Premiership Round 14

Friday 28th 19:45
Bath v Harlequins

Saturday 29th all 15:00
London Irish v Exeter Chiefs
Newcastle Falcons v Gloucester
Worcester Warriors v Northampton Saints

Sunday 29th all 15:00
Sale v Leicester Tigers
Wasps v Saracens

Well Falcons will be inept in attack, and take an absolute pummeling.
Theres a free one for you.

Bath Quins

Bath: Rokoduguni, Hamer-Webb, Joseph, Redpath, Muir, Ojomoh, B Spencer; Cordwell, Du Toit, Rae, McNally (c), Williams, Ellis, Richards, Hughes.

Replacements: Doughty, Vaughan, Verden, W. Spencer, Coetzee, Simpson, Butt, Prydie.

Harlequins: Green, David, Jones, Esterhuizen, Murley, Allan, Care; Garcia Botta, Walker (c), Collier, Symons, Tizard, Lamb, Wallace, Taulani.

Replacements: Riley, Els, Kerrod, Hammond, White, Gjaltema, Beard, Lynagh.

Ojomoh at FH? Also noticed that Hughes is straight in there

Saints side for Warriors:

15 Ahsee Tuala, 14 Ollie Sleightholme, 11 Tom Collins
13 Fraser Dingwall (c), 12 Rory Hutchinson,
10 Dan Biggar, 9 Alex Mitchell

1 Alex Waller, 2 Sam Matavesi, 3 Paul Hill
4 David Ribbans, 5 Api Ratuniyarawa
6 Tom Wood, 7 Teimana Harrison, 8 Juarno Augustus

Replacements:
16 James Fish, 17 Emmanuel Iyogun, 18 Conor Carey, 19 Brandon Nansen, 20 Alex Coles, 21 Tom James
22 James Grayson, 23 Matt Proctor

Great to see Matt Proctor back after a fairly long injury and to hear that he has signed an extension to his contract.

Fraser Dingwall gets the Captains armband on the occasion of his 50th premiership appearance.

Saints - Worriers - the other team

Worcester: Searle; Humphreys, Venter, Beck, van der Merwe; Smith, Simpson; Sutherland, Annett, Judge, Batley, Kitchener, Hatherell, T Hill (capt), Kvesic.

Replacements: Miller, E Waller, Tyack, Clegg, Vailanu, Chudley, Williams, Hearle.

Bath 2nd's vs tit heads

London Irish: Stokes; Loader, Rona, Van Rensburg, Cinti; Jackson, Phipps; Goodrick-Clarke, Cornish, Hoskins, Simmons, Coleman, Rogerson (capt), Pearson, O'Brien.

Replacements: Willemse, Gigena, Van der Merwe, Munga, Cracknell, Martin Gonzalez, O'Sullivan, Rowe.

Exeter: Hogg; Woodburn, Whitten, H Skinner, O'Flaherty; J Simmonds (capt), J Maunder; Kenny, Innard, Schickerling, Gray, S Skinner, Ewers, Kirsten, Armand.

Replacements: Yeandle, Keast, Iosefa-Scott, Jenkins, Grondona, S Maunder, O'Brien, Hodge.

Pests vs cheats

Good to see Odogwu back, although at wing. He really got injured at the worst possible time last year. There is an unfamiliar name at lock too. Seems to have been made captain.

Wasps: Watson; Odogwu, Spink, Gopperth, Bassett; Atkinson, Robson; Martinez, Cruse, Alo; Launchbury (capt), Stooke, Fifita, Oghre; Shields

Replacements: van Vuuren, West, Millar-Mills, Gaskell, Morris, Wolstenholme, Fekitoa, Miller

Saracens: Goode (co-capt); Segun, Lozowski, Tompkins, Lewington; Manu Vunipola, van Zyl; Mako Vunipola (co-capt), Woolstencroft, Koch; Hunter-Hill, Swinson, McFarland, Earl; Billy Vunipola

Replacements: Lewis, Mawi, Clarey, Venter, Christie, Davies, Jackson, Maitland

STARTING XV
15 Bryce Hegarty [6]
14 Harry Potter [26]
13 Matt Scott [36]
12 Dan Kelly [33]
11 Guy Porter [30]
10 Freddie Burns [86]
9 Richard Wigglesworth (c) [24]
1 James Whitcombe [11]
2 Julián Montoya [15]
3 Dan Cole [278]
4 Harry Wells [140]
5 Calum Green [75]
6 George Martin [28]
7 Tommy Reffell [62]
8 Jasper Wiese [28]

REPLACEMENTS
16 Nic Dolly [15]
17 Francois van Wyk [7]
18 Nephi Leatigaga [55]
19 Hanro Liebenberg [43]
20 Olly Robinson *
21 Jack van Poortvliet [34]
22 Juan Pablo Socino [6]
23 Hosea Saumaki [6]

* denotes Leicester Tigers debut

SALE SHARKS XV: 15 Luke James, 14 Tom Roebuck, 13 Robert du Preez, 12 Rohan Janse van Rensburg, 11 Byron McGuigan, 10 Aj Macginty, 9 Will Cliff; 1 Ross Harrison, 2 Ewan Ashman, 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 4 Jean-Luc du Preez, 5 Lood de Jager, 6 Jono Ross (c), 7 Ben Curry, 8 Daniel du Preez

REPLACEMENTS: 16 Curtis Langdon, 17 Simon McIntyre, 18 Joe Jones, 19 JP du Preez, 20 Sam Dugdale, 21 Gus Warr, 22 Sam James, 23 Arron Reed

Falcons vs inbreds

Newcastle: Brown; Radwan, Orlando, Lucock, Carreras; Connon, Stuart; Brocklebank, McGuigan, Tampin, Peterson, Robinson, Van der Walt, Welch (capt), Chick.

Replacements: Maddison, Cade, Davison, Graham, Wilson, Nordli-Kelemeti, Haydon-Wood, Penny.

Gloucester: Evans; Carreras, Harris, Twelvetrees, Thorley; Hastings, Chapman; Rapava-Ruskin, Singleton, Balmain, Slater, Clarke, Reid, Ludlow (capt), Ackermann.

Replacements: Socino, Elrington, Gotovstev, Davidson, Clement, Varney, Kveseladze, Rees-Zammit.

Bath making Quins work hard for this one. Error riddled game.

Bath won. Is it the end of days?

Bath wanted it/ needed it more, they were running around like loonies at the end.  To be honest, despite living in the city I'm not always Bath rugby's biggest fan, but they deserved it tonight for their passion and grit.

Bath also a bit lucky maybe. Hughes picking the ball up from a ruck and being allowed to just drop it when Foley shouted no repeatedly and not getting penalised was a bit bizarre. A pen there and Quins either take 3 or kick to the corner and maybe get more. Instead the ball gets turned over shortly afterwards and Bath score down the other end. That was a clear turning point for me.

lostinwales wrote:Bath won. Is it the end of days?

yes

A glorious Bath renaissance has started......
Hooper was quoted last weekend for that Leinster game that Bath had 29 players either injured or ill.

Spencer, Redpath and JJ made a difference last night although the defence was still soft round the edges.
Bath had a fifth choice LH last night and a novice at FH and the pack had a very makeshift look about it but Quins were poor last night with errors and penalties conceded.
There are a few more players close to a comeback and badly needed.

Still not sure I understand how (or if) the Premiership really think about how to grow the sport.  Only three matches today and two are at the same time.  In a small league like the Premiership, not sure I understand why matches overlap with each other.  Better opportunity for more tv coverage and more viewership if, for instance, there was a match at 3:00pm, 5:00pm, and 7:00pm.And Sunday, both matches are at 3:00pm. Don't get it.

The Prem only sold TV rights for three games a weekend I think. I'm fairly sure BT would cover them all if it was allowed.

What happened to the Falcons game - moved to 7pm for some reason?

Heaf wrote:What happened to the Falcons game - moved to 7pm for some reason?

I wondered why the BT Sport App wasn't working.

High wind being blamed for the delayed kick off.

Heaf wrote:What happened to the Falcons game - moved to 7pm for some reason?

Adverse weather conditions apparently. Irritating because I just sat down to watch it...

Sit yourself down and watch Saints.....

Me too ... will have to carry on building that wardrobe now

doctor_grey wrote:Sit yourself down and watch Saints.....

Are you using a live stream from somewhere?

Heaf wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:Sit yourself down and watch Saints.....

Are you using a live stream from somewhere?

Yeah, Peacock here in New Jersey. I thought all games were on the BT app. Is this wrong?

doctor_grey wrote:

Heaf wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:Sit yourself down and watch Saints.....

Are you using a live stream from somewhere?

Yeah, Peacock here in New Jersey.  I thought all games were on the BT app.  Is this wrong?  

Never mind - this is hard to watch. Saints not good. Ditto Wooster.

doctor_grey wrote:

Heaf wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:Sit yourself down and watch Saints.....

Are you using a live stream from somewhere?

Yeah, Peacock here in New Jersey.  I thought all games were on the BT app.  Is this wrong?  

Not on the website but haven't checked the app ... could be missing a trick here ...

Weird game by Saints. Only 42% possession in the first half. Three scoring opportunities, three tries. But little possession and poor play by Mitchell despite his try (he had a gap wider than all Worcestershire to jog through). Last two tries against 14 men. So, despite the score line, closer and not terribly well played.

Have you ever noticed that at least half the times the scrum halves start flapping their arms and complaining the ball isn't coming out of a ruck the referee ends up awarding the put-in to the other team?

Saints poopie (my word). Worcester poopier.


At least for today, Saints are not Quins...

Good win for Irish to do the double over the Chiefs this season - 2nd half must have been cagey as zero points for either team - that doesn't happen often ...

Heaf wrote:Good win for Irish to do the double over the Chiefs this season - 2nd half must have been cagey as zero points for either team - that doesn't happen often ...

Might be weather related. Things looking rough out there

I take it captain marvel super Dan came through the Saints game?

Did he do okay?

doctor_grey wrote:

Heaf wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:Sit yourself down and watch Saints.....

Are you using a live stream from somewhere?

Yeah, Peacock here in New Jersey.  I thought all games were on the BT app.  Is this wrong?  

Sadly yes. During lockdown BT had all the games but as the crowds came back the number of games reverted to three per weekend. Different on European weekends where nearly all the games are covered.

Glaws doing their best to help Falcons by giving away loads of stupid penalties ...

formerly known as Sam wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:

Heaf wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:Sit yourself down and watch Saints.....

Are you using a live stream from somewhere?

Yeah, Peacock here in New Jersey.  I thought all games were on the BT app.  Is this wrong?  

Sadly yes. During lockdown BT had all the games but as the crowds came back the number of games reverted to three per weekend. Different on European weekends where nearly all the games are covered.

I really didn't know that.  I thought on the app everything was still shown live.  So, here in America I can watch everything live and back home we can't?  It sounds like the Premiership still has to learn what the NFL learned:  People who watch on TV generally don't cannibalise the stadium attendance.

EDIT: Just asked my old man and he told me that this season he had to use a US VPN (my hospital's - so much for respecting privacy security laws) and my Peacock credentials which I must have given him at one point. Peacock allows a few different log-ins at the same time,

Wow hell of a try for LRZ

Late try for Falcons - and max points for me on Superbru

Falcons attack coach, what does he do during the week? There's some very good attacking talent there and some very dull set up that's wasting them. Haydon-Wood made a good impact and Radwan was electric.

Gloucester just look a well dialled in team. Skivington has done similar to Borthwick and put the building blocks in place gradually. Paying dividends now with good set piece giving them attacking opportunities.

I can see now why GF is so frustrated ... although as an Irish fan I've had my own fair share of frustration in the past

GeordieFalcon wrote:Well Falcons will be inept in attack, and take an absolute pummeling.
Theres a free one for you.

Well i told you.

If Dean is in charge next season I won't be attending any games....had enough.

He actually said..."we don't do well in January and February "

Seriously!!!!

I have to admit his post-match interview was less than convincing ...

Saying he didn't talk to the players afterwards and just left it for them to sort it out amongst themselves was bizarre ....

He has to go Heaf.

Enough is enough. We actually have a good squad with some very dynamic players and we looks inept and like we've never trained together.

Time for a young up and coming coach who is looking for a team with huge young talent to use as a stepping stone. It's the perfect place.

GeordieFalcon wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:Well Falcons will be inept in attack, and take an absolute pummeling.
Theres a free one for you.

Well i told you.

If Dean is in charge next season I won't be attending any games....had enough.

He actually said..."we don't do well in January and February "

Seriously!!!!

You have a plastic pitch, it should be pretty much the same all year round?

I think you're right. Find a new up and coming coach, the Skivington or Borthwick equivalent.

Sam...you should see the response by the fan's tonight. I think Dean's on Borrowed time now.

And we're not expecting to be top of the table....we just want to see some genuine rugby like they have actually trained together...and use the attacking talent we have.

Was it the ref or one of the players that was coughing away all game during Worcester v Northampton?

RDW wrote:Was it the ref or one of the players that was coughing away all game during Worcester v Northampton?

No, that was me from 3000 miles away coughing and choking on my food watching Saints play as poorly as a team can play and still come away with a bonus point win. I've had patients wake up after a surgical procedure with more energy and mental awareness than Saints yesterday.

is it just me imagining it or do Sale get marched back a lot for gobbing off to the ref?

Ooft just turned on as Porter broke through. That's abysmal defence from Sale.

Porter has been such an impressive all round player for Tigers having signed from Sydney Uni though.

When Burns sticks the script he's still got it. He seems to forget there's a script more frequently these days though...