Brown takes the award - six nations player of the tournament

Brown, who scored four tries, beat 25 defenders and gained 543 metres for the English cause, received 34% of the public’s 68,000 votes. The rest of the top five was rounded out by Irish players with O’Driscoll [28%] and Trimble [10%] followed by Jonny Sexton and Rob Kearney. David Denton of Scotland was sixth while Danny Care of England was seventh.

Well done, great tournament.

Obviously a lot of Irish voters.....

GeordieFalcon wrote:Obviously a lot of Irish voters.....

No Brown probably deserved it. Not a charity vote really.

Aw yeah, fair play. From an Irish PoV we lost the vote because we didn't unite behind one candidate.

Of the votes I cast I voted for Trimble the most times, with several votes for BOD and Sexton as well, but even in doing so I definitely agree that Mike Brown was the best player this year.

Notch wrote:
Of the votes I cast I voted for Trimble the most times, with several votes for BOD and Sexton as well,

Isnt it one man one vote?

Wonder if 28% of the votes were made by Gatland?


Bit ridiculous that it was even vaguely close, he was clearly head and shoulders the most effective attacking player in the tournament and more than solid in other aspects too. First time I can remember that theres been a clear non controversial or just " he scored the most tries" winner.

To win 3 MOM awards in 5 games is some going, especially when your side lost one of those matches.

Nah man, it was a free for all. I was hoping someone else would get the award just so it could be illustrated what a farce the public voting system actually is.

They should have just given it to Mike Brown.

If it hadn't been his last year then BOD wouldn't even have been mentioned. Ridiculous that he's got 28%. Sexton and Trimble had much better tournaments.

Happy for Brown. Deserves it after his performances and a lot of unfair criticism, particularly last year.

thomh wrote:If it hadn't been his last year then BOD wouldn't even have been mentioned. Ridiculous that he's got 28%. Sexton and Trimble had much better tournaments.

Happy for Brown. Deserves it after his performances and a lot of unfair criticism, particularly last year.

All the stats suggest that you are wrong.

Yeah the public vote thing is exposed here, nearly 40% of votes went to Irish players ... had "your lot" got their act together and all voted multiple times you couldve put Brown 4th or lower

I think of all the dissapointments in BODs career not wining MOS will not be the one he wakes up crying about at night in his eighties. He ended by holding the cup, I think thats a fine way to go out.

What stats? Apart from one half at home to Italy, I didn't see him do a huge amount. Certainly didn't play as well as Burrell throughout the tournament for example, and Sexton's performance vs Wales was on another level from anything BOD did. Same for O'Mahony actually.

Congrats, Mike Brown

If he keeps this up he could be up for a few more accolades in 2014.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Yeah the public vote thing is exposed here, nearly 40% of votes went to Irish players ... had "your lot" got their act together and all voted multiple times you couldve put Brown 4th or lower

If it helps, in the poll that really matters I voted for Mike Brown, once, and didn't vote for anyone else.

https://www.606v2.com/t52661-official-rbs-player-of-the-championship

Mike Brown thought he was happy when he heard about the official award... wait until he hears about the 606v2 vote!

Cyril wrote:Congrats, Mike Brown

If he keeps this up he could be up for a few more accolades in 2014.

Yes, lets not forget he has also won a Triple Crown.

Scratch wrote:

Cyril wrote:Congrats, Mike Brown

If he keeps this up he could be up for a few more accolades in 2014.

Yes, lets not forget he has also won a Triple Crown.

Yep  

thomh wrote:What stats? Apart from one half at home to Italy, I didn't see him do a huge amount. Certainly didn't play as well as Burrell throughout the tournament for example, and Sexton's performance vs Wales was on another level from anything BOD did. Same for O'Mahony actually.

Feel your pain.  

BOD is on 6Ns own official team of the tournament based on their stats...not Burrell.

There should have been a Rotten Tomatoes Player of the Tournament Award running in tandem with the real one, given the number of people who want to fixate on BOD and land one right in his eye.

SecretFly wrote:

thomh wrote:What stats? Apart from one half at home to Italy, I didn't see him do a huge amount. Certainly didn't play as well as Burrell throughout the tournament for example, and Sexton's performance vs Wales was on another level from anything BOD did. Same for O'Mahony actually.

Feel your pain.  

BOD is on 6Ns own official team of the tournament based on their stats...not Burrell.

There should have been a Rotten Tomatoes Player of the Tournament Award running in tandem with the real one, given the number of people who want to fixate on BOD and land one right in his eye.

          

Stick that in yer fruit salad!

Congratulations to Brown btw. You couldn't miss him ...or I mean, many players did

Good choice and an exciting player to watch

Notch wrote:

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Yeah the public vote thing is exposed here, nearly 40% of votes went to Irish players ... had "your lot" got their act together and all voted multiple times you couldve put Brown 4th or lower

If it helps, in the poll that really matters I voted for Mike Brown, once, and didn't vote for anyone else.

https://www.606v2.com/t52661-official-rbs-player-of-the-championship

Mike Brown thought he was happy when he heard about the official award... wait until he hears about the 606v2 vote!

I voted for warbutton on that one to try and make the welsh look bad   

thomh wrote:What stats? Apart from one half at home to Italy, I didn't see him do a huge amount. Certainly didn't play as well as Burrell throughout the tournament for example, and Sexton's performance vs Wales was on another level from anything BOD did. Same for O'Mahony actually.

RBS six nations nominations are based on stats. Accenture have a completely different statistical analysis and they also had him as one of the players of the tournament. I reckon some people were just dying for O'Driscoll to have a poor tournament.

The reality was he didnt, he outshone his opposite number in every game he played and was outstanding. Bitter pill to swallow clearly for some.

Accenture were the ones which did the nominations as well. Obviously including social media responses in the equation. Would be really interesting to see the full list of all the players and the stats involved. Know you have a chip on your shoulder over my thoughts on the bias showed to BOD Guns but in reality we don't know the full reasons over the nominations just a general over view of what was being included in them.

GunsGerms wrote:

thomh wrote:What stats? Apart from one half at home to Italy, I didn't see him do a huge amount. Certainly didn't play as well as Burrell throughout the tournament for example, and Sexton's performance vs Wales was on another level from anything BOD did. Same for O'Mahony actually.

RBS six nations nominations are based on stats. Accenture have a completely different statistical analysis and they also had him as one of the players of the tournament. I reckon some people were just dying for O'Driscoll to have a poor tournament.

The reality was he didnt, he outshone his opposite number in every game he played and was outstanding. Bitter pill to swallow clearly for some.

blimey, is BOD your dad or something?

Everyone respects him, but how your going around this broad shouting how good BOD was all tournament and labelling anyone who disagree's as "sore losers" or "sour" is just embarrassing!

Mike Brown was the right choice for me. He really has hit superb form, and has really maximised his abilities.

I thought BOD had a decent tournament, tricky to pick Ireland's MVP though. Rob Kearney was superb, as was POM. It was really a team effort through and through.

There was no other player in contention for me, Brown all the way.

GunsGerms wrote:

thomh wrote:What stats? Apart from one half at home to Italy, I didn't see him do a huge amount. Certainly didn't play as well as Burrell throughout the tournament for example, and Sexton's performance vs Wales was on another level from anything BOD did. Same for O'Mahony actually.

RBS six nations nominations are based on stats. Accenture have a completely different statistical analysis and they also had him as one of the players of the tournament. I reckon some people were just dying for O'Driscoll to have a poor tournament.

The reality was he didnt, he outshone his opposite number in every game he played and was outstanding. Bitter pill to swallow clearly for some.

Funnily enough I think there's an argument that Bastereud (who was rank awful for most of the tournament) was the better 13 in that last match, despite his pass drifting forwards. I think he caused D'Arcy and BOD some real problems in that game.

I'm not arguing that BOD didn't have a strong tournament, just that I wouldn't go as far as to say he "outshone" Bastereud in that last match.

Fairly predictable Hysterical media led over reaction. I do wish people would learn to think for themselves and analyse the game a bit more thoroughly.

Notch wrote:Aw yeah, fair play. From an Irish PoV we lost the vote because we didn't unite behind one candidate.

Of the votes I cast I voted for Trimble the most times, with several votes for BOD and Sexton as well, but even in doing so I definitely agree that Mike Brown was the best player this year.

Lost the vote implies that in some way the team with the best player get a prize. Surely the aim of the vote is to pick the best candidate (managed, though closer than expected) rather than to try and "win it" for your country?

ChequeredJersey wrote:

Notch wrote:Aw yeah, fair play. From an Irish PoV we lost the vote because we didn't unite behind one candidate.

Of the votes I cast I voted for Trimble the most times, with several votes for BOD and Sexton as well, but even in doing so I definitely agree that Mike Brown was the best player this year.

Lost the vote implies that in some way the team with the best player get a prize. Surely the aim of the vote is to pick the best candidate (managed, though closer than expected) rather than to try and "win it" for your country?

For me the object was to show how stupid it is to have an open vote where any one person can vote as many times as they like instead of just giving the award to the best player 

Some people can't just put Country bias to one side and appreciate good players or good teams etc.

Brown was head and shoulders the best player this year, Ireland overall were the best team but it was close between them and England.

GunsGerms wrote:

thomh wrote:What stats? Apart from one half at home to Italy, I didn't see him do a huge amount. Certainly didn't play as well as Burrell throughout the tournament for example, and Sexton's performance vs Wales was on another level from anything BOD did. Same for O'Mahony actually.

RBS six nations nominations are based on stats. Accenture have a completely different statistical analysis and they also had him as one of the players of the tournament. I reckon some people were just dying for O'Driscoll to have a poor tournament.

The reality was he didnt, he outshone his opposite number in every game he played and was outstanding. Bitter pill to swallow clearly for some.

Did he outshine Burrell, too? I must have missed that. Edged, possibly, though I'd dispute it


He would be behind Toner, POC, Healy, Ross, Trimble, POM and Sexton for me based on this tournament alone. Which isn't to say he had a bad tournament as those others were very good indeed. But the 28% is based on sentiment.

If Brown hadn't won the award I'd have been furious and I'm Irish. He is a grade1 class act, could walk onto any international side in the world.

Notch wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:

Notch wrote:Aw yeah, fair play. From an Irish PoV we lost the vote because we didn't unite behind one candidate.

Of the votes I cast I voted for Trimble the most times, with several votes for BOD and Sexton as well, but even in doing so I definitely agree that Mike Brown was the best player this year.

Lost the vote implies that in some way the team with the best player get a prize. Surely the aim of the vote is to pick the best candidate (managed, though closer than expected) rather than to try and "win it" for your country?

For me the object was to show how stupid it is to have an open vote where any one person can vote as many times as they like instead of just giving the award to the best player 

That is true. I don't see why the public get a say. Though any way of doing it is flawed, as we see with World player of the year etc.

Best system; all the players vote, you can't vote for a teammate. You must pick a player (or players) from opposition teams. That is how the Pro12 Player of the Season etc. is picked.

Notch wrote:Best system; all the players vote, you can't vote for a teammate. You must pick a player (or players) from opposition teams. That is how the Pro12 Player of the Season etc. is picked.

And Aviva too. It's a good system. Could just have players' player, coaches' player, Critics' player and if need be a fans' player too

ChequeredJersey wrote:

Notch wrote:Aw yeah, fair play. From an Irish PoV we lost the vote because we didn't unite behind one candidate.

Of the votes I cast I voted for Trimble the most times, with several votes for BOD and Sexton as well, but even in doing so I definitely agree that Mike Brown was the best player this year.

Lost the vote implies that in some way the team with the best player get a prize. Surely the aim of the vote is to pick the best candidate (managed, though closer than expected) rather than to try and "win it" for your country?

Possibly Chequered.... but that's purist stuff again and I just keep pointing out that purist ideals don't work in a voting system.  People vote both with their head, their heart and often their national colours draped around them too - not always but often.  

People here admitted they multi-voted.  Is that doable?  I don't vote in these things so I'm not sure.  Multi-voting though, if possible, is a lack of faith in the system and therefore loading the system so as to make sure the candidate you want gets the gong.  Hardly scientific ideals for picking a 'best' player.

I remember one year, didn't Bowe get it?  And I seem to remember people had a massive social network campaign for him.......mostly led by women who wanted to sleep with him   So, there you go.  Purity goes out the window when lust is involved.

Hmm, I may have repeated stuff........... apologies if so.

Mike browns approval rating in this competition is possibly comparable in accuracy to Vladimir putin's in the recent Crimean poll; I'd say.

GloriousEmpire wrote:Mike browns approval rating in this competition is possibly comparable in accuracy to Vladimir putin's in the recent Crimean poll; I'd say.

That's in rather poor taste (as usual). Classy  

ChequeredJersey wrote:

Notch wrote:Best system; all the players vote, you can't vote for a teammate. You must pick a player (or players) from opposition teams. That is how the Pro12 Player of the Season etc. is picked.

And Aviva too. It's a good system. Could just have players' player, coaches' player, Critics' player and if need be a fans' player too

Yeah but it would be far too tempting to take the urine, like France picking Alex Goode or something.

GunsGerms wrote:

thomh wrote:What stats? Apart from one half at home to Italy, I didn't see him do a huge amount. Certainly didn't play as well as Burrell throughout the tournament for example, and Sexton's performance vs Wales was on another level from anything BOD did. Same for O'Mahony actually.

RBS six nations nominations are based on stats. Accenture have a completely different statistical analysis and they also had him as one of the players of the tournament. I reckon some people were just dying for O'Driscoll to have a poor tournament.

The reality was he didnt, he outshone his opposite number in every game he played and was outstanding. Bitter pill to swallow clearly for some.

He had a good tournament but to say he outshone Burrell is just ridiculous.

They'd hopefully treat it with respect.

Am I the only one who recognises the nominations are just all MoM winners throughout the tournament? Seemed fairly obvious to me.

Mike brown v Israel folau world cup 2015. Buying my tickets this summer.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:

Notch wrote:Best system; all the players vote, you can't vote for a teammate. You must pick a player (or players) from opposition teams. That is how the Pro12 Player of the Season etc. is picked.

And Aviva too. It's a good system. Could just have players' player, coaches' player, Critics' player and if need be a fans' player too

Yeah but it would be far too tempting to take the urine, like France picking Alex Goode or something.

It couldn't be more tempting to take the urine than the current system! Which I say as the urine taker in chief.

Mike Brown certainly the right man for the award to be honest.

I really could not see how it could of gone to any other player.

Well played to Mike Brown.

Happy for Brown, he clearly stood out, it would have been a farce if BOD won and would only cheapen it as a sympathy award

Well done Mike Brown. Played consistently at a high level. Close runners up were Danny Care, Owen Farrell and Chris Robshaw.

englandglory4ever wrote:Well done Mike Brown. Played consistently at a high level. Close runners up were Danny Care, Owen Farrell and Chris Robshaw.

You forgot Fran Cotton and Bill Beaumont.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Wonder if 28% of the votes were made by Gatland?


Bit ridiculous that it was even vaguely close, he was clearly head and shoulders the most effective attacking player in the tournament and more than solid in other aspects too. First time I can remember that theres been a clear non controversial or just " he scored the most tries" winner.

To win 3 MOM awards in 5 games is some going, especially when your side lost one of those matches.

......and you were only runners up. Arrogance at its english best.

rainbow-warrior wrote:

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Wonder if 28% of the votes were made by Gatland?


Bit ridiculous that it was even vaguely close, he was clearly head and shoulders the most effective attacking player in the tournament and more than solid in other aspects too. First time I can remember that theres been a clear non controversial or just " he scored the most tries" winner.

To win 3 MOM awards in 5 games is some going, especially when your side lost one of those matches.

......and you were only runners up.  Arrogance at its english best.

I think you need to go over PSW's post but this time using logic

I think that rainbow-warrior is Bungle in camo dress