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Post by George Carlin Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:23 am

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IRELAND v ARGENTINA

18 October 2015
KO: 13:00 BST (UTC+01)
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff

Live on [tbc]

Ref: Jerome Garcès (France)
ARs: Romain Poite (France)and Chris Pollock (NZ)
TMO: George Ayoub (Australia)

A. Head to Head

15 Played 15
10 Won 5
0 Drawn 0
5 Lost 15
331 Points 283

B. Recent Form

14 June 2014
Estadio Monumental José Fierro, Tucumán
17 – 23 to Ireland

7 June 2014
Estadio Centenario, Resistencia
17 – 29 to Ireland

24 November 2012
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
46 – 24 to Ireland

28 November 2010
Aviva Stadium, Dublin
29 – 9 to Ireland

22 November 2008
Croke Park, Dublin
17 – 3 to Ireland

30 September 2007
Parc des Princes, Paris, France
30 – 15 to Argentina

2 June 2007
Estadio José Amalfitani, Buenos Aires
16 – 0 to Argentina

C. TEAMS:

IRELAND
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15. Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster)
14. Tommy Bowe (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
13. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster)
12. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Connacht)
11. Dave Kearney (Lansdowne/Leinster)
10. Johnny Sexton (St Mary's College/Leinster)
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster)
1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster)
2. Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster)
3. Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster)
4. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster)
5. Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
6. Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
7. Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster)
8. Jamie Heaslip (Dublin University/Leinster) captain

Replacements;
16. Richardt Strauss (Old Wesley/Leinster)
17. Jack McGrath (St Mary's College/Leinster)
18. Nathan White (Connacht)
19. Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster)
20. Rhys Ruddock (St Mary's College/Leinster)
21. Eoin Reddan (Old Crescent/Leinster)
22. Ian Madigan (Blackrock/Leinster)
23. Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock/Leinster)

ARGENTINA
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15. Joaquin Tuculet
14. Santiago Cordero
13. Matías Moroni
12. Juan Martín Hernández
11. Juan Imhoff
10. Nicolás Sánchez
9. Martín Landajo
1. Marcos Ayerza
2. Agustín Creevy (c)
3. Ramiro Herrera
4. Guido Petti
5. Tomás Lavanini
6. Pablo Matera
7. Juan Martín Fernández Lobbe
8. Leonardo Senatore

Replacements:
16. Julián Montoya
17. Lucas Noguera
18. Juan Pablo Orlandi
19. Matías Alemanno
20. Facundo Isa
21. Tomás Cubelli
22. Jerónimo De La Fuente
23. Lucas González Amorosino


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Post by eirebilly Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:44 pm

Well played Henderson there, good attacking scrum position.
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Post by glamorganalun Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:45 pm

Not reffing the scrum to Ireland s advantage

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Post by JmD Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:45 pm

That ball has to go wide.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:48 pm

Ireland look so slow in attack.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:48 pm

glamorganalun wrote:Not reffing the scrum to Ireland s advantage

He's letting Ross get away with getting mullered and folding in at every scrum. Ross is going in and down to avoid going backwards. Ireland fortunate in that regard.

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Post by Notch Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:50 pm

Just gotta get 3 points before half-time, make it a one score game and we're hanging in there.
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Post by HammerofThunor Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:51 pm

I suppose this is one way to lose the 'favourite' tags the Irish hate so much. Have a poor start but stay within touch. Come out in the second half as underdogs and rip into them. Cunning.

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Post by eirebilly Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:53 pm

What an absolutely poor first half from Ireland. Schmidt has a lot of work to do here. Dave Kearney and Henry have not had very good games so far.
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:54 pm

This Argentina side are extremely dangerous.
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Post by Biltong Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:55 pm

glamorganalun wrote:Not reffing the scrum to Ireland s advantage
The Irish scrum has no scrum advantage
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Post by VinceWLB Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:55 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
glamorganalun wrote:Not reffing the scrum to Ireland s advantage

He's letting Ross get away with getting mullered and folding in at every scrum. Ross is going in and down to avoid going backwards. Ireland fortunate in that regard.

Agreed

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:56 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:I suppose this is one way to lose the 'favourite' tags the Irish hate so much. Have a poor start but stay within touch. Come out in the second half as underdogs and rip into them. Cunning.

If Carlsberg did world cup quarter finals Very Happy

Argentina set a blistering pace in the first 20 minutes, and tore us apart. Looks like that has taken it out of them though, with Ireland slowly edging into the game. Don't know if it will be enough though.


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Post by lostinwales Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:56 pm

Still not out of sight for Ireland, but its going to be tough. Good game for the neutral

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Post by majesticimperialman Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:58 pm

Before the game started i thought Ireland would be in the lead at half time, and not the other way around.

Ireland have a lot of work to do in the second half, to catch up and win try to the game.

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Post by VinceWLB Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:58 pm

That Argie 3 completely stopped Argentina's momentum..


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Post by TJ Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:58 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:What a start by the Argentinos. Is this difference playing regular games against decent opposition gives you?

Yup

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Post by TJ Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:00 pm

Notch wrote:We're narrow and we're passive. No line speed, allowing their inside backs to have loads of time to make decisions and pick their passes. No width in defence, leaving Argentina with 2 on 1s when they go wide.

A lethal combination. We need a score here.

I would say its more the sped of clearout and the speed of decision making / passing by the argentines that make it look slow

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Post by offload Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:01 pm

Ireland have given Argentina space, the most sought after thing in rugby. You can't stand off at this level and win.

Big next 10mins.
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Post by TJ Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:01 pm

Cracking first half - this is the sort of entertainment we need

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Post by George Carlin Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:04 pm

Just a polite word to Ireland - you cannot start very slowly, concede a bucketload of tries and then spend the rest of the game trying to claw it back.

That's OUR move. Braveheart
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:06 pm

COME ON IRELAND!

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Post by Pal Joey Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:07 pm

The quality of rugby has been pretty excellent this world cup. It's gone up another level in some games.

At the time when Herrera was off, thought Ireland would take a scrum in front of the posts rather than going for the 3 points. I just think they had them a little on the back foot at the time... needed a couple of more phases with the ball in hand to test them. 20-7 would have been a better result than 20-3. It was still around the 20 min mark only... with a large deficit to close.


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Post by Guest Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:07 pm

VinceWLB wrote:That Argie 3 completely stopped Argentina's momentum..

Yeah it was completely moronic and could be very costly. Still 10points ahead but I can see Ireland coming out strong.


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Post by BamBam Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:10 pm

Great from Henry

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Post by Notch Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:11 pm

Game on.
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Post by eirebilly Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:12 pm

Fitz has been immense.
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Post by BamBam Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:12 pm

Fitzgerald!!!! Yes Ireland

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:12 pm

YEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo

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Post by Fanster Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:13 pm

I said this had all the makings of a classic!!

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Post by RDW Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:13 pm

Game on!

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Post by kingraf Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:14 pm

So lazy from Argentina.
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Post by LondonTiger Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:16 pm

Love Ireland's cunning trick of packing down with a 4 man front row.

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Post by kingraf Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:18 pm

Thought I was imagining that.
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Post by offload Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:19 pm

Good comeback, but I still don't understand why Ireland are standing off? Giving the runners too much space and options.
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Post by glamorganalun Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:20 pm

Arg composure going

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Post by Notch Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:20 pm

If Herrera gets another yellow it's red.
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Post by Guest Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:20 pm

Well, it's over. What an idiot.

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Post by Notch Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:21 pm

What an idiot.
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Post by whocares Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:21 pm

Red card coming

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Post by glamorganalun Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:21 pm

There is nothing in that

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Post by eirebilly Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:22 pm

That is yellow, clear as day.
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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:22 pm

Very lucky.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:22 pm

Argentina need to hook #3
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Post by offload Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:22 pm

wrong decision
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Post by RDW Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:22 pm

Ref and TMO bottled it - would have been a yellow if he hadn't already had a yellow!

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Post by BamBam Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:22 pm

I reckon he would have got a yellow if he hadn't have done already

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:22 pm

Didn't look as bad on second viewing but it's a yellow for me.

If he hadn't already been binned there's no way he gets away without a yellow.

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Post by Notch Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:22 pm

Referee bottled it. If he wasn't already on a yellow, he would have DEFINITELY been sin binned. Garces has absolutely bottled it.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:22 pm

Poor decision from the ref, he's used an arm but it's on the wrong side.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:23 pm

Very lucky not to get another yellow at least.

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