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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 24 Sep 2017, 5:24 pm

For the last time this year Sad
Surrey have named a fourteen man squad for the final Specsavers County Championship match of the summer, against Lancashire at Emirates Old Trafford.
The game starts tomorrow at 10.30am, with the squad containing all eleven players that beat Somerset at the Kia Oval last week as well as spin pair Amar Virdi and Freddie van den Bergh and all-rounder Scott Borthwick.
It will be Kumar Sangakkara’s final first-class match, with the Sri Lankan legend leaving the club and retiring from long form cricket at the end of the season. Cry Cry
Full Surrey Squad
Gareth Batty (captain)
Scott Borthwick
Rory Burns
Rikki Clarke
Sam Curran
Jade Dernbach
Ben Foakes (wk)
Stuart Meaker
Ryan Patel
Ollie Pope
Kumar Sangakkara
Mark Stoneman
Freddie van den Bergh
Amar Virdi
Thank you to everybody who has contributed over the year clap clap clap
Over to you chaps thumbsup

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Post by guildfordbat Sun 24 Sep 2017, 5:40 pm

JimBob - it's us who owe you many thanks for all the match threads over the season. clap thumbsup

You've ducked out though this final time on the eleven. You've been doing well with the predictions. Cashing in while you're ahead, eh?! Wink

I wouldn't be amazed to see Borthwick come back in for Patel. Otherwise, probably an unchanged team.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 25 Sep 2017, 9:41 am

I'm refusing to accept Sanga is retiring.
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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Mon 25 Sep 2017, 11:15 am

Guildford spot on with suggestion of Borthwick for Patel. Clearly Borthwick should be a nailed on selection for the first team - it's just that he's been woefully out of form. Hopefully his runs for the second team will have restored his confidence.

Olly in denial about Sanga. Hug I guess we'll all have to go through that bereavement process. Lancs won the toss and Surrey are batting. Burns needs 22 to complete his 1000 runs in the cc this season.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Mon 25 Sep 2017, 12:16 pm

39 - 0 after 17 overs. Digging in.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 25 Sep 2017, 12:57 pm

Sanga comes in and hits his second ball for six.

WE CANNOT LET HIM RETIRE
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Post by Afro Mon 25 Sep 2017, 2:05 pm

BBC is broken. It has just posted that Sangakarra is out.

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 25 Sep 2017, 2:13 pm

Afro wrote:BBC is broken. It has just posted that Sangakarra is out.

As if laughing

Laugh clap

Unlike one of our posters, I'm facing up to the reality of Sanga's retirement. For that reason, it's more important Borthwick gets some runs in this game.

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Post by Afro Mon 25 Sep 2017, 2:24 pm

TBH My first thought was, why couldn't he get out for 14 last week.

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Post by jimbobgooner Mon 25 Sep 2017, 3:01 pm

awful toss to lose

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Post by jimbobgooner Mon 25 Sep 2017, 3:04 pm

guildfordbat wrote:JimBob - it's us who owe you many thanks for all the match threads over the season. clap thumbsup

You've ducked out though this final time on the eleven. You've been doing well with the predictions. Cashing in while you're ahead, eh?! Wink

I wouldn't be amazed to see Borthwick come back in for Patel. Otherwise, probably an unchanged team.
I thought it was time to let others have the glory Wink

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 25 Sep 2017, 3:47 pm

jimbobgooner wrote:awful toss to lose

Hi JimBob - yeah, we did lose the toss but we wanted to bat anyway. As the away side, we could have opted to put Lancs in.

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Post by jimbobgooner Mon 25 Sep 2017, 3:55 pm

guildfordbat wrote:
jimbobgooner wrote:awful toss to lose

Hi JimBob - yeah, we did lose the toss but we wanted to bat anyway. As the away side, we could have opted to put Lancs in.
batty needs a slap then Rolling Eyes

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 25 Sep 2017, 4:20 pm

Watch Stoneman's wicket on Lance twitter account - huge turn on day one. Suggests maybe not the worst toss to lose (but also suggests we've picked the wrong team with one too many seamers)
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Post by jimbobgooner Mon 25 Sep 2017, 4:31 pm

pope picard

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 25 Sep 2017, 4:49 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Watch Stoneman's wicket on Lance twitter account - huge turn on day one. Suggests maybe not the worst toss to lose (but also suggests we've picked the wrong team with one too many seamers)

On the Surrey twitter account just before the start, Batty refers to Borthwick's inclusion for Patel as ''tactical'' and refers to possibly needing spin on the last day. I wasn't fully convinced by that. Seemed more like a way of crowbarring Borthwick back in. If we were serious about the need for an extra spinner, Freddie or Virdi as mainline spinners would have seemed a better bet to come in with probably Dernbach being benched.

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 25 Sep 2017, 4:50 pm

jimbobgooner wrote:pope picard

Just going from the scorecard - being stumped when we were already 5 down and up against it doesn't seem too clever.

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Post by jimbobgooner Mon 25 Sep 2017, 5:30 pm

50 for baby face clap

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 25 Sep 2017, 5:39 pm

If someone can explain why we've declared I'd like to know plz
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Post by jimbobgooner Mon 25 Sep 2017, 5:41 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:If someone can explain why we've declared I'd like to know plz
All I can think olly is we don't want Lancashire to get a 3rd bowling point

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Mon 25 Sep 2017, 5:49 pm

Very odd looking decision to declare with only 200 on the board. Conceivable if we were 9 down with Dernbach batting. But I'd have thought realistic chance that Curran and Meaker might well have scored another 20/30. Erm

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 25 Sep 2017, 6:10 pm

jimbobgooner wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:If someone can explain why we've declared I'd like to know plz
All I can think olly is we don't want Lancashire to get a 3rd bowling point

I hope that's not the reason! These days a team faces the risk of a points deduction if a declaration is made just to deny their opponents the opportunity of gaining bowling points; the declaration has to be for the purpose of helping the team declaring to win or save the game.

Our case will have to be that we gave Lancs a few overs to face tonight in the genuine belief that it would be easier to take wickets now than tomorrow. We might just be able to get away with that argument. However, that still doesn't mean it's the right approach to have taken. It's utterly daft imo. We haven't got enough runs on the board and should have tried to eke out as many more as possible. It's not even impossible that we could have got Jimbo a second batting point! Sam was going well and Meaker is not a total mug with the bat.

In the distant past (even before I had a bar tab! Wink ), Stuart Surridge was a Surrey captain who successfully pulled off a few quirky and innovative declarations. However, I think the main reasons then were due to a dodgy wicket and/or time running out. I don't see a valid reason today. Hope I'm wrong but Batty's decision strikes me as trying to be too clever by half.

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Post by Voice of the Beehive Tue 26 Sep 2017, 9:17 am

Even for an end of season game there's been some bizarre goings on in this game so far.

Di Venuto has admitted they misread the wicket but, even from 200 miles away, it seemed very odd not to play either Freddie or Amar having taken them in the squad. I suppose bringing in Borthwick does give an extra spin option but it still seemed odd.

That being said the conditions at the start of play did look seamer friendly so again it seemed strange not to insert the opposition. Should the wicket deteriorate of course then the decision will have been fully justified and I will give credit where it's due.

Now we come to the declaration. I suppose you could call it imaginative and attacking but in a potentially low scoring game, every run may be valuable and if the wicket is helpful then that wasn't going to change from day one to day two. To be fair overhead conditions may improve of course.

Not Surrey's finest day and not the end of the world but I'm glad we're battling Lancashire for second place not anything more significant.

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Post by guildfordbat Tue 26 Sep 2017, 11:33 am

Lancs 58/0.

An hour into day two and it is looking more and more like we have made a right mess of things. Not opting to bowl from the start and then declaring when every run is likely to be vital.

Lancs aren't going like a train and the scoreboard will obviously look a lot better if we can get a couple of wickets soon. However, that only shows up more yesterday's mistakes.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 26 Sep 2017, 11:34 am

Good job this match ultimately means nothing really cos as Guildford says, we've mucked it up big style
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Post by James100 Tue 26 Sep 2017, 12:06 pm

Batty with a wicket, Livingstone gone for 1

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Post by James100 Tue 26 Sep 2017, 12:11 pm

And Clarke gets Davies too. Lancs now 74/3 with two new batters in (albeit one is Chanderpaul).

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Tue 26 Sep 2017, 12:59 pm

84 - 5 at lunch, and Lancs lost 5 wickets for 15 runs to Clarke and Batty. So that is some comeback after Lancs had reached 69 - 0.

Right back in the game - although noteworthy that Meaker hasn't bowled a ball yet. Maybe they are saving him up to have a blast at the tail.

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue 26 Sep 2017, 1:13 pm

excellent session wonder if Lancashire will declare when 8 down?

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Post by guildfordbat Tue 26 Sep 2017, 1:27 pm

jimbobgooner wrote:excellent session wonder if Lancashire will declare when 8 down?

Laugh Laugh clap clap

An excellent second hour this morning for Surrey. However, I don't see that the declaration played any part in that. This morning has shown more than anything that every run is likely to be vital in a low scoring game.

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Post by thegooch7 Tue 26 Sep 2017, 2:40 pm

That's assuming we can actually take 8 wickets!

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Post by guildfordbat Tue 26 Sep 2017, 2:54 pm

184/6.

Going down the tubes again as Lancs close in on a first innings lead.

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue 26 Sep 2017, 3:04 pm

bang goes 2nd Sad

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Post by thegooch7 Tue 26 Sep 2017, 3:31 pm

Why is Dernbach still bowling?! Hopefully this is his last match as well

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Post by kingdaveeagle Tue 26 Sep 2017, 3:47 pm

Need a clear-out in the summer of the bowling deadwood and need to get in players who can mop up a tail. How many years has this been going on for?

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue 26 Sep 2017, 4:00 pm

can't see anyone being released tbh

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Post by kingdaveeagle Tue 26 Sep 2017, 4:18 pm

jimbobgooner wrote:can't see anyone being released tbh

Not even Dernbach, Meaker and Batty? Noooooooooo!!!!

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Tue 26 Sep 2017, 4:31 pm

Lancs lower order in process of batting us out of the game. Decision to declare early looked silly at the time. It looks more and more daft as this afternoon has gone on.

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Post by guildfordbat Tue 26 Sep 2017, 4:36 pm

I think the only player whose contract is up at the end of this season is Freddie.

Quite a few at the end of next season including Batty, Harinath, Pillans and Dunn. Probably a few others as well but not sure.

Meanwhile, Lancs extend their lead to 50+ with 3 wickets still left. picard

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Post by guildfordbat Tue 26 Sep 2017, 4:41 pm

264/8 now but they haven't declared - that ain't fair! Rolling Eyes

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue 26 Sep 2017, 4:52 pm

67 lead Yikes


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Post by jimbobgooner Tue 26 Sep 2017, 4:53 pm

shocking figures from meaks

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Post by guildfordbat Tue 26 Sep 2017, 4:57 pm

So effectively a one innings shoot out with us starting on minus 67.

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for the declaration this dig.

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue 26 Sep 2017, 5:06 pm

1,000 championship runs for third degree Smile clap clap clap clap

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue 26 Sep 2017, 5:59 pm

we've taken the lead Yahoo

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Tue 26 Sep 2017, 5:59 pm

Very pleased for Burns that he's passed 1,000 cc runs again. clap clap clap

Stoneman and Burns have really put their skates on in the second innings and have just wiped out deficit. 69 - 0 after only 14 overs.

Btw - impressive effort by Sibley to carry his bat today. He's had a good few failures opening for Warks, so his average probably won't be that good at the end of the season - but he has certainly shown evidence of his ability to dig in.

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue 26 Sep 2017, 6:01 pm

3 overs left tonight

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue 26 Sep 2017, 6:11 pm

last over

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue 26 Sep 2017, 6:11 pm

stumps lead of 12

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue 26 Sep 2017, 6:18 pm

so glad we have the best two opening batsmen after cook playing for us Very Happy

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