The Indian Wells Masters 1000 Thread

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Figured that masters 1000 events deserve their own threads and as such here is your place for all things Indian Wells.

[Henman Bill]

thanks Jahu

[Jahu]

Does Fed have the same gold lined shorts he had in Dubai?

For luck?

[Jahu]

Come on Fed, pack him to Miami, go go go

[summerblues]

Good luck, Roger.

[Jahu]

Fed choking, come on man, it's not Raonic on the other side.

Move it!!!

[Guest]

Crikey. Sky showing that a Federer BH in Dubai bounces nearly 70cm lower than IW and that the courts at IW play 40% slower than Dubai!!

get rid of these mud pits!

[Jahu]

DJoko breaks, deservedly.

Fed wake up.

[temporary21]

4-2 to Novak, hes won 18/24 baseline points
uh oh...

[summerblues]

Absolutely dominant from Nole so far.

[temporary21]

Hes serving at 60% 1st serve Roger, which is OK, but hes losing almost every point when it doesnt get a clean winner.

[temporary21]

Crikey. Sky showing that a Federer BH in Dubai bounces nearly 70cm lower than IW and that the courts at IW play 40% slower than Dubai!!

get rid of these mud pits!

Isnt Miami slower than this? Thats a little scary.

[Jahu]

Fed melting, no power, lots of shanks, UE galore, it's not a 5 setter, come on!!!!

[Jahu]

Points won between 5-9 shots, Fed 2, Djoko 11 !!!

[Incrediblexman]

Federer can't win in these conditions against Djokovic. He needs a fast court or for the weather to warm up.

[Jahu]

Fed like Andy yesterday, AWOL.

[Guest]

Crikey. Sky showing that a Federer BH in Dubai bounces nearly 70cm lower than IW and that the courts at IW play 40% slower than Dubai!!

get rid of these mud pits!

Isnt Miami slower than this? Thats a little scary.

Miami is painfully slow. Isn't Federer skipping Miami?

[temporary21]

I guess in the end we cant complain about conditions, Fed had the fast one in Dubai, and clay wont be any kinder. Hes gonna have to deal.

[Jahu]

Crikey. Sky showing that a Federer BH in Dubai bounces nearly 70cm lower than IW and that the courts at IW play 40% slower than Dubai!!

get rid of these mud pits!

Isnt Miami slower than this? Thats a little scary.

Miami is painfully slow. Isn't Federer skipping Miami?

Its not on his schedule officially on his page, but Marcus said he will?

[Guest]

I guess in the end we cant complain about conditions, Fed had the fast one in Dubai, and clay wont be any kinder. Hes gonna have to deal.

We can complain. The whole point is the lack of fast courts in comparison with slow courts. It's not to the benefit of Federer I want to see more fast courts, but for the rest of the field too.

[Incrediblexman]

I think we can complain when most of the outdoor hard courts are now of this sort of speed!

[bogbrush]

Djokovic playing great, really pretty much unbeatable on this kind of court.

[temporary21]

Its the same as Pete had to deal with, things slowing down and he had to be more aggressive/net suicidal for it. It would be fine if Miami was speedy, a slow hc is worthy of its place, sadly Miami is hilariously slow, which leads to the imbalance

[summerblues]

Brutal first set.  Nole playing very very solid, Roger not so much.  Roger will need to try to come to the net more, but it will be very hard to execute here.

[temporary21]

Then again lets not entirely blame the court. Federer isnt serving that great yet, and hes playing poorly, whilst Novak looks impregnable. This would be tough on a fast hc too.

[Jahu]

Someone bring Stan to the court quickly, or at least lend his FH/BH to Fed.

[Jahu]

Break him now.

[Jahu]

Yes yes yes go go go

[temporary21]

Chance to break, chance gone, Novak serving great right now.

[Jahu]

Total role swap from Dubai.

[Jahu]

Done and dusted here, what a disaster, Djoko just serving good, not that he is needing to be special.

[temporary21]

Break, brutal stuff. Fed not serving close to well enough.

[bogbrush]

I like that Federer is playing on the front foot, there's no point just arsing around at the back and waiting to lose. The score is emphatic but at least the points are explosive, this would be a good match at Cincinnati.

[Mad for Chelsea]

too many people blaming the court. Djokovic is winning because Federer's first serve percentage is too low, and Djokovic is destroying his second serve. Federer is also not returning well enough, missing far too many returns. Too good so far from Djokovic, sometimes you have to aknowledge that.

[Jahu]

Break will come for Fed...

[Guest]

Maybe a toilet one!

[Jahu]

COme onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Incrediblexman]

I think it's painfully obvious that it's more to do with the court. Federer can't get the required pace on all of his shots. His backhand is more of a liability and the net rushes are gonna get picked off more. He can't use his slice well here too.

[temporary21]

too many people blaming the court. Djokovic is winning because Federer's first serve percentage is too low, and Djokovic is destroying his second serve. Federer is also not returning well enough, missing far too many returns. Too good so far from Djokovic, sometimes you have to aknowledge that.

Agreed, this could be a varnish court and the scoreline would be the same right now. Feds beaten Novak at the FO, and Novaks a 2 time wimby winner, and beat him at basel. Court isnt a huge factor between them.

[bogbrush]

I see Petchey still trying the "Federer is better than ever" twaddle. For Gods sake, Novak is brilliant, there's no need for hyperbole every match.

[temporary21]

I cant say I can blame Feds performance on the court right now, its not causing him to shank or dump volleys.

[Jahu]

Maybe a toilet one!

Thats good too, whatever brings the break back.

[temporary21]

I see Petchey still trying the "Federer is better than ever" twaddle. For Gods sake, Novak is brilliant, there's no need for hyperbole every match.

but you dont undertand, this is Mark, "that might have just been the greatest point ever!!!!" Petchey, each match more climactic and epic than the last guaranteed!

[Jahu]

Get some rockets in.

[temporary21]

Novak holds from 15-40 with some great serving, and Roger completely missing.

[bogbrush]

too many people blaming the court. Djokovic is winning because Federer's first serve percentage is too low, and Djokovic is destroying his second serve. Federer is also not returning well enough, missing far too many returns. Too good so far from Djokovic, sometimes you have to aknowledge that.

Agreed, this could be a varnish court and the scoreline would be the same right now. Feds beaten Novak at the  FO, and Novaks a 2 time wimby winner, and beat him at basel. Court isnt a huge factor between them.

Sorry but that's nonsense. Aren't you watching heavy shots bouncing like sludge? Federer trying to over hit to get anything through?

Djokovic is playing great. On a faster court this would be very competitive.

[Jahu]

Fed playing same quality he did against Robredo at USO, out of ideas.

[bogbrush]

Fed playing same quality he did against Robredo at USO, out of ideas.

No, he's vastly better than that.

[temporary21]

Oh for sure it would be more competitive, but the court doesnt make roger miss a load of first serves, or return poorly. Novak isnt overhitting, in fact hes striking it very aggressively. Roger needs to look at how Novaks doing it, he cant always hope for a zippy court.

[Jahu]

Fed needs the break now, to get some mojo back.

Make it 3 sets at least, even if Djoko wins.

[Incrediblexman]

A higher more wilder bounce will cause shanks and not allow him to an effective slice into play. I think looking at the record lately and in the years to come the court is coming to be a factor. Wimby is pretty slow now anyway.

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