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Post by The genius of PBF Thu 14 Jul 2011, 10:13 am

1. Carl Froch
2. David Haye
3. Amir Khan
4. Ricky Burns
5. Nathan Cleverly
6. George Groves
7. Kell Brook
8. Matthew Macklin
9. James Degale
10. Darren Barker


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Post by HumanWindmill Thu 14 Jul 2011, 10:16 am

1. Floyd Froch
2. Floyd Haye
3. Floyd Khan
4. Floyd Cleverly
5. Floyd Burns
6. Floyd Groves
7. Floyd Brook
8. Floyd Degale
9. Floyd Macklin
10. Floyd Gavin

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Post by Rowley Thu 14 Jul 2011, 10:17 am

Have to have Khan above Haye, at heavy Haye is coming off the back of a crushing loss and prior to this has fought one top ten guy. Khan on the other hand has fought Maidina, Mcloskey, Paulie and Koetlnik recently all of who were top ten guys in the division. Haye cannot live off his cruiserweight exploits for ever. Also think Barker has done more to deserve a berth than Gavin. Would also have Burns above Clev, the Martinez win is better than anything Clev can boast thus far.

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Post by Scottrf Thu 14 Jul 2011, 10:23 am

Freddie Welsh
Scot Harrison
Russ Taff
Jock Livingstone
Bill English
Tommy Atkins
Matt Welsh
Johnny English
Chris Welsh
Jock Gaynor

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Post by Michaels, Sean Thu 14 Jul 2011, 10:24 am

De Gale above Macklin?
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Post by Scottrf Thu 14 Jul 2011, 10:28 am

Froch
Khan
Haye
Cleverly
Burns
Macklin
Brook
Groves
Barker
McDonnell

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Post by coxy0001 Thu 14 Jul 2011, 10:32 am

.01 Donald
.02 MclRoy
.03 Westwood
.04 Poulter
.05 McDowell
.06 Casey
.07 Rose
.08 Fisher
.09 Davis
.10 Rock

Thanks, Coxy

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Post by The genius of PBF Thu 14 Jul 2011, 10:33 am

coxy0001 wrote:.01 Donald
.02 MclRoy
.03 Westwood
.04 Poulter
.05 McDowell
.06 Casey
.07 Rose
.08 Fisher
.09 Davis
.10 Rock

Thanks, Coxy

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Post by coxy0001 Thu 14 Jul 2011, 10:35 am

You said to post my British top 10, so i have.

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Post by The genius of PBF Thu 14 Jul 2011, 10:37 am

coxy0001 wrote:You said to post my British top 10, so i have.

It is okay I know you are out of your depth discussing boxing. Wink


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Post by The genius of PBF Thu 14 Jul 2011, 10:42 am

I have amended the list Rowley and Scott...thanks for your contributions to the thread much appreciated.

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Post by Young_Towzer Thu 14 Jul 2011, 11:28 am

1. Ashley Cole
2. Wayne Rooney
3. Steven Gerrard
4. Frank Lampard
5. Ashley Young
6. Micah Richards
7. John Terry
8. Gary Cahill
9. Jermain Defoe
10. Theo Walcott
in no particular order

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Post by Young_Towzer Thu 14 Jul 2011, 11:29 am

coxy0001 wrote:.01 Donald
.02 MclRoy
.03 Westwood
.04 Poulter
.05 McDowell
.06 Casey
.07 Rose
.08 Fisher
.09 Davis
.10 Rock

Thanks, Coxy

I thought Col Montgomery would of made the list, coxy.

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Post by Scottrf Thu 14 Jul 2011, 11:34 am

Young_Towzer wrote:
coxy0001 wrote:.01 Donald
.02 MclRoy
.03 Westwood
.04 Poulter
.05 McDowell
.06 Casey
.07 Rose
.08 Fisher
.09 Davis
.10 Rock

Thanks, Coxy

I thought Col Montgomery would of made the list, coxy.

It's P4P.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 14 Jul 2011, 11:36 am

McIlroy & McDowell aren't even British...
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Post by Scottrf Thu 14 Jul 2011, 11:37 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGTWmrnPdgk

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu 14 Jul 2011, 11:57 am

1 Churchill
2 Wellington
3 Henry V
4 Montgomery (Field Marshall)
5 R J Mitchell
6 Frank Whittle
7 Logie Baird
8 Barnes Wallis
9 Guy Gibson
10 Nelson

List open to alteration due to being in a rush.

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Post by Rowley Thu 14 Jul 2011, 11:59 am

BALTIMORA wrote:1 Churchill
2 Wellington
3 Henry V
4 Montgomery (Field Marshall)
5 R J Mitchell
6 Frank Whittle
7 Logie Baird
8 Barnes Wallis
9 Guy Gibson
10 Nelson

List open to alteration due to being in a rush.

Find room for Fred Trueman and we might be able to take the list seriously

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Post by Union Cane Thu 14 Jul 2011, 12:00 pm

No Thatcher Balti?
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Post by Rowley Thu 14 Jul 2011, 12:02 pm

Damn right Alma the man that discovered potatoes deserves a mention

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu 14 Jul 2011, 12:21 pm

Union Cane wrote:No Thatcher Balti?

I was tempted, but she's a hot potato...

Jeff; who would you replace with Trueman then?

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Post by Rowley Thu 14 Jul 2011, 12:23 pm

Since the missus made me sit through the E Channel last night Logie Baird can do one, he has a lot to answer for.

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Post by Scottrf Thu 14 Jul 2011, 12:36 pm

I'm surprised you find room to use a PC under that thumb...

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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Thu 14 Jul 2011, 12:43 pm

Froch
Haye
Khan
Burns
Cleverly
Macklin
Murray
Chisora
Barker
Groves
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Post by BALTIMORA Thu 14 Jul 2011, 12:44 pm

E! channel? You poor sod!! I tell my Mrs if she wants to watch that it has to be when I'm not there!

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Post by Union Cane Thu 14 Jul 2011, 12:44 pm

Get your predictions in SBS!
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Post by Rowley Thu 14 Jul 2011, 12:46 pm

Sugar as another person who has Haye above Khan have to ask what you are basing that on. For me his heavyweight record is not all that, has fought two top ten guys, one was Valuev and the other kicked his backside a couple of weeks ago. His cruiserweight time was some years ago, for me he can't live on this for ever.

I remain unconvinced Khan is the real deal but in Paulie, McLoskey, Maidina and Kotelnik he is fighting and beating top ten guys in his division. Obviously all subjective but at the minute personally can't see an argument to have Haye above Khan

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 14 Jul 2011, 12:47 pm

alma wrote:
rowley wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:1 Churchill
2 Wellington
3 Henry V
4 Montgomery (Field Marshall)
5 R J Mitchell
6 Frank Whittle
7 Logie Baird
8 Barnes Wallis
9 Guy Gibson
10 Nelson

List open to alteration due to being in a rush.

Find room for Fred Trueman and we might be able to take the list seriously

Surely Christopher Columbus should be in there, if the contestants of the Apprentice are to be believed

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Post by Michaels, Sean Thu 14 Jul 2011, 12:51 pm

1-10

Sir Geoffrey Boycott
Len Hutton
Fred Trueman
Michael Vaughan
Darren Gough
Darren Lehmann
Matthew Hoggard
Ray Illingworth
Ryan Sidebottom
Martyn Moxon
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Post by HumanWindmill Thu 14 Jul 2011, 12:55 pm

No Derek Underwood, Sean ?

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Post by Michaels, Sean Thu 14 Jul 2011, 1:00 pm

HumanWindmill wrote:No Derek Underwood, Sean ?

What a miss........ I think he slips in ahead of Trueman and knocks Martyn Moxon out of the top ten. Shame as Moxon once invited me in to the chnaging rooms at the Oval to get my book signed by all the Yorkshire players.
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Post by Union Cane Thu 14 Jul 2011, 1:02 pm

Michaels, Sean wrote:
HumanWindmill wrote:No Derek Underwood, Sean ?

What a miss........ I think he slips in ahead of Trueman and knocks Martyn Moxon out of the top ten. Shame as Moxon once invited me in to the chnaging rooms at the Oval to get my book signed by all the Yorkshire players.

As euphamisms go, that's a cracker.
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Post by Dass Thu 14 Jul 2011, 1:04 pm

alma wrote:
rowley wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:1 Churchill
2 Wellington
3 Henry V
4 Montgomery (Field Marshall)
5 R J Mitchell
6 Frank Whittle
7 Logie Baird
8 Barnes Wallis
9 Guy Gibson
10 Nelson

List open to alteration due to being in a rush.

Find room for Fred Trueman and we might be able to take the list seriously

Surely Christopher Columbus should be in there, if the contestants of the Apprentice are to be believed

The guy discovered the Potato he deserves more respect he should be a top 5 nailed on!

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Post by Michaels, Sean Thu 14 Jul 2011, 1:06 pm

Union Cane wrote:
Michaels, Sean wrote:
HumanWindmill wrote:No Derek Underwood, Sean ?

What a miss........ I think he slips in ahead of Trueman and knocks Martyn Moxon out of the top ten. Shame as Moxon once invited me in to the chnaging rooms at the Oval to get my book signed by all the Yorkshire players.

As euphamisms go, that's a cracker.

I was walking round in circles for days......
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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Thu 14 Jul 2011, 1:14 pm

rowley wrote:Sugar as another person who has Haye above Khan have to ask what you are basing that on. For me his heavyweight record is not all that, has fought two top ten guys, one was Valuev and the other kicked his backside a couple of weeks ago. His cruiserweight time was some years ago, for me he can't live on this for ever.

I remain unconvinced Khan is the real deal but in Paulie, McLoskey, Maidina and Kotelnik he is fighting and beating top ten guys in his division. Obviously all subjective but at the minute personally can't see an argument to have Haye above Khan

There's nothing in it really jeff, but I remain unsold on khan. Haye may have lost the other week but it was to the top man in his division. He's also unified a division and moved up to win a title, and whichever way you cut it that's more than khan has done. Maidana and kotelnik are good wins, but paulie is a powder puff who was made for khan and McCloskey is a euro level fighter. Like I say I don't think there's a great deal between them but haye for me has achieved a bit more in his career. If/when khan unifies against judah I'll swap them round.
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Post by BALTIMORA Thu 14 Jul 2011, 1:16 pm

Dass wrote:
alma wrote:
rowley wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:1 Churchill
2 Wellington
3 Henry V
4 Montgomery (Field Marshall)
5 R J Mitchell
6 Frank Whittle
7 Logie Baird
8 Barnes Wallis
9 Guy Gibson
10 Nelson

List open to alteration due to being in a rush.

Find room for Fred Trueman and we might be able to take the list seriously

Surely Christopher Columbus should be in there, if the contestants of the Apprentice are to be believed

The guy discovered the Potato he deserves more respect he should be a top 5 nailed on!

Discovered it...or invented it?

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Post by Rowley Thu 14 Jul 2011, 1:29 pm

Fair enough SBS, see it the other way, think Haye gets a bit of a bump based on his cruiser exploits when even before the Wlad fight his heavyweight time was high on talk but without really delivering much in the way of ranked opposition and the like, for me with this whole thing is very much a "what have you done for me lately" situation and for me whilst I remain firmly a Khan sceptic his record in the last couple of years is superior.

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Post by Eyetoldyouso Thu 14 Jul 2011, 2:09 pm

Michaels, Sean wrote:1-10

Sir Geoffrey Boycott
Len Hutton
Fred Trueman
Michael Vaughan
Darren Gough
Darren Lehmann
Matthew Hoggard
Ray Illingworth
Ryan Sidebottom
Martyn Moxon

For goodness sake, Darren Lehmann is Australian. No list is complete without Brian Close & Chris Old is also worthy of a mention.

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Post by Michaels, Sean Thu 14 Jul 2011, 2:19 pm

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Michaels, Sean wrote:1-10

For goodness sake, Darren Lehmann is Australian. No list is complete without Brian Close & Chris Old is also worthy of a mention.

Lehmann is an honoury top 10 Yorkshireman as is Vaughan. Richie Richardson and Michael Bevan were 2 who just missed out.
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu 14 Jul 2011, 3:41 pm

1. Carl Froch
2. Amir Khan
3. David Haye
4. Ricky Burns
5. Matthew Macklin
6. Kell Brook
7. Nathan Cleverly
8. Darren Barker
9. John Murray
10. Rendall Munroe
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu 14 Jul 2011, 3:43 pm

coxy0001 wrote:.01 Donald
.02 MclRoy
.03 Westwood
.04 Poulter
.05 McDowell
.06 Casey
.07 Rose
.08 Fisher
.09 Davis
.10 Rock

Thanks, Coxy

Donald above McIlroy is harsh on Rory and GMac as low as 5th? Coxy have a word with yourself! Wink
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Post by Scottrf Thu 14 Jul 2011, 3:43 pm

Donald is the world #1 to be fair.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu 14 Jul 2011, 3:48 pm

He is but that seems to be changing pretty regularly since the Tiger was toppled. Straying away from boxing but I think their is to much credit given for tour victories. Some of the top players use these to fine tune their game.
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Post by Scottrf Thu 14 Jul 2011, 3:50 pm

The major's are where it counts, and Rory has a recent #1 and #2 to be fair, you could be right.

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