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Im not sure they were meant to be bench keepers Nick.
Howard was deffo 1st choice, Taibi was meant to be 1st choice but was rubbish and I think ended up losing his place to minging Mark Bosnich? Who then in turn lost his place to Barthez. Foster was brought in with a view to replace VDS but couldn't take the pressure of playing for Man Utd. Maybe now he would but at the time he struggled.

1st fixture tomorrow, get your tactics in tomorrow yeah

That's not really true is it Nick.

Taibi, Bosnich, Howard and Carroll were all brought in as first choice keepers to replace Schmeichel and weren't good enough, so ended up getting dumped on the bench.

Of the rest, Foster and Kuszczak were bought to challenge/replace VDS and neither ended up being good enough.

Goram, Ricardo and van der Gouw I will grant you were bought as back-up. Better add Tony Coton to that list as well.

Can we have this discussion on the main page and not mine lol

Taibi - Was bought to contest the first team spot with Bosnich and VDG, none of the keepers had the "First team keeper" tag all were fighting for the spot.

Bosnich - More of a stop gap and not a replacement for Big Pete, only played for one season and for a kepper didn't make much appreances.

Howard - Agree should have been first team, had a decent first season but after that he was in and out of the team. No way you could call him our first team keeper.

Roy Caroll - had to fight for the first team, he was never proper first team keeper, he was also dropped a lot of times and his position as first team keeper was always in doubt.

So shut the hell up Afro and Smarts. ( I don't even know what this debate is about)

Viva you got the wrong end of the stick my son. Afro was pointing out a lot of them were brought in to be 1st choice GK, not saying they actually made it as 1st choice.

ready to post tactics whenever you are.

Taibi, Bosnich, Howard and Carroll were all brought in as first choice keepers
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Are you dumb Smarts? Read that, that to me says they were bought in as Man Utd first team keepers. :DOH:

No your dumb Viva. A lot dumber than me and I'm sorry for that. But being bought in to be 1st team GK's and actually making it and lasting as 1st team GK is not the same thing.

When SAF bought these keepers they had to battle it out between each other. If you look at Bosnich he didn't make as much apps as a keeper normally does, neither did Howard 32 apps most and Caroll too. Which means they were bought in with the POTENTIAL to become our first team keeper not bought in as numbers 1 stamped :DOH: They had competition against others, I don't know if you remember but SAF said VDG could become our first team keeper after Great Dane left.

But ok you know everything like you said Man Utd boy top top class players :LOL: fool

Actually I didn't say they buy top top class players when we originally had that discussion. I said I believed they would buy top class players this summer after being shown they were boys against men against Barcelona lol.
Barcelona v Man Utd = Men against boys
Martin Keown V Ruud Van Nistelrooy = Men against boys
Cesc Fabregas & a Pizza v Old Red Nose Fergie = Men against boys
Smartest v Viva = Men against girls

The question was how well SAF judged keepers. Not whether he bought good keepers suitable for a starting XI position straight away.

Your point that he bought them as potential number 1s and so many of them failed suggest he picking keepers isn't a strength.

Nick - just PM'd you. Would appreciate it if you could sort it asap.

In that time how many titles did Wenger win and Ferguson?

Arsenal V Man Utd = boys against men

Nick - just PM'd you. Would appreciate it if you could sort it asap.
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I wonder what you PM'ing Nick about ........ me??? lol

These keepers were all compared to Great Dane and Barthez was a good keeper.

Then what manager is picking great keepers time after time? Wenger? lol ALumunia, Lehmann, Fabianski and that other Polish one. Schezny

No. Not that it's any of your business, but it was about the homepage and some other pages.

Wenger isn't. Don;t forget Rami Shabaan.

Wojciech Szczęsny > DeGea :-P And cost about 1/20th of the price!

"In that time how many titles did Wenger win and Ferguson?"

Thats not how you compare managers Viva, you can only compare them on a level playing field. Same funds etc and on a level playing field Wenger would demolish Fergie on the next level mohahaha.

Oh how I would have loved to be there to see Fergies face when Pizza was trickling down his glasses and Fabregas was reeling off in delight hahaha I'm smiling so much thinking about it. Fergie was loving it nearly as much as I am

Would that so called great dane your referring to be the one who joined your main rivals Man City? Lol loyalty to the maximus!!!

Barthez knew where his loyalties lay when he set Henry up for a couple of goals when we played you lol that is what I call loyalty!

Interested in Dawson, Gotze, Barnetta, Van der Vaart and Van Wolfswinkel.

yo yo wosapnin nicky boy.

Coentrao = clichey + 5mill

Bale & Van Wolfswinkel
4
Hamsik & Nihat

?

Please make a bid I did mate but it involved Bale

calm down nicky boy no need to banning me from transfers with your team. Its what you call an opening bid. Ever heard of it.

A young + clichey + caroll + 10mill
=
Lennon + coentrao + benzema

yo nick you need to calm down and stop smoking spliffs. Tell me what you want for coentrao and benzema as i want some real madrid players in my team.
Try and find a deal ok bro.
And before you bite my head off.......
CALM DOWN!

Nadeem you will negotiate with Nick for a month then he will pull out of the deal!

Interested in Sandro and Bale

£12m for Gilardinho?

WEN I SED GEBHART AN SHAWCROSS OUT OF PLACE I MEANT THEY NOT GOOD ENOUGH IN THES TEAMS U FUK HEAD NOT THAT THEY PLAYED IN DIFF POSITION!!!!
AN I DIDN GIV U LOSS WEN U MISSED TACTICS WAT U LYING 4

Interested in Cambiasso

Possibly something involving Jovetic for Cambiasso?

How much for each of Sandro, Martinez and Wolfswinkel on loan?

Could arrange a future fee for permanent transfer too if you wish?

Nick I'm interested in Sandro on loan with a FF as well.

Definately interested in loaning two of them (Wolfswinkel + 1), but not sure whether to go for martinez or sandro yet. Probably depends on what happens with my Gago offer.

Would only look to loan van Wolfswinkel if I was assured of the second one too i.e. it's either both loans or no loans.

Sandro = £10M?
Everton

Enquiry

mertesacker = 10mill + friederic

nick_fury wrote:Sandro - £2.5m loan with FF to be agreed
Martinez - £2.5m loan with FF to be agreed
Only one of the above will be loaned at one time.
Wolfswinkel - £3m loan with FF of £12m.

Any loan player cannot play against the parent club.
If my squad if depleted due to injuries then I may call back any loaned player (wont happen as we only get two injuries and they las one week, just looks fancy in the agreement).
If I recieve a laywers offer more then the amount of a players value (which must be determined and agreed by us) then I am able to recall the player and do with what I wish.

Not going higher with my gago bid, so I am back to try and settle a deal with you. I would have liked Martinez on loan, but without Gago, Sandro is a bit more necessary.

How about:

Sandro - £2.5m loan with £9m FF (if and when I have funds)
Martinez - £2.5m loan with £10m FF (if and when I have funds)

If Cambiasso gets injured, you can recall Sandro for that weeks game. If Modric gets injured, you can recall Martinez for that weeks game. If both Modric and Cambiasso get injured, you get your choice of which to recall.

Wolfswinkel - £3m loan with FF of £12m


Any loan player cannot play against the parent club.
If you recieve a lawyers offer more then the amount of a players value (which must be determined and agreed by us) then you are able to recall the player and do with what you wish.

I think we are close to a deal then, although is it not a bit pointless agreeing a future fee if you have the option to not sell him?

The point of the FF is that you cannot turn around at the end of the season and say to me "no, I now want £20m for him or I won't sell", or he has performed well for me, so you decide you want to keep him.

Sandro - I will give you £10.5M right here right now

To clarify what I am saying is does that FF mean if you decide to sell, I get first refusal at the agreed price?

i.e.

Sandro - £2.5m loan with £9m FF (Sunderland get first refusal should Spurs decide to sell)
Martinez - £2.5m loan with £10m FF (Sunderland get first refusal should Spurs decide to sell)

If Cambiasso gets injured, you can recall Sandro for that weeks game. If Modric gets injured, you can recall Martinez for that weeks game. If both Modric and Cambiasso get injured, you get your choice of which to recall.


Wolfswinkel - £3m loan with FF of £12m

Any loan player cannot play against the parent club.
If you recieve a lawyers offer more then the amount of a players value (which must be determined and agreed by us) then you are able to recall the player and do with what you wish

I might leave it then.

I don't want to be loaning players if I cannot be sure to get them at the end of season.

I would be the one taking the chance on them improving and you would then get the benefit

tell me what you want for mertesacker nick. I want to partner him with hangeland and can offer 10mill + friederic.

the most i can offer you in money is 14mill. I Will add friederic who is valued at 5mill so all together you get 19mill.

above offer canceled as i offered way too much lol.
YOU tell me what you want for Pear Mertesacker.
Capiche¥

Luka Luka Modric £25M?

Enquiry

Tell you what, how about £4m combined loan for Sandro and Martinez, but with no FF and the same terms as before?

£30m = Benzema

No worries.

Thought you would jump at the chance of getting back what you overpaid on him.

No problem

Just winding you up. Felt like a bit of of Friday murking

But seriously it was slightly overpaid when you look at for a few million more you could get Aguero while I got Badman Darren Bent for a deal costing much less than £30M

That is true Smarts. Hadn't really thought about it, but I think I would have raised the extra £8m and bought Aguero (possibly the best striker in the league?).

Benzema cost more, but is no better than Bent, Suarez, Adebayor, Di Natale, Negredo, Gilardinho, Forlan

I got quoted £38m on Aguero, some Tinkywinky said it was his release fee so if he went for less Ill be peed !!!

Benzema is better then your face. howd your like them apples!!!

Bent - Good
Suarez - Meh, hot and cold, looks good but doesnt always delivery
Adebayor - Poopie Poopie Poopie, required 28 one on one chances to score 1 goal, cant hold his run, most offside player in the prem other season.
Di Natale - Meh, getting on, has only ever proved himself in the Serie A and only been since he joined Udinese.
Negredo - Yeah hes good, but didnt he get sold from the club that purchased Benzema?!
Gilardinho - Last seasons Furious League top goalscorer, when i got him everyone said he wasnt that good yet everyone gave him the goals. BADAMAN !!!
Forlan - Hes quality.
Aguero - Good, Young, farther in law is a man sausage fiend, but yer he could be the best striker in this league, could.

Id say top three in the l;eague, no order are: Gilardinho, Aguero and Bent