, and like the BullyBoy Club want, we can have an India Australia tour every 3rd month, and Ashes doubleheaders every 6 months.

Who's saying replace NZ etc? There's a difference between bad and terrible. Sri-Lanka only use to get one test against us (now only two, which is a joke), but they improved no end. Fact is, Bangladesh have had 14 years to get up to standard, and have failed.

msp83 wrote:If they are to improve, then they have to get regular opportunities. They haven't toured India yet as the BCCI never invited them, and everyone else play just the 2 tests against them. The tours are often short with not too much of practice games, and by the time they get used to the conditions, the tour is over.
When India, Pakistan New Zealand and the West Indies were taking their baby steps in international cricket the tours were long, when they toured England for example, it would last for months and would involve a number of games with county sides. Bangladesh are to develop without anything like that as a support system, so we have to be patient.
Otherwise we can keep cricket as an exclusionist game, and test cricket will not reach out to anywhere else in the world, and eventually whtn the likes of West Indies and New Zealand also continue to slip, we can get them replaced, and like the BullyBoy Club want, we can have an India Australia tour every 3rd month, and Ashes doubleheaders every 6 months.

actually WI would be happy to be relieved of test cricket also

The West Indies have been godawful for much of the last 15 years. They keep winning a game here and another one there in between absolutely horrendous performances. Stella, did you watch Sachin Tendulkar's farewell series? Yet no one want them kicked out.

msp83 wrote:The West Indies have been godawful for much of the last 15 years. They keep winning a game here and another one there in between absolutely horrendous performances. Stella, did you watch Sachin Tendulkar's farewell series? Yet no one want them kicked out.

The windies have history, and deserve more slack than a team that's never been any good. All teams slump, but the difference is, not for 14 years.

their test status will be revoked....it's going to be 8 teams in a 2 tier comp.

Stella wrote:

msp83 wrote:The West Indies have been godawful for much of the last 15 years. They keep winning a game here and another one there in between absolutely horrendous performances. Stella, did you watch Sachin Tendulkar's farewell series? Yet no one want them kicked out.

The windies have history, and deserve more slack than a team that's never been any good. All teams slump, but the difference is, not for 14 years.

The West Indies put together one of the greatest ever sides in the cricket world in the 1980s and not in the 1930s. History cannot be created in a vacuum. The West Indies became a poor side by the end of the 1990s, and for the last 15 years or so, for a side with the kind of history that they have, they have been pathetic.

msp83 wrote:

Stella wrote:

msp83 wrote:The West Indies have been godawful for much of the last 15 years. They keep winning a game here and another one there in between absolutely horrendous performances. Stella, did you watch Sachin Tendulkar's farewell series? Yet no one want them kicked out.

The windies have history, and deserve more slack than a team that's never been any good. All teams slump, but the difference is, not for 14 years.

The West Indies put together one of the greatest ever sides in the cricket world in the 1980s and not in the 1930s. History cannot be created in a vacuum. The West Indies became a poor side by the end of the 1990s, and for the last 15 years or so, for a side with the kind of history that they have, they have been pathetic.

Think they were credible in the early years, thanks mainly to Headley.

CF wrote:their test status will be revoked....it's going to be 8 teams in a 2 tier comp.

That particular clause has been dropped from the proposal, there won't be any relegation.......

Stella wrote:

msp83 wrote:

Stella wrote:

msp83 wrote:The West Indies have been godawful for much of the last 15 years. They keep winning a game here and another one there in between absolutely horrendous performances. Stella, did you watch Sachin Tendulkar's farewell series? Yet no one want them kicked out.

The windies have history, and deserve more slack than a team that's never been any good. All teams slump, but the difference is, not for 14 years.

The West Indies put together one of the greatest ever sides in the cricket world in the 1980s and not in the 1930s. History cannot be created in a vacuum. The West Indies became a poor side by the end of the 1990s, and for the last 15 years or so, for a side with the kind of history that they have, they have been pathetic.

Think they were credible in the early years, thanks mainly to Headley.

England and Australia hardly played against the West Indies with their full sides in the initial period. Even then, it took them some time to get going in test cricket. As I mentioned above, it took NZ a good 26 years to win a test match, and in between they had horrendous low points such as getting bowled out for 26.

msp83 wrote:

Stella wrote:

msp83 wrote:

Stella wrote:

msp83 wrote:The West Indies have been godawful for much of the last 15 years. They keep winning a game here and another one there in between absolutely horrendous performances. Stella, did you watch Sachin Tendulkar's farewell series? Yet no one want them kicked out.

The windies have history, and deserve more slack than a team that's never been any good. All teams slump, but the difference is, not for 14 years.

The West Indies put together one of the greatest ever sides in the cricket world in the 1980s and not in the 1930s. History cannot be created in a vacuum. The West Indies became a poor side by the end of the 1990s, and for the last 15 years or so, for a side with the kind of history that they have, they have been pathetic.

Think they were credible in the early years, thanks mainly to Headley.

England and Australia hardly played against the West Indies with their full sides in the initial period. Even then, it took them some time to get going in test cricket. As I mentioned above, it took NZ a good 26 years to win a test match, and in between they had horrendous low points such as getting bowled out for 26.

test cricket needed more sides in the 30's though, and arguably when NZ came along. For me, we now need less, considering all the 20/20 and ODI matches going on.

I have to totally disagree there. If test cricket has to survive, then it has to reach out to more countries and not less. Already the majority of the ICC 'Full Members' are not finding tests financially sound. They won't be able to survive too much on the doles from the Big Boys for too long. But if test cricket reaches out to more countries, there would be more scope for ad revenue and stuff and people would also think of more creative ideas of marketing it.
I hope the likes of Ireland and Afghanistan are also allowed to play test cricket. They may not do all that well against the big sides regularly, so their FTP should be designed in such a way that they have regular exposure to test cricket with more games being played among sides that are ranked lower in the ranking table with a few games in between against the big sides.

So essentially we are in favour of most of the things the new ICC agreement intends to achieve except for the revenue split?

test cricket should be played by everyone; why shouldn't it? Bangledesh get alot of stick but they are competitive from time-to-time.
I see Mr Clarke has such ideas for my beloved ireland! Ill see it when i believe tho, couldnt trust a word they cricket administrators say
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jan/29/england-ireland-test-cricket-associate-members-dubai?CMP=twt_gu