HC semi Sarries vs Clermont

by Scrumpy Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:00 pm

Well played Sarries, I didn't see that score line coming!

by Scrumpy Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:01 pm

Big call from Owens already penalty try to Sarries 14-3 up

by Nachos Jones Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:02 pm

Very strange call Scrumpy. Sarries playing very well though, Clermont look shocked.

by Guest Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:04 pm

Nigel Owens making a bad decision for once

by ME-109 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:05 pm

Two games in a row for Sarries where the ref is having a big influence on the game...

by Scrumpy Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:05 pm

This call from Owens was harsh, not Sarries fault though!

by HammerofThunor Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:07 pm

ME-109 wrote:Two games in a row for Sarries where the ref is having a big influence on the game...

Maybe they're not as biased against Saracens as 'neutral' viewers? Smile

by Nachos Jones Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:07 pm

In fairness to Owens, he called it as a decent catch attempt at first and it was the TMO that kept showing more replays which may have influenced Owens a little. Clermont looking more solid now.

by ME-109 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:09 pm

Cant understand why it isnt a yellow for Sarries now if that is the red zone...

by Nachos Jones Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:11 pm

Looks a fair try to me that, seen those given before many times.

by ME-109 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:11 pm

Now he checks for an obstruction but didnt check for the forward pass for Ashtons try....very strange from Nigel today.

by GLove39 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:11 pm

Another huge call from Owens in favour of Saracens

by Scrumpy Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:13 pm

Sarries name is on the cup this year!

by Cumbrian Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:13 pm

There was no forward pass and the block was clear as day...

by Nachos Jones Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:16 pm

Sarries have been pretty good but Clermont look to be settling now. Still, I hope Sarries win.

by Scrumpy Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:17 pm

I think no try was the right call, one of the centres blocked another Sarries player too.

by Nachos Jones Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:22 pm

Looks like a forward pass to Ashton there. Some lucky footwork by Farrell there.

by GLove39 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:23 pm

There is no justice in this game.

by Nachos Jones Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:24 pm

Try awarded...

I was certain the pass to Ashton was forward there and it was not even looked at.

Living a charmed life today are Sarries but they are worth their lead.

by Scrumpy Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:24 pm

Good clean try well played sarries

by Scrumpy Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:25 pm

Owens has got everything right so far

by beshocked Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:27 pm

No justice in this game? 3 tries to nil tells me who the better team have been so far and I am not even watching the game!

Sounds like some people just like to whine.

HammerofThunor no it's not me. I am otherwise engaged so cannot go to the game.

I would have made a match thread of my own in normal circumstances.

by neilthom7 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:29 pm

Can I just say that Farrell isn't terribly smart is he? my point in case being that just there Ashton made a great tackle on Sivivatu but Farrell just pushed the player too, as it was Sivivatu was almost already in touch so Owens let it go or didn't see it had it been further in field or been seen it would have been a penalty against. Saracens are doing so well here they don't need stupid stuff like that

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:29 pm

Sarries unreal so far. Brits, Ashton & Burger are having fantastic games.

by GLove39 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:30 pm

beshocked wrote:No justice in this game? 3 tries to nil tells me who the better team have been so far and I am not even watching the game!

Sounds like some people just like to whine.

HammerofThunor no it's not me. I am otherwise engaged so cannot go to the game.

I would have made a match thread of my own in normal circumstances.

Give us a wave beshocked Wink

Justice wise, fair play to Saracens for riding their luck & they have been the better side. But a lot of the calls that are going their way are highly debatable.
1st try gifted by Owens
Clermont try denied by Owens
3rd try TMO missed forward pass in the build up

All huge calls

by HammerofThunor Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:31 pm

beshocked wrote:No justice in this game? 3 tries to nil tells me who the better team have been so far and I am not even watching the game!

Sounds like some people just like to whine.

HammerofThunor no it's not me. I am otherwise engaged so cannot go to the game.

I would have made a match thread of my own in normal circumstances.

It's going well so far Beshocked. Hope your guys can keep on top. I missed bits, is Farrell a bit injured or something for Goode to be taking to kicks? Or are they going with him because he's been in the kicking zone?

by Guest Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:31 pm

GLove39 wrote:There is no justice in this game.

Doesn't mean there were wrong decisions made, though. You can't argue with any of them individually, but as they pile up they start to look unfair!

I think Clermont have been about par with Sarries , scoring aside. Surprised Saracens weren't a man down earlier when Clermont were pressing - 3 penalties in a row or something?

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:31 pm

neilthom7 wrote:Can I just say that Farrell isn't terribly smart is he? my point in case being that just there Ashton made a great tackle on Sivivatu but Farrell just pushed the player too, as it was Sivivatu was almost already in touch so Owens let it go or didn't see it had it been further in field or been seen it would have been a penalty against. Saracens are doing so well here they don't need stupid stuff like that

Farrell did nothing wrong there, he just helped guide Nalaga(not Sivivatu) into touch and then took the ball.

by Guest Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:32 pm

Personally the sky coverage is just annoying me. The match is good.

by Guest Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:33 pm

Yeah that wasn't forwards at all. Stream is now on mute btw - stfu Barnes.

by neilthom7 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:33 pm

Storming first half for Sarcens, Clermont are going to need a brilliant second half now can Sarries keep that intensity up though?

by Nachos Jones Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:36 pm

I have really the match myself. Sarries have not taken a back step at all and are in total control. I said after the 1/4 final against Leicester that Clermont can be beaten. Keep going Sarries.

by Cumbrian Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:36 pm

I don't know what 'isn't smart' about helping to bundle a very powerful and dangerous player into touch? Be daft not to make sure he went out, especially given how pumped up Sarries are.

by Scrumpy Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:36 pm

Sarries have been the best team and are good value for their lead.

by ME-109 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:37 pm

Regardless of some of the dodgy decisions gifting Sarries scores the Clermont defensive coach should be sacked at halftime.

by beshocked Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:38 pm

Glove39

Fair enough if we are getting a bit of luck. Sounds like it but on the other hand it sounds like we are playing well too.

Just hope they can keep up the momentum. Clermont are a very good side. Can't give them an inch.

Oh and I am very pleased the ref is not the French man Alain Rolland.

HammerofThunor Farrell had two stinkers with the boot vs Ulster and Saints. Probably want to let Farrell focus on the playmaking/physical side.

by Scrumpy Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:38 pm

What's wrong with me I'm enjoying watching Sarries and willing them to win Erm

by HammerofThunor Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:39 pm

beshocked wrote:Glove39

Fair enough if we are getting a bit of luck. Sounds like it but on the other hand it sounds like we are playing well too.

Just hope they can keep up the momentum. Clermont are a very good side. Can't give them an inch.

Oh and I am very pleased the ref is not the French man Alain Rolland. He's Assistant Ref there isn't he?

HammerofThunor Farrell had two stinkers with the boot vs Ulster and Saints. Probably want to let Farrell focus on the playmaking/physical side. Makes sense, especially with Goode kicking so well when Farrell was with England

by ME-109 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:40 pm

beshocked wrote:Glove39

Fair enough if we are getting a bit of luck. Sounds like it but on the other hand it sounds like we are playing well too.

Just hope they can keep up the momentum. Clermont are a very good side. Can't give them an inch.

Oh and I am very pleased the ref is not the French man Alain Rolland.

HammerofThunor Farrell had two stinkers with the boot vs Ulster and Saints. Probably want to let Farrell focus on the playmaking/physical side.

Yeah I can see why...he might be less biased than Nige..

by neilthom7 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:44 pm

Cumbrian wrote:I don't know what 'isn't smart' about helping to bundle a very powerful and dangerous player into touch? Be daft not to make sure he went out, especially given how pumped up Sarries are.

Nothing isn't smart about that mate what wasn't smart was it was not a bundle it was just a shove and if you don't think it was I suggest you go view again because a bundle is when you stay in contact a shove is what Farrell did and it is stupid because it would have given away a penalty

by ME-109 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:45 pm

Will Greenwood making the comment that Farrell made the "most" of the crossing and that by throwing himself at Chouly he manufactured the penalty.....

by beshocked Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:46 pm

True HammerofThunor. Goode kicked everything vs Bath. Plus he's generally a decent place kicker. Have Sarries utilised Bosch yet? He has a monster boot.

Despite the healthy lead, no complacency here. Sarries must make sure they keep playing well.

Sarries lost focus vs Saints and almost opened the door.

by Rory_Gallagher Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:49 pm

18 tackles already in this game by Jacques Burger.. what a player he is.

by Cumbrian Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:50 pm

neilthom7 wrote:
Cumbrian wrote:I don't know what 'isn't smart' about helping to bundle a very powerful and dangerous player into touch? Be daft not to make sure he went out, especially given how pumped up Sarries are.

Nothing isn't smart about that mate what wasn't smart was it was not a bundle it was just a shove and if you don't think it was I suggest you go view again because a bundle is when you stay in contact a shove is what Farrell did and it is stupid because it would have given away a penalty

Can't honestly remember if it was a shove, but come on, players 'help' others in to touch like that all the time, I can't remember the last time somebody got penalised for it.

by neilthom7 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:51 pm

Burger has been everywhere and then some today for Saracens

by beshocked Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:51 pm

Me-109 it's quite funny you say Nigel Owens is being very biased towards us because some Sarries fans still question some of his reffing decisions when we lost to Munster in the 2007-8 semi.

Personally I think Owens is a good ref. sure he gets stuff wrong like all refs but I think he's generally good.

I think most of the anti-Sarries comments are because you want to see us lose, despite us actually having a smaller salary cap than Clermont.

by neilthom7 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:53 pm

I don't think Owens is being biased he has been pretty spot on so far I'd say although I don't think it should have been a penalty try but that's a matter of opinion really on whether you think a try would have been scored, he did think that so fair enough, while Farrell maybe milked the disallowed try it was still very clearly obstruction

by Feckless Rogue Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:57 pm

beshocked wrote:I think most of the anti-Sarries comments are because you want to see us lose

True. When Leinster are playing there's a constant stream of moaning from English posters about every little thing. Now it's perfectly normal for English people to want to see Leinster lose. It's natural and correct for them to hate seeing their neighbours win. But I do wish they'd keep the moaning down.

I really want to see Saracens lose by the way. Sorry. But it looks like they've already won anyway.

by Guest Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:58 pm

Yeah 10 minutes into this second half and Sarries clearly maintaining the better side, so fair play to them.

Just a bit bored with the score as a neutral Sad

by **LondonTiger** Sat 26 Apr 2014, 4:59 pm

Feckless Rogue wrote:True. When Leinster are playing there's a constant stream of moaning from English posters about every little thing. Now it's perfectly normal for English people to want to see Leinster lose. It's natural and correct for them to hate seeing their neighbours win. But I do wish they'd keep the moaning down.

sorry but you are making that up.

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