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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:33

Kick off is 8.30pm.

LEINSTER:

15: Zane Kirchner
14: Darragh Fanning
13: Fergus McFadden
12: Noel Reid
11: Luke Fitzgerald Sam Coughlan-Murray
10: Ian Madigan
9: Eoin Reddan
1: Jack McGrath
2: Sean Cronin
3: Martin Moore
4: Leo Cullen (Captain)
5: Mike McCarthy
6: Rhys Ruddock
7: Shane Jennings
8: Jordi Murphy

REPLACEMENTS:
16: Richardt Strauss
17: Michael Bent
18: Mike Ross
19: Tom Denton
20: Dominic Ryan
21: Isaac Boss
22: Jimmy Gopperth
23: Darren Hudson


GLASGOW:

15. Peter Murchie
14. Tommy Seymour
13. Richie Vernon
12. Finn Russell
11. Niko Matawalu
10. Ruaridh Jackson
9. Chris Cusiter (Captain)

1. Gordon Reid
2. Pat MacArthur
3. Mike Cusack
4. Tim Swinson
5. Jonny Gray
6. James Eddie
7. Rob Harley
8. Josh Strauss

REPLACEMENTS

16. Fraser Brown
17. Jerry Yanuyanutawa
18. Ed Kalman
19. Leone Nakarawa
20. Tyrone Holmes
21. Henry Pyrgos
22. Mark Bennett
23. Lee Jones


At RDS, Dublin, 8.30pm. Live on TG4/BBC ALBA
Referee: Nigel Owens (WRU, 105th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Stuart Gafikin, Richard Kerr (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner: Peter Ferguson (IRFU)
TMO: Alan Rogan (IRFU)


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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:34

Watch live in the UK here;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tv/bbcalba/live
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Post by VinceWLB Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:38

Way to easy here but what was that clearance kick right after that turnover?

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:41

VinceWLB wrote:Way to easy here but what was that clearance kick right after that turnover?

A pile of Poopie

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:42

Matawalu under the high balls is like a fish out of water  Rolling Eyes 

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:43

Great break from Jackson  Shocked 

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:44

RICHIE VERNON

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Post by KiaRose Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:44

Well, 7-7. Defence?

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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:45

I'm coming around to this idea of Richie Vernon as a centre. He's been very good whenever I've seen him.
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Post by cakeordeath Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:47

We are seeing the best and worst of Jackson, It's like someone is flicking a switch

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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:50

Leinster vs Glasgow is always such a good game, tonight looks like no exception.
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Post by cakeordeath Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:50

Not sure I agree with that, but as long as Nigel is consistent.

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Post by perthshirepuma Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:51

Any news on what happened for Fitzgerald not starting? Only switched over from the Scarlets v Munster game just before KO - and I don't speak Gaelic!

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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:55

White Line Fever! Just draw the man and give it to Matawalu- how on earth did they blow that!
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Post by cakeordeath Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:55

cakeordeath wrote:RICHIE VERNON

 Yahoo 

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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:56

At least they got it in the end...
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Post by VinceWLB Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:57

Vernon really looking like the real deal at 13!

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Post by IanBru Sat 01 Mar 2014, 20:57

That Vernon chap is rather good at this centre lark.

Someone should have suggested the move sooner... Very Happy
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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:00

perthshirepuma wrote:Any news on what happened for Fitzgerald not starting? Only switched over from the Scarlets v Munster game just before KO - and I don't speak Gaelic!

Dunno, Leinster twitter account didn't give a reason. Sam Coughlan-Murray is in.
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Post by cakeordeath Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:05

Quite happy with how Glasgow are playing, I still think Leinster are too strong for us. If we come away with a point from this game I will be happy

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:06

Come on our game is becoming soft

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:08

I hate that Poopie, the Leinster player hit him deliberately

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Post by GLove39 Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:09

Disappointed Nigel fell for that one. If Niko wasn't there the pass would have gone to no one.

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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:12

But he was standing in an offside position. Well played for by Reddan- if Matawalu is working hard to be onside, he can't play for it and Owens can't give it. It's Matawalus fault.
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Post by cakeordeath Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:14

Notch wrote:But he was standing in an offside position. Well played for by Reddan- if Matawalu is working hard to be onside, he can't play for it and Owens can't give it. It's Matawalus fault.

Not don't agree, it's the rubgy equivalent of a dive.

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:14

What was Matawalu thinking here?

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:15

cakeordeath wrote:
Notch wrote:But he was standing in an offside position. Well played for by Reddan- if Matawalu is working hard to be onside, he can't play for it and Owens can't give it. It's Matawalus fault.

Not don't agree, it's the rubgy equivalent  of a dive.

Agreed, it's against the spirit of the game.

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Post by TJ Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:16

IanBru wrote:That Vernon chap is rather good at this centre lark.

Someone should have suggested the move sooner... Very Happy
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Post by perthshirepuma Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:16

Leinster lineout misfiring, scrum bit more even. Try! Gangly ginger kid on the wing.

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:17

Could Russell be the kicker Glasgow need? i certainly hope so.

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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:19

cakeordeath wrote:
Notch wrote:But he was standing in an offside position. Well played for by Reddan- if Matawalu is working hard to be onside, he can't play for it and Owens can't give it. It's Matawalus fault.

Not don't agree, it's the rubgy equivalent  of a dive.

A dive is an attempt to con the ref when an opponent has done nothing wrong. This is bringing the referees attention to a player who is doing something wrong.
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Post by cakeordeath Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:20

Notch wrote:
cakeordeath wrote:
Notch wrote:But he was standing in an offside position. Well played for by Reddan- if Matawalu is working hard to be onside, he can't play for it and Owens can't give it. It's Matawalus fault.

Not don't agree, it's the rubgy equivalent  of a dive.

A dive is an attempt to con the ref when an opponent has done nothing wrong. This is bringing the referees attention to a player who is doing something wrong.

Nope, most dives come from the lightest of contacts in an attempt to make the ref think that is was worse than it was. Which is why I compared it to a dive.

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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:23

But if Matawalu isn't offside then it can't happen. Just putting your hands up doesn't make it legal to run a lazy line with the intention of blocking the view of the opposition scrum-half. It's a very clear cut penalty for that.
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Post by cakeordeath Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:25

Notch wrote:Right, but if Matawalu isn't offside then it can't happen. Just putting your hands up doesn't make it legal to run a lazy line with the intention of blocking the view of the opposition scrum-half.

Yes, I am not denying he was off-side, but he threw it into him deliberately, if it hadn't hit him it would have went to no one, so who was he passing to. Milking a penalty

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:26

It's comparable to a dive in a way that you can avoid it and actually play the game.

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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:26

So what do you do? You have to give the penalty wherever the scrum-half throws the ball. It's not against the rules to throw a poor pass.
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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:27

Even if play continues and the 9 avoids the lazy runner the referee really should be playing a penalty advantage in any event.
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Post by cakeordeath Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:27

Notch wrote:So what do you do? You have to give the penalty wherever the scrum-half throws the ball. It's not against the rules to throw a poor pass.

I don't think it was a poor pass it was a very well aimed pass straight into Niko.

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Post by TJ Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:28

Daft of Niko to be there - Tedious and cynical play to deliberately throw the ball into him. He was not blocking a pass to a Leinster player

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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:30

But how can you penalise a 9 for that when the lazy runner is committing a blatant penalty offence? After all, in this case Matawalu is making no effort to get back onside.

If Reddan plays around him it's a penalty advantage, if play breaks down it's a penalty. Do you warn Reddan? For what rule? Ungentlemanly conduct?
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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:30

You'll see more cynical play at any scrum or breakdown than that.
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Post by cakeordeath Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:37

Notch wrote:You'll see more cynical play at any scrum or breakdown than that.

So B is worse than A, therefore A is ok. Not sure about that logic.

Anyway as much as i want to spend my Saturday night on the internet, we are going round in circles. I am going to concentrate on the rest of the game.

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Post by GLove39 Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:39

Notch wrote:You'll see more cynical play at any scrum or breakdown than that.
Yes, but then Leinster do excel when it comes to living on the edge...  Wink 

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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:40

Oh absolutely. But thats a good thing. You have to be smart about how you play the ref in this game, but I don't know if you can call this living on the edge- Matawalu is the only guy who's doing anything against the laws.
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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:42

Hah! Thought they weren't going to give that for a minute. Crazy TMOs in the Pro12 tonight. Good try.
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Post by GLove39 Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:49

At times I can't tell if I'm watching UFC or rugby. The rucks are ferocious!

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:51

GLove39 wrote:At times I can't tell if I'm watching UFC or rugby. The rucks are ferocious!

Yep, like the game before too, this is quite an intense one.

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Post by Notch Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:56

VinceWLB wrote:
GLove39 wrote:At times I can't tell if I'm watching UFC or rugby. The rucks are ferocious!

Yep, like the game before too, this is quite an intense one.

These two games have been brilliant. Really high quality.
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Post by VinceWLB Sat 01 Mar 2014, 21:59

Interesting to see what Nakarawa can do at 8, not the best of start though.

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Post by Argybargy Sat 01 Mar 2014, 22:02

Cant see this as living outside of the UK and they just cut off my ALBA - sounds a cracker - how long to go?

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