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Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Rugby, 23 September

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Post by George Carlin Thu 22 Sep 2022, 12:03 pm

Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Rugby
23 September 2022, 18:35
Scotstoun Cake Tin

Why did they stop with the Cardiff Blues moniker? I liked it.

TEAMS:

Soapdodgers:
01. Jamie Bhatti (68)
02. Fraser Brown (123)
03. Zander Fagerson (116)
04. Scott Cummings (91)
05. Richie Gray (84)
06. Matt Fagerson (80)
07. Rory Darge (21)
08. Jack Dempsey (23)

09. George Horne (81)
10. Tom Jordan (1)
11. Kyle Steyn (C) (50)
12. Stafford McDowall (39)
13. Sione Tuipulotu (21)
14. Sebastian Cancelliere (10)
15. Cole Forbes (25)

16. George Turner (78)
17. Oli Kebble (78)
18. Lucio Sordoni (1)
19. JP du Preez (0)
20. Sintu Manjezi (1)
21. Thomas Gordon (53)
22. Ali Price (112)
23. Domingo Miotti (6)

Unavailable for selection: Lewis Bean (head), Allan Dell (calf), Jamie Dobie (hamstring), Huw Jones (back), Nathan McBeth (knee) Ally Miller (back), Enrique Pieretto (shoulder), Ollie Smith (back), Ross Thompson (back), Sione Vailanu (sickness)

Sheep Defilers:
15. Matthew Morgan
15. Aled Summerhill
13. Mason Grady
12. Max Llewellyn
11. Josh Adams
10. Jarrod Evans
09. Tomos Williams

01. Rhys Carré
02. Kristian Dacey
03. Dillon Lewis
04. Josh Turnbull (capt.)
05. Seb Davies
06. James Botham
07. Thomas Young
08. James Ratti

Replacements: Liam Belcher, Brad Thyer, Keiron Assiratti, Matthew Screech, Lopeti Timani, Lloyd Williams, Rhys Priestland, Uilisi Halaholo

Unavailable for selection:

Ben Thomas (shoulder) - November

Josh Navidi (Neck) - October/November

Kirby Myhill (Hamstring) - September

Theo Cabango (Shoulder) - September

Corey Domachowski (Hamstring) - October

Ellis Jenkins (Knee) - available next week

Owen Lane (Ankle)

Liam Williams (Shoulder) - December/January
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Post by BigGee Thu 22 Sep 2022, 12:45 pm

Looks a slightly better pack thsn last week, but still pretty worried about the half backs, who will need a massive improvement to gain my confidence.

Price and Miotti on the bench makes me feel a bit better and hopefully the gane won't be iver rhis time before they come on!

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Post by funnyExiledScot Thu 22 Sep 2022, 2:32 pm

I like that Glasgow pack but less convinced about the backs. Cancelliere is class mind you.

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Post by jimbopip Thu 22 Sep 2022, 6:22 pm

Cardiff won against Munster last week, which is usually A Good Thing.
The turnover count was about 10:1 in their favour. Another Good Thing.
The top carriers in the match were; Faletau, Botham and Dacey. Another Good Thing.

However, Cardiff never really managed to pull away from Munster and if the Irishmen had scored at the death instead of going through multiple phases and then being turned over in the Cardiff 22 then they could have salvaged a draw. chin
Also, Faletau is missing from the squad. Crying or Very sad
As is Liam Williams. Crying or Very sad

Against this Glasgow were rank rotten against a good Benetton side.
Chuckles, Ragnar and Cummings will massively improve the front five.
Having a 6 at 6, a 7 at 7 and an 8 at 8 is a revolutionary idea but it should work better than last week.

No changes behind the scrum probably means that the General is putting last week's horrorshow down to being undercooked rather than innate rubbishness. Hornito has a lot to prove tomorrow. Tom Jordan needn't be too worried: if he struggles then Miotti should be fine when he comes on.

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I think Glasgow might just do this.
Then again FES thinks Liz Truss is worth getting his sheets all sticky for.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Thu 22 Sep 2022, 6:30 pm

jimbopip wrote:Then again FES thinks Liz Truss is worth getting his sheets all sticky for.

vomit vomit vomit

Worst thing I’ve read all day. And I’ve been at work all day so there was plenty of competition!

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Post by bsando Thu 22 Sep 2022, 7:28 pm

Glasgow pack need to show up otherwise I can't see anything but a Blues win for this one.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Thu 22 Sep 2022, 11:17 pm

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:
jimbopip wrote:Then again FES thinks Liz Truss is worth getting his sheets all sticky for.

vomit vomit vomit

Worst thing I’ve read all day. And I’ve been at work all day so there was plenty of competition!

Truss isn't hot, regardless of those early photos of her as a Lib Dem at 20......

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Post by RiscaGame Fri 23 Sep 2022, 1:25 am

Cardiff won’t win away. They’ve stacked their squad accordingly.

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Post by jimbopip Fri 23 Sep 2022, 7:28 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:
TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:
jimbopip wrote:Then again FES thinks Liz Truss is worth getting his sheets all sticky for.

vomit vomit vomit

Worst thing I’ve read all day. And I’ve been at work all day so there was plenty of competition!

Truss isn't hot, regardless of those early photos of her as a Lib Dem at 20......

eeuugh!!! That's like watching people club baby seals with baseball bats. You feel unclean just by belonging to the same species as them.

p.s. Glasgow by 18 tonight.

Or Cardiff by 6. Maybe.

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Post by PhilBB Fri 23 Sep 2022, 11:42 am

bsando wrote:Glasgow pack need to show up otherwise I can't see anything but a Blues win for this one.

The Blues aren't playing, so you'll struggle to see that.
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Post by PhilBB Fri 23 Sep 2022, 11:43 am

RiscaGame wrote:Cardiff won’t win away. They’ve stacked their squad accordingly.

Exactly
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Post by George Carlin Fri 23 Sep 2022, 11:54 am

PhilBB wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:Cardiff won’t win away. They’ve stacked their squad accordingly.

Exactly
So you're saying this isn't the 'A' team, Phil?
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Post by PhilBB Fri 23 Sep 2022, 12:02 pm

George Carlin wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:Cardiff won’t win away. They’ve stacked their squad accordingly.

Exactly
So you're saying this isn't the 'A' team, Phil?

The best team? No.

It's missing Lane, Navidi, Faletau, Halaholo (from the start), Lee Lo, Arhip. Third choice 15.

The bench is missing Domachowski, Ben Thomas and and Myhill.

It's decent. It should be competitive, but it's only their second game of the season. I appreciate Glasgow had a similarly disruptive pre-season.

Also, Cardiff can't be arsed outside of Wales. Hell, they can't be arsed much of the time in Wales.
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Post by George Carlin Fri 23 Sep 2022, 12:12 pm

PhilBB wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:Cardiff won’t win away. They’ve stacked their squad accordingly.

Exactly
So you're saying this isn't the 'A' team, Phil?

The best team? No.

It's missing Lane, Navidi, Faletau, Halaholo (from the start), Lee Lo, Arhip. Third choice 15.

The bench is missing Domachowski, Ben Thomas and and Myhill.

It's decent. It should be competitive, but it's only their second game of the season. I appreciate Glasgow had a similarly disruptive pre-season.

Also, Cardiff can't be arsed outside of Wales. Hell, they can't be arsed much of the time in Wales.
Hmm, I see what you mean.

Glasgow's problem is that they still have PTSD about getting comprehensively defecated on by Leinster at the end of last season. They're used to losing and they were barely lukewarm against Treviso. It wasn't pretty to watch. At least Cardiff got the win last week. Let's see which version of each team shows up.
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Post by PhilBB Fri 23 Sep 2022, 12:17 pm

George Carlin wrote:

Glasgow's problem is that they still have PTSD about getting comprehensively defecated on by Leinster at the end of last season. They're used to losing and they were barely lukewarm against Treviso. It wasn't pretty to watch. At least Cardiff got the win last week. Let's see which version of each team shows up.

My bunch were defecated on from a greater height by the might of, erm, Benetton.

This could be one of those races to the bottom.

And then there's the mighty Chris Busby. A ref with only a 44% home win record (most unusual for referees) https://www.cardiffrfcfans.com/analysis/referee_profile.php?refereeID=530

He even refereed a Glasgow loss, in Glasgow, to the Cuckoos of Gwent.
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Post by mikey_dragon Fri 23 Sep 2022, 12:31 pm

PhilBB wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:Cardiff won’t win away. They’ve stacked their squad accordingly.

Exactly
So you're saying this isn't the 'A' team, Phil?

The best team? No.

It's missing Lane, Navidi, Faletau, Halaholo (from the start), Lee Lo, Arhip. Third choice 15.

The bench is missing Domachowski, Ben Thomas and and Myhill.

It's decent. It should be competitive, but it's only their second game of the season. I appreciate Glasgow had a similarly disruptive pre-season.

Also, Cardiff can't be arsed outside of Wales. Hell, they can't be arsed much of the time in Wales.

Navidi, Lee-Lo and Arhip will struggle to make the first team. Arhip especially, too hit and miss and a penalty machine at times. Davies-King comes across as a promising prospect as do both your starting centres.

The things that should be most conerning for you are:

1. Turnbull and Seb Davies at 2nd row (too weak).
2. Turnbull as captain for the season when he shouldn't be in the first XV's matchday 23.

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 7:45 pm

Well Glasgow at least looked like they have turned up this week!

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 7:54 pm

That's Darge off with a bad looking knee injury

Not good at all, hope it's not to serious

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:02 pm

Fabulous pass from Evans and Adams goes over in the corner

7-0 Cardiff

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:10 pm

Good response from Glasgow

A great backs move costs Cardiff a penalty and a YC for Tomas Young and a subsequent try from the lineout for Frazer Brown

George Horne kicks the conversion and it ism 7 all

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:11 pm

And Glasgow go coast to coast from the kick off

Brilliant try from Forbes

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:12 pm

Horne kicks another one

14-7 Glasgow

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:16 pm

Is Matt Fagerson over?

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:18 pm

Yes he is, what an expensive YC this has been for Cardiff, 3 tries!

Georgie good again

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:23 pm

That's a RC for Tom Jordan unfortunately

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:24 pm

YC, he is a lucky boy!

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:28 pm

Penalty Cardiff

21-10 Glasgow

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:31 pm

Glasgow battering the Cardiff line and get multiple penalties

Surprisingly they take the scrum instead of a certain 3 points

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:33 pm

Never in doubt, Hornito goes over from a ruck!

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:35 pm

And he kicks the conversion

28-10 at HT to Glasgow

Seen worse halves at Scotstoun!

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Post by mikey_dragon Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:38 pm

Glasgow look like their old selves here. Not sure what happened to Cardiff, must be that soft underbelly in the 2nd row I was talking about.

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:52 pm

Early try back for Cardiff

28-17 Cardiff

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:55 pm

Wow, this is end to end stuff

Is Zander over now?

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 8:55 pm

Yes it is

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:05 pm

Haloholo high tackles only a minute on the pitch and off he goes for 10 mins

Glasgow score from the line out

Cardiff look like they have bailed out now

Conversion missed, 40-17 Glasgow

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Post by Anglobraveheart Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:12 pm

Thanks for the updates Big Gee. It's making for pleasant reading whilst I'm at the gym?

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Post by Anglobraveheart Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:13 pm

No idea why I put a question mark after that 🤔

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:16 pm

Glasgow not taking their foot off the throat at all

They are rampant and score in the corner with Tom Jordan, who has had a really good game it has to be said after a shaky start last weekend.


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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:17 pm

and if it gets knocked off for a forward pass, after the conversion as well!!

It looked ok to me

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:21 pm

We are rampant and are not settling for what we have got. Great break from Dempsey and then a soft pass to Gordon who goes under the posts.

Cardiff are on the bus home unfortunately, tackling seems to be optional now

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:26 pm

Cardiff get one back after a series of 5m lineouts

Can they nick a BP from this game?

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Post by Anglobraveheart Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:27 pm

Brilliant. Let's hope that they have truly rediscovered their mojo, and this isn't a one-off.

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:32 pm

McDowell, who has had a very good game, charges down a speculative chip and scores

That's the 50 up

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:34 pm

What has really been pleasing is that they have not eased off once the game was won, which was quite some time ago.

Even last season, when we won, we always eased off and made hard work of it. This is a kind of attitude you see from the better teams, who never ease off.

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:36 pm

a final 5m lineout for Glasgow

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:40 pm

George Horne gets MoM, hard to argue

For me, Ritchie Gray was as good as I have seen him back in a Glasgow shirt. Tuipolotu was very impressive as well

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Post by BigGee Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:43 pm

Bit of a harum scarum ending, Cardiff fluffing the chance of a BP and Glasgow running it from their own line for no obvious reason.

The score stands though, a very good win for Glasgow and you would have to say a spanking for Cardiff, who will surely be very disappointed.

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Post by mikey_dragon Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:43 pm

Priestland is rubbish. I remember someone (Phil) telling me it was a great signing, haha…. Sad

Cardiff were demolished.

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Post by Tramptastic Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:52 pm

Safe to say that Glasgow cobwebs have been well and truly blown away?

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Post by RDW Fri 23 Sep 2022, 9:59 pm

Ooft where did that come from!

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