Does this happen in the media in other countries?

screamingaddabs wrote:As someone said before on a different thread, it's always ex Aussie coaches/players.

I call it Campese syndrome

greybeard wrote:Are there journalists everywhere ready to ignore 95% of an interview and write "X sticks the boot in to Y" all based on one sentence... yes.

Toadfish wrote:Just seen this story on the BBC Sport website this morning. I’m sure it’s not the first article like this I’ve seen recently but struggling to think who else has come out with this sort of thing. As far as I am concerned there is only really one stand out team going into this year’s world cup and so these stories could appear about pretty much every country.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/14334130.stm

England will not win Rugby World Cup - Eddie Jones

Former Australia coach Eddie Jones has said that England have a weakness at half-back which means they will not win the Rugby World Cup.
"I don't think Ben Youngs is a Test half-back," Jones told BBC Radio 5 live. "He is good on go-forward ball but when the ball gets slow he struggles to make decisions and I think Toby Flood is the same, which is a big weakness. "That combination means I don't think they can win the World Cup."

There seems to be quite a diverse crowd here on 606v2 so my question is this. Does this type of story appear in other countries media too? Is Austin Healey doing an interview in Fiji telling them they haven’t got a hope in hell? Is Francois Pienaar doing the same thing in Scotland?

Toadfish wrote:

Former Australia coach Eddie Jones has said that England have a weakness at half-back which means they will not win the Rugby World Cup.
"I don't think Ben Youngs is a Test half-back," Jones told BBC Radio 5 live. "He is good on go-forward ball but when the ball gets slow he struggles to make decisions and I think Toby Flood is the same, which is a big weakness. "That combination means I don't think they can win the World Cup."

Manu's Boxing Coach wrote:So England's problem with slow ball is lack of creative options in the centre not the half backs.

Toadfish wrote:Who's upset? I happen to agree with him about our chances although not his reasoning. All I wanted to know was if these types of headlines hit the media in other countries? Anyone got any examples if they have?

OzT wrote:So you went drinking last night and didn't invite the 606'ers huh??

Fine.

Manu's Boxing Coach wrote:
However it most be a lot easier for the likes or Sexton to know out side him he has got BOD to rely on, and the same with Cooper with players like Kurtley Beale to know he doesn't have to be the only creative threat with Genia. When if you think about it if I was Flood or Youngs I would feel a lot of responsibility knowing when they look outside of them they see Hape and Tindall. No one really to share any creative responsibility with.

roddersm wrote:

Manu's Boxing Coach wrote:
However it most be a lot easier for the likes or Sexton to know out side him he has got BOD to rely on, and the same with Cooper with players like Kurtley Beale to know he doesn't have to be the only creative threat with Genia. When if you think about it if I was Flood or Youngs I would feel a lot of responsibility knowing when they look outside of them they see Hape and Tindall. No one really to share any creative responsibility with.

Manu that's an interesting point. However if you look at Sexton in the big games, he doesn't look for other people to share the responsibility, he steps up and takes control. O'Gara is the same. I'm not saying they never make mistakes but they're not the kind of players who go into a shell or lose their cool under pressure. Wilkinson is another example but I'm not sure if he can release the backline as well as flood.

Former Australia coach Eddie Jones has said that England have a weakness at half-back which means they will not win the Rugby World Cup.

"I don't think Ben Youngs is a Test half-back," Jones told BBC Radio 5 live. "He is good on go-forward ball but when the ball gets slow he struggles to make decisions and I think Toby Flood is the same, which is a big weakness. "That combination means I don't think they can win the World Cup." Youngs, who made his Test debut in 2010, has only 12 international caps but impressed when England beat Australia at Twickenham last November, setting up Chris Ashton's length-of-the-field try. He underwent knee surgery earlier this month but is expected to be fit for the World Cup. While he does not think they are likely winners, Jones does accept that England have some strengths which mean they will still be challengers at the tournament, which begins in New Zealand on 9 September. "Their pack will be very strong, their line-out and scrum will be good and they have pace on the wing in Ashton," he added. "They will be competitive because of their forward pack, but that's the case with England at most World Cups.
"Of the other leading sides, the Australian team is based around very young players and South Africa have not gone as far forward as they would have wanted in the last four years. "New Zealand should win but watching them play I think they are in danger of becoming too complicated for themselves. They play best when they use their athleticism and power." England, who face Wales in their first World Cup warm-up game at Twickenham on 6 August, played a behind-closed-doors game of 20 minutes each way at the Twickenham Stoop on Thursday.

There was a scare for Courtney Lawes as he suffered a neck injury and was taken to hospital for a precautionary X-ray but the Northampton lock was subsequently given the all-clear. Saracens wing David Strettle also had to leave the action with a leg injury. Team manager Martin Johnson said: "It was a good end to the week and the boys enjoyed having a run-out in a different environment. "Inevitably it was competitive and you wouldn't have it any other way. But to be honest the whole training camp has had that edge that you want from a group of players vying for 30 spots."

Kiwireddevil wrote:

OzT wrote:So you went drinking last night and didn't invite the 606'ers huh??

Fine.

It was work drinks . And budgets were tight - we bought booze from the supermarket and spent 3 hours sitting in St James Park drinking them/ throwing a Frisbee around. Extra entertainment was provided by a Saffa couple who spent an hour or so 50 yards away from us.

Kiwireddevil wrote:Extra entertainment was provided by a Saffa couple who spent an hour or so 50 yards away from us.

SafeAsMilk wrote:

Kiwireddevil wrote:Extra entertainment was provided by a Saffa couple who spent an hour or so 50 yards away from us.

How do you know they were Saffas? Do they have a unique style?

Standulstermen wrote:Haskell/Croft
Wood/Moody
Easter

Kaino
McCaw
Read

Elsom
Pocock
Higginbotham/Palu

Smith
Burger/Brussouw
Spies

SOB/Ferris
Wallace
Heaslip

France backrow could be anything except with Dusatoir ever present.
Out of that list i would suggest Englands backrow is the weakest.