Manu's work again?

maestegmafia wrote:

Draigoch wrote:Just seen picture's of England's kit unveiling. Has Ash the Splash been winding someone up in training? He's carrying a beut of a black eye!

Spoiler:

I see that Nike have had to remove the Maori Logos originally intended for the shirt.

There were never going to be Maori Logos on the shirts. It was suggested that there would be some on the training kits.

I thought the Maori logos thing was a pisstake?

Anyway, all the controversy has been shown to be absurd, that looks nothing like an All Blacks strip.

Werent the Maori symbols on the RWC training kit ?

It looks closer to what England played aganist Australia in where Ashton got his wonder try.

HammerofThunor wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

Draigoch wrote:Just seen picture's of England's kit unveiling. Has Ash the Splash been winding someone up in training? He's carrying a beut of a black eye!

Spoiler:

I see that Nike have had to remove the Maori Logos originally intended for the shirt.

There were never going to be Maori Logos on the shirts. It was suggested that there would be some on the training kits.

Yes they were...!

"Aside from the Red rose the kit will be all black but will have ancient Maori symbols and decorations"

http://www.rugbyweek.com/news/article.asp?id=31164

Notch wrote:Anyway, all the controversy has been shown to be absurd, that looks nothing like an All Blacks strip.

Wise words.

You know some people on here just want any excuse to have a go at anything to do with the England rugby team without having the facts in front of them.

nottins wrote:

Notch wrote:Anyway, all the controversy has been shown to be absurd, that looks nothing like an All Blacks strip.

Wise words.

You know some people on here just want any excuse to have a go at anything to do with the England rugby team without having the facts in front of them.

Awww, are all the beastly little colonials picking on you ?

maestegmafia wrote:
Yes they were...!

"Aside from the Red rose the kit will be all black but will have ancient Maori symbols and decorations"

http://www.rugbyweek.com/news/article.asp?id=31164

Where did anybody from the RFU say that ?

nottins wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:
Yes they were...!

"Aside from the Red rose the kit will be all black but will have ancient Maori symbols and decorations"

http://www.rugbyweek.com/news/article.asp?id=31164

Where did anybody from the RFU say that ?

To be fair hes right. They were all probably busy fighting with each other or writing resignation letters

If that is real then looks like Nike have reflected on the original decision and gone for something different. It's still hideous though.

TheGreyGhost wrote:If that is real then looks like Nike have reflected on the original decision and gone for something different. It's still hideous though.

True, the kits especially Nike kits, look a lot like soccer kits. I hope they still sell real rugby shirts for those of us old enough to look a little ridiculous in a modern dri-quick fabric shirt that is so tight. I might be able to get into one but i think i would need help to get it off again.

TheGreyGhost wrote:If that is real then looks like Nike have reflected on the original decision and gone for something different. It's still hideous though.

What exactly was the original design ?

I think that charcoal, being a diluted imitation of black is an appropriate colour.

TheGreyGhost wrote:I think that charcoal, being a diluted imitation of black is an appropriate colour.

Yea especially as they have already used a charcoal kit. Its looking more and more like a publicity stunt.

nottins wrote:

TheGreyGhost wrote:If that is real then looks like Nike have reflected on the original decision and gone for something different. It's still hideous though.

What exactly was the original design ?

There were no photos when the story emerged, but as the link above says the design had Maori Symbols and that Professor Ranginui Walker wasn't to happy about the use of traditional imagery.

maestegmafia wrote:There were no photos when the story emerged, but as the link above says the design had Maori Symbols and that Professor Ranginui Walker wasn't to happy about the use of traditional imagery.

Any proof of this ? Or just the words of a New Zealander ?

I hope you're not using "new zealander" as a pejorative adjective there nottins.

TheGreyGhost wrote:I hope you're not using "new zealander" as a pejorative adjective there nottins.

GG
Thats how i interpreted it and hence no reply...! Your grammatical analogy may well have confused him though, I think that if you really want a response you may have to simplify the QUESTION...!

Are you asking a question or making a statement ?

So no proof of this original design then ?

I think the question was meant to be asking how Professor Ranginui Walker, an All Black supporter and a Maori affairs political commentator, would know what the RFU and Nike were planning for the England away kit. Can't be 100% sure though.

Just to clarify, the first article I read on the new strips said the training strip was going to be the one with maori symbols - see here

It's kind of hard to get symbols on an all black shirt unless you copy the NZ Maori centenary shirt, which I can't find a pic of right now

how can they take that change strip to NZ?

what were they thinking? were they thinking at all?

it doesnt bother me at all, but, headslap!!!

nottins wrote:

TheGreyGhost wrote:If that is real then looks like Nike have reflected on the original decision and gone for something different. It's still hideous though.

What exactly was the original design ?

Uhhhh... no GG, it looks like it was probably always intended to look and anything else in the public domain was just speculation.

dogtooth wrote:how can they take that change strip to NZ?

what were they thinking? were they thinking at all?

it doesnt bother me at all, but, headslap!!!

Eh ? I presume you've seen the Wales and Canada RWC 2011 away shirts ?

nottins I think he is referring to the design rather than the colour.

robbo277 wrote:nottins I think he is referring to the design rather than the colour.

It's how the players wanted it.

"Based on player feedback, the collar has elastic within the neckline for the first time, keeping the neckline as close to the body as possible to help prevent shirt pulling whilst providing comfort. There is also a silicone gripper at the hemline of the playing shirt to help keep it tucked in and close to the body. The silicone hem features the word England in its design.

The clean white home shirt design features a subtle matt/gloss white check pattern on the front panel of the shirt whilst the change shirt has a matt/gloss black check in the same area.

The gripper panels on the shirt, to give players more control of the ball are now across the shoulders, pectoral area and stomach area of the shirt and arranged in a check pattern.

The iconic rose emblem is made from Nike Considered (recycled) yarn and heat-applied to the shirt to avoid puncturing and weakening the fabric.

For the first time the shorts feature a new flock hand dry print to help players keep hands dry during games. And the socks, which feature support material for the first time, have a no-contact toe seam and enhanced fit footbed to reduce blisters and improve comfort."

See here

I did actually like that Charcoal kit they wore previously. Should have kept that.

nottins wrote:

robbo277 wrote:nottins I think he is referring to the design rather than the colour.

It's how the players wanted it.

"Based on player feedback, the collar has elastic within the neckline for the first time, keeping the neckline as close to the body as possible to help prevent shirt pulling whilst providing comfort. There is also a silicone gripper at the hemline of the playing shirt to help keep it tucked in and close to the body. The silicone hem features the word England in its design.

The clean white home shirt design features a subtle matt/gloss white check pattern on the front panel of the shirt whilst the change shirt has a matt/gloss black check in the same area.

The gripper panels on the shirt, to give players more control of the ball are now across the shoulders, pectoral area and stomach area of the shirt and arranged in a check pattern.

The iconic rose emblem is made from Nike Considered (recycled) yarn and heat-applied to the shirt to avoid puncturing and weakening the fabric.

For the first time the shorts feature a new flock hand dry print to help players keep hands dry during games. And the socks, which feature support material for the first time, have a no-contact toe seam and enhanced fit footbed to reduce blisters and improve comfort."

See here

Wow...! I didnt know the rfu had its own fashion editorial department?

Do they give tips of what type of slacks go with a traditional green Barbour jacket and a chelsea blue range rover???? I have blue eyes...!

Ashton's swan dives were always going to backfire at some point. Probably does them in training.

I saw that Nathalie Portman movie recently and I can see where he gets his inspiration... Quite balletic..

People are still coming out with a load of rubbish about how they think the kit was going to look despite now actually having seen what it does look like? I guess facts have never been important to trolling.

snoopster wrote:People are still coming out with a load of rubbish about how they think the kit was going to look despite now actually having seen what it does look like? I guess facts have never been important to trolling.

Quite.