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Highlanders v Waratahs is currently live. Rhys Patchell plays for the Highlanders and having a decent season so far.
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Watched a replay of Moana Pasifika v. Rebels. No one in the stands, but a fairly entertaining match. Seemed like a Covid match.
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Mainly because Moana Pasifika was artificially created and then dropped into Auckland. If they were playing games around the islands they'd get better crowds.
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They are supposed to be playing elsewhere but the ground wasn't ready, so the game was moved to Hamilton. Still a bit surprised to see just how empty the ground was, given the large Tongan disporea there.formerly known as Sam wrote:Mainly because Moana Pasifika was artificially created and then dropped into Auckland. If they were playing games around the islands they'd get better crowds.
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formerly known as Sam wrote:Mainly because Moana Pasifika was artificially created and then dropped into Auckland. If they were playing games around the islands they'd get better crowds.
Seems a bit dodgy that a PI team would be based in NZ. All players racking up the five year residency requirement while playing super rugby for a PI side. Hmm.
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It is officially a NZRU side. I've honestly no idea why they exist other than to make the competition 12 teams. They also couldn't have picked a worse time to set this side up as the PI population in NZ have mostly converted to rugby league.Collapse2005 wrote:formerly known as Sam wrote:Mainly because Moana Pasifika was artificially created and then dropped into Auckland. If they were playing games around the islands they'd get better crowds.
Seems a bit dodgy that a PI team would be based in NZ. All players racking up the five year residency requirement while playing super rugby for a PI side. Hmm.
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Rough day for the Kiwis. Drua beat the Crusaders and then the Reds beat the Chiefs.
Scott Robertson probably thinking he's got a lot of work on to turn out a strong 23 given the amount of experience lost after the world cup and the issues surrounding some of the sides currently.
Scott Robertson probably thinking he's got a lot of work on to turn out a strong 23 given the amount of experience lost after the world cup and the issues surrounding some of the sides currently.
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Headline in the Sydney Morning Herald reads "Australian teams are flying in Super Rugby. Eddie Jones may be the reason why"
https://archive.is/UvGcJ
The writer says the players Jones snubbed have come out roaring, while the youngsters he took have learned from the experience. Can't imagine anyone else in Australia is minded to see Jones' influence that way.
https://archive.is/UvGcJ
The writer says the players Jones snubbed have come out roaring, while the youngsters he took have learned from the experience. Can't imagine anyone else in Australia is minded to see Jones' influence that way.
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Australia has got some half decent talent coming through. Eddie pressing the reset on the squad wasn't a terrible ideal though doing in such a wholesale way going into a world cup was a bit optimistic. Perhaps the more Borthwick approach of bringing in a few for the world cup so the experienced players could help and then post world cup up the rebuild a bit more.
Either way with Schmidt now at the helm the Aussie boys will be given some pretty direct work ons and where they need to be to fit into the system.
Either way with Schmidt now at the helm the Aussie boys will be given some pretty direct work ons and where they need to be to fit into the system.
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Australia will improve a lot under Schmidt, I can see them getting a win v NZ in the rugby championship.
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I think Aus will win both their games against Wales in the summer series, that's obviously an improvement from their last outing...
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Crusaders have a rough month ahead of them - think the next 4 fixtures are against other new zealand teams. If they lose those they could be in a bit of bother to try to make the top 8.
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Western Force have just gone 30-15 up against the Crusaders with under six minutes left.
Can't recall a champion side imploding quite so quickly. The assumption has always been that the Crusdaders will make the Super Rugby play-offs despite a poor start but there must be some doubts creeping in now.
EDIT: The Force score on the stroke of full-time, and made it 37-15. The Crusaders are at the foot of the table.
Can't recall a champion side imploding quite so quickly. The assumption has always been that the Crusdaders will make the Super Rugby play-offs despite a poor start but there must be some doubts creeping in now.
EDIT: The Force score on the stroke of full-time, and made it 37-15. The Crusaders are at the foot of the table.
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Have the crusaders lost a lot of players?
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carpet baboon wrote:Have the crusaders lost a lot of players?
Richie Mo’unga, Sam Whitelock, Leicester Fainga’anuku, Jack Goodhue and Sione Havili Talitui all left.
It's still a good squad but they've had injuries (Halfpenny will hardly feature)
Codie Taylor
Brodie McAlister
George Bell
Ioane Moananu
Joe Moody
Finlay Brewis
George Bower
Tamaiti Williams
Fletcher Newell
Scott Barrett (capt)
Quinten Strange
Tahlor Cahill
Zach Gallagher
Jamie Hannah
Ethan Blackadder
Cullen Grace
Tom Christie
Christian Lio-Willie
Corey Kellow
Dominic Gardiner
Noah Hotham
Mitchell Drummond
Willi Heinz
Fergus Burke
Taha Kemara
Rivez Reihana
David Havili
Dallas McLeod
Levi Aumua
Ryan Crotty
Jone Rova
Will Jordan
Sevu Reece
Macca Springer
Manasa Mataele
Chay Fihaki
Leigh Halfpenny
Heremaia Murray
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Crusaders lost two or three coaches to the ABs didn't they, including Robertson. When you add in the injuries that decimated their flyhalf stocks then it's always likely to be tough.
Losing Ennor, Goodhue, Mo'unga and Fainga’anuku is huge. Four ABs straight out the back line.
Add Oli Jaeger to your list who's already been capped by Ireland having gone to Munster.
Losing Ennor, Goodhue, Mo'unga and Fainga’anuku is huge. Four ABs straight out the back line.
Add Oli Jaeger to your list who's already been capped by Ireland having gone to Munster.
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Rugby Fan wrote:Western Force have just gone 30-15 up against the Crusaders with under six minutes left.
Can't recall a champion side imploding quite so quickly. The assumption has always been that the Crusdaders will make the Super Rugby play-offs despite a poor start but there must be some doubts creeping in now.
EDIT: The Force score on the stroke of full-time, and made it 37-15. The Crusaders are at the foot of the table.
The Crusaders have won almost half of all super rugby titles, they have been incredibly dominant. The closest side to them in terms of titles has won a quarter as many as them. I do wonder what impact their demise will have on the ABs.
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Rugby Fan wrote:carpet baboon wrote:Have the crusaders lost a lot of players?
Richie Mo’unga, Sam Whitelock, Leicester Fainga’anuku, Jack Goodhue and Sione Havili Talitui all left.
It's still a good squad but they've had injuries (Halfpenny will hardly feature)
Codie Taylor
Brodie McAlister
George Bell
Ioane Moananu
Joe Moody
Finlay Brewis
George Bower
Tamaiti Williams
Fletcher Newell
Scott Barrett (capt)
Quinten Strange
Tahlor Cahill
Zach Gallagher
Jamie Hannah
Ethan Blackadder
Cullen Grace
Tom Christie
Christian Lio-Willie
Corey Kellow
Dominic Gardiner
Noah Hotham
Mitchell Drummond
Willi Heinz
Fergus Burke
Taha Kemara
Rivez Reihana
David Havili
Dallas McLeod
Levi Aumua
Ryan Crotty
Jone Rova
Will Jordan
Sevu Reece
Macca Springer
Manasa Mataele
Chay Fihaki
Leigh Halfpenny
Heremaia Murray
They lost Oli Jager to Munster too, good player, should have been capped by the ABs. Burke is obviously leaving soon too.
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Stuff.co.nz is brutal:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350247594/super-rugby-pacific-rock-bottom-slump-woeful-crusadersA red and black season of misery has officially hit rock bottom. In a remarkable fall from grace, the reigning champion Crusaders occupy the wooden-spoon position after their embarrassing 37-15 defeat to the Force in Perth on Saturday night.
Now with one lousy win from eight games to their name, their second loss in Australia in as many weeks ensured they were leapfrogged by the previously last-placed Force, a team littered with journeymen.
In a season stacked with lame performances, this one takes the cake as the worst of all.
Poor discipline, bad defensive reads, a faltering lineout, loose carries, questionable decision-making, an overly lateral attack, an ongoing inability to exit their half efficiently - the list goes on.
And, perhaps most telling of all when it comes to gauging where the Crusaders’ heads are at, they coughed up two rolling maul tries to the Force.
Yes, remember when rumbling over the chalk via a lineout drive against the Crusaders was considered so difficult teams didn’t even bother trying it?
At the other end of the field, for what felt like the umpteenth time this year, the Crusaders made a meal of a lineout 5m from the line, the area of the field they once punished teams with brutal and ruthless efficiency...
...Dead last but still only six points outside the top-eight, the Crusaders remain alive.
But it’s increasingly difficult to imagine them featuring in the playoffs after their latest stinker, even with Scott Barrett and David Havili due back from injury.
What’s clear is their body language said a lot when things went wrong in Perth.
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Leigh Halfpenny is named at 15 for the Crusaders match against the Red today. It'll be his debut, after a bad pectoral injury in preseason.
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