England's Young Fast Bowlers

Dernbach's selection to the England squad for the 2nd test at Lord's ahead of Shahzad or Onions just shows the embarassment of riches England have in the seam bowling department.Dont forget we still have Bresnan to come back from injury and Chris Woakes and James Harris are also waiting in the wings.

But I think its perhaps to distinguish between the "good" and the "very good".

So although we have so many young options in the Pace Department who are the ones that really stand out for you.Pick 4 to 5 bowlers and please order them.
Please Note that I am talking about only young bowlers over here.
By young I mean 25 years or less than that.

For me
The list is

1.Finn
2.Harris
3.Broad
4.Dernbach
5.Woakes


Obviously I am fully aware that the choice of bowlers would depend on conditions

i would have liked to see woakes or shahzad called up.

England win the ashes/cricketfan90(what do you prefer?)

mate woakes is injured and apparently shahzad isnt in good form.

cricketfan90 mate, btw i accepeted the friend request, i werent bothered about the comment yesterday, its a debate and so its good to hear people's points

but still i would like to know why did you pick rahim over dhoni?i personally hate the indian cricket team largely due to the arrogant indian posters on the old 606 but its impossible to leave dhoni out of a subcontinent ODI XI.

rahim is nowhere near as good as dhoni.

i no but i already had a captain, and plus the fact i think rahim is a good young cricketer, and i think he will be very good in years to come.

forget the captaincy.purely as a player dhoni is better than rahim isnt he?

yes, but i wanted rahim

but why?
i feel one must always pick the better cricketer.

it was to do with the balance of the side

1. Broad
2. Finn
3. Woakes
4. Shahzad
5. Dernbach

I think Broad and Finn will lead Englands attack in a few years time. With Woakes either 3rd Seamer or not in the side at all.

The young tall left armer Topley at Essex who is yet another tall 6ft 6 plus fast bowler, also look out for Adam Ball the left arm slingy fast bowler who I believe plays for Gloucestershire and also don't forget that Surrey's Stuart Meaker can only get faster and better as a bowler once he enters his prime years as bowler.

gboycottnut wrote:The young tall left armer Topley at Essex who is yet another tall 6ft 6 plus fast bowler, also look out for Adam Ball the left arm slingy fast bowler who I believe plays for Gloucestershire and also don't forget that Surrey's Stuart Meaker can only get faster and better as a bowler once he enters his prime years as bowler.

Would agree with Meaker ,England are lacking real pace at the moment. He could provide that.

Liam_Main wrote:

gboycottnut wrote:The young tall left armer Topley at Essex who is yet another tall 6ft 6 plus fast bowler, also look out for Adam Ball the left arm slingy fast bowler who I believe plays for Gloucestershire and also don't forget that Surrey's Stuart Meaker can only get faster and better as a bowler once he enters his prime years as bowler.

Would agree with Meaker ,England are lacking real pace at the moment. He could provide that.

It is slightly worrying that whilst England do have many tall seam type bowlers who are ready to play at a test level, there isn't any fast bowler who can provide the skiddish type of raw pace that someone like Darren Gough used to provide for England in the 1990's.

liam
I and most of my mates on the other forum CMS rate finn higher than broad.
btw how quick is topley?

cricketfan90

Balance of the side?how would picking dhoni instead of rahim affect the balance of the side negatively?in fact it will improve the balance of the side bcoz dhoni is a better batsman,better keeper and a batsman who can adapt to all kinds of situations.
when his side is in trouble he can dig in and build an innings.when his side has already posted a big score he can come in and start hitting straight away.
i am not too sure rahim can do that.he hasnt demonstrated it at international level.

gboycottnut wrote:

Liam_Main wrote:

gboycottnut wrote:The young tall left armer Topley at Essex who is yet another tall 6ft 6 plus fast bowler, also look out for Adam Ball the left arm slingy fast bowler who I believe plays for Gloucestershire and also don't forget that Surrey's Stuart Meaker can only get faster and better as a bowler once he enters his prime years as bowler.

Would agree with Meaker ,England are lacking real pace at the moment. He could provide that.

It is slightly worrying that whilst England do have many tall seam type bowlers who are ready to play at a test level, there isn't any fast bowler who can provide the skiddish type of raw pace that someone like Darren Gough used to provide for England in the 1990's.

Taking a look at Englands bowlers it is very worrying.

Broad- 83-90 MPH
Anderson 82-88 MPH
Tremlett-82-88 MPH
Finn-80-85 MPH
Dernbach- 80-85 MPH

look that is my side i explained my reasons u wanna make a better side go ahead

shankythebiggestengfan wrote:liam
I and most of my mates on the other forum CMS rate finn higher than broad.
btw how quick is topley?

cricketfan90

Balance of the side?how would picking dhoni instead of rahim affect the balance of the side negatively?in fact it will improve the balance of the side bcoz dhoni is a better batsman,better keeper and a batsman who can adapt to all kinds of situations.
when his side is in trouble he can dig in and build an innings.when his side has already posted a big score he can come in and start hitting straight away.
i am not too sure rahim can do that.he hasnt demonstrated it at international level.

No chance Shanky. Maybe in a few years yes but not right now. His line and length at times can be all over the place and he gives away too many runs at times. Little bit more consistency and he can become a terrific bowler.

Cricketfan90
mate plz dont get angry.i was merely asking you to state ur reason for picking rahim so that i can understand your viewpoint.
I will go for
SRT
Dilshan
Gambhir
Sanga
Dhoni
Mathews
Shakib
Ashwin
Gul
Zaheer
Ajmal

liam

I was talking Potential.
Imo Finn has more "Potential" than Broad.

Cricketfan90
mate plz dont get angry.i was merely asking you to state ur reason for picking rahim so that i can understand your viewpoint.
I will go for
SRT
Dilshan
Gambhir
Sanga
Dhoni
Mathews
Shakib
Ashwin
Gul
Zaheer
Ajmal

liam

I was talking Potential.
Imo Finn has more "Potential" than Broad.

im not getting angry mate i just saying.

shankythebiggestengfan wrote:Cricketfan90
mate plz dont get angry.i was merely asking you to state ur reason for picking rahim so that i can understand your viewpoint.
I will go for
SRT
Dilshan
Gambhir
Sanga
Dhoni
Mathews
Shakib
Ashwin
Gul
Zaheer
Ajmal

liam

I was talking Potential.
Imo Finn has more "Potential" than Broad.

Can't agree on that one...so far Finn hasn't been consistent enough. He could do with go backing to Middlesex,work on his length and take a few wickets.

i think Finn has a lot of potential, but i prefer broad to finn

He hasn't had enough first class games for my liking.

What about Toby Roland-Jones, as I watched a cb40 match last year where Bob willis was raving on about as the next big England prospect, but I havent seen anything from him yet.

Very sad to hear Dirtbag is in the squad. It's very unlikely he will play and I don't see him as someone who has an international career ahead of him.

I would much rather they selected a young promising bowler such as Adil Rashid to expose him to being in an England Squad.