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Kiwi fans boycott
As reported tonight on NZ news, some Kiwi fans are bying the new AB shirt but are using black masking tape to blank out the Adidas logo.
Adidas have reported on "Close Up" NZ TV, that they will not reduce the price of the shirt as they pump much $$$ into all areas of NZ rugby.
Could the NZRU now live without Adidas who have now stated that they actually do more than just the 'shirt'?
Adidas have reported on "Close Up" NZ TV, that they will not reduce the price of the shirt as they pump much $$$ into all areas of NZ rugby.
Could the NZRU now live without Adidas who have now stated that they actually do more than just the 'shirt'?
welshjohn369- Posts : 450
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Crickey. I see Richie McCaw's wife is getting involved.
I suspect it's a giant PR disaster for her to start bringing up LV handbags at this point in time.
I suspect it's a giant PR disaster for her to start bringing up LV handbags at this point in time.
TheGreyGhost- Posts : 2531
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Bit stupid isn't it? I think adidas may require Sir Richard Hugh McCaw to part with this wayward lass.... 2-3 weeks I give it.
Adidas have done themselves a mischief here, they've thought they could get away with overcharging the NZ public. Good on the average kiwi for havin the wherewithal to stand up and say this is wrong. Now do similar effort x 100 for child abuse please!
Adidas have done themselves a mischief here, they've thought they could get away with overcharging the NZ public. Good on the average kiwi for havin the wherewithal to stand up and say this is wrong. Now do similar effort x 100 for child abuse please!
chewed_mintie- Posts : 1225
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Interesting that Adidas claimed that the pricing discrepancy was caused by "currency fluctuations". That could only be true if the market jersey price was determined at 2pm on the 4th March 2009.
TheGreyGhost- Posts : 2531
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No surprise really seeing the NZ public Whinging about something rugby related. Probably the same people who will be upping prices for accommodation etc. ripping off tourists.
If they wanna save money they could just buy Englands second jersey as it's quite similar if not a little nicer than the ABs first strip.
If they wanna save money they could just buy Englands second jersey as it's quite similar if not a little nicer than the ABs first strip.
GunsGerms- Posts : 12542
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A poor attempt leinsterbaby!
I think it is a rip off, of course it is, but replica jerseys always have been. Its a question of the scale of the ripoff. You don't need an All Blacks jersey to be a big All Blacks fan and I hope the fans in New Zealand vote on this by keeping their wallets in their pockets.
If people are happy to be ripped off, thats their business and Adidas will do very well out of it but I can't see why you would want to let them get away with it. A boycott is a marvellous idea.
I think it is a rip off, of course it is, but replica jerseys always have been. Its a question of the scale of the ripoff. You don't need an All Blacks jersey to be a big All Blacks fan and I hope the fans in New Zealand vote on this by keeping their wallets in their pockets.
If people are happy to be ripped off, thats their business and Adidas will do very well out of it but I can't see why you would want to let them get away with it. A boycott is a marvellous idea.
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"As reported tonight on NZ news, some Kiwi fans are bying the new AB shirt but are using black masking tape to blank out the Adidas logo."
Except it isn't a boycott if they'ye still buying it. Seems a tad pointless to spend all that cash then just blank out the logo. Why not try not buying it?
Except it isn't a boycott if they'ye still buying it. Seems a tad pointless to spend all that cash then just blank out the logo. Why not try not buying it?
Effervescing Elephant- Posts : 1629
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Carpe Diem wrote:"As reported tonight on NZ news, some Kiwi fans are bying the new AB shirt but are using black masking tape to blank out the Adidas logo."
Except it isn't a boycott if they'ye still buying it. Seems a tad pointless to spend all that cash then just blank out the logo. Why not try not buying it?
It makes no sense. They really don't care either way once the money is in their coffers.
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Exactly.
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In breaking news, Kiwi fans are cutting off their own noses to spite their faces.
TheGreyGhost- Posts : 2531
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leinsterbaby wrote:No surprise really seeing the NZ public Whinging about something rugby related. Probably the same people who will be upping prices for accommodation etc. ripping off tourists.
If they wanna save money they could just buy Englands second jersey as it's quite similar if not a little nicer than the ABs first strip.
A bit harsh LB. You can buy an AB's replica jersey for £55 in the UK - the same jersey was (before some NZ retailers opted to sell it at cost) selling for the equivalent of £105 in NZ. And the RWC version (ie with the IRB logo added) is going for £115 on the IRB website - £20 more than the equivalent Wallabies one.
Admittedly the RFU are selling their replica shirt for £93 too (the cotton version is cheaper).
Pete C (Kiwireddevil)- Posts : 10925
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A marvellous idea - invented by the Irish.
Pot Hale- Posts : 7781
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Kiwireddevil wrote:leinsterbaby wrote:No surprise really seeing the NZ public Whinging about something rugby related. Probably the same people who will be upping prices for accommodation etc. ripping off tourists.
If they wanna save money they could just buy Englands second jersey as it's quite similar if not a little nicer than the ABs first strip.
A bit harsh LB. You can buy an AB's replica jersey for £55 in the UK - the same jersey was (before some NZ retailers opted to sell it at cost) selling for the equivalent of £105 in NZ. And the RWC version (ie with the IRB logo added) is going for £115 on the IRB website - £20 more than the equivalent Wallabies one.
Admittedly the RFU are selling their replica shirt for £93 too (the cotton version is cheaper).
Yes but it's the world cup. Everyone is raising their prices. How concerned are the NZ public with extortionate hotel prices?
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leinsterbaby wrote:Kiwireddevil wrote:leinsterbaby wrote:No surprise really seeing the NZ public Whinging about something rugby related. Probably the same people who will be upping prices for accommodation etc. ripping off tourists.
If they wanna save money they could just buy Englands second jersey as it's quite similar if not a little nicer than the ABs first strip.
A bit harsh LB. You can buy an AB's replica jersey for £55 in the UK - the same jersey was (before some NZ retailers opted to sell it at cost) selling for the equivalent of £105 in NZ. And the RWC version (ie with the IRB logo added) is going for £115 on the IRB website - £20 more than the equivalent Wallabies one.
Admittedly the RFU are selling their replica shirt for £93 too (the cotton version is cheaper).
Yes but it's the world cup. Everyone is raising their prices. How concerned are the NZ public with extortionate hotel prices?
I suspect it depends if they're in the market for a hotel room or not
Just kidding, there's been a fair amount of criticism directed at those putting their prices up.
Pete C (Kiwireddevil)- Posts : 10925
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You can get the Wallabies one at a 10% discount off the RRP here at the 606v2 shop - https://www.606v2.com/t11371-606v2-shop-please-take-a-look
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Shameless Hobo!
Effervescing Elephant- Posts : 1629
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How much did the NZRU pocket selling the jersey making rights to Adidas? You would swear Adidas are the only ones making a packet out of this. How much margin are the stores getting on the jersey sales? They are all making a mint out of it. And they are hoping most of the 90,000 NH supporters heading over will by a jersey as a momento to bring back.
If they really want to rebel, just by a plain black rugby jersey.... or can you sell a jersey like that in NZ without infringing on the copyright of 'black' as a colour.
If they really want to rebel, just by a plain black rugby jersey.... or can you sell a jersey like that in NZ without infringing on the copyright of 'black' as a colour.
thebandwagonsociety- Posts : 2900
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Dunnes Stores in Ireland makes replica AB jerseys and sends them for around a tenner. Shop around.
GunsGerms- Posts : 12542
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Wouldn't it be simpler to just buy a 'classic' all black shirt with no logos or sponsors? Still, I guess its the principle of the thing.
Adidas have certainly done a good job in building up the All Black brand and associating themselves with it, would Canterbury or anyone else ever be able to muscle their way in?
Adidas have certainly done a good job in building up the All Black brand and associating themselves with it, would Canterbury or anyone else ever be able to muscle their way in?
Bathman_in_London- Posts : 2266
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Alternately you could ask why Adidas has been so willing to trade off virtually all goodwill with the fan base they paid heavily to buy in to. Not a clever strategy.
Such a clear, unjustifiable attempt to exploit a local market is not only tacky, but naive. There is just no way to justify a 100% mark up on a 90% mark up.
My personal feeling is that buying a replica jersey is a bit bum any way, and anyone who really wanted one who discovered that one could be purchased online from overseas should probably have just done that.
Such a clear, unjustifiable attempt to exploit a local market is not only tacky, but naive. There is just no way to justify a 100% mark up on a 90% mark up.
My personal feeling is that buying a replica jersey is a bit bum any way, and anyone who really wanted one who discovered that one could be purchased online from overseas should probably have just done that.
TheGreyGhost- Posts : 2531
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In a way I like what Adidas have done with the jersey itself over the years, I think they've kept in tradition and had some good stuff. I think if we'd signed with Nike they'd have screwed it.
The price is ridiculous especially as NZ wages are pants. Worried about the WC not just about people ripping off the foreign rugby fans, but the locals will get stiffed as well as they find everything has been hiked up.
Just a q for the Kiwi fans in the know about printing. Where would you get the official numbers printed on the jersey? And would there be anywhere in Europe where you could get the same done?
The price is ridiculous especially as NZ wages are pants. Worried about the WC not just about people ripping off the foreign rugby fans, but the locals will get stiffed as well as they find everything has been hiked up.
Just a q for the Kiwi fans in the know about printing. Where would you get the official numbers printed on the jersey? And would there be anywhere in Europe where you could get the same done?
disneychilly- Posts : 2156
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I dunno, the jersey from the Taine Randell days with the embossed black (silver) fern that made them look like cheap Dr Who villains was a travesty.
TheGreyGhost- Posts : 2531
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I say NZ fans should boycott it....i read an opinion online from a Kiwi that said to just buy a black t-shirt. Seemed sensible to me. I do find some of this sports marketing a bit tacky. I couldn't bring myself to buy that godawful change top for England.......and that after Nike talked the RFU into that embarassing grand slam video. And that after the monstrosity that was the purple shirt.
I think the only odd top i liked recently was the cream coloured number worn against Wales the other year!
I think the only odd top i liked recently was the cream coloured number worn against Wales the other year!
greenandpleasantland- Posts : 147
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Speaking of ridiculous pricing, I was in the Elverys Rugby Store in Dublin today-the Irish WC jersey is 100 Euros! That's ridiculous. Just a comparison-the AB 2011 jersey is 63 Euros and the AB 2011 WC jersey is 75 Euros, and the Canterbury shirts (SA and Scotland) are 63. Kooga, who have the Aussies and other teams eg Canada, are charging an exorbitant 85 Euros for their WC shirt. Nike (England and France) are 63 here.
Jeepers creepers. BTW the Irish WC shirt's material is like a thick rashie, I think it looks terrible! Stupid looking collar too-feel sorry for Munsty and Leinsterbaby!
Jeepers creepers. BTW the Irish WC shirt's material is like a thick rashie, I think it looks terrible! Stupid looking collar too-feel sorry for Munsty and Leinsterbaby!
disneychilly- Posts : 2156
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I think some people dont get the problem.
The problem is not the price of the jersey as such. Its that Adidas are charging NZ more than other countries AND then blocked NZers ability to buy online.(would have thought that to be just about illegal.
Personally I think buying shirts is a bit naff and buying the new one every time one comes out just crazy.
I bought my ABs shirt to commemorate the end of Athletic Park in 1999. When Wespac Stadium closes in about 80 years I reckon I'll get my next shirt.
The problem is not the price of the jersey as such. Its that Adidas are charging NZ more than other countries AND then blocked NZers ability to buy online.(would have thought that to be just about illegal.
Personally I think buying shirts is a bit naff and buying the new one every time one comes out just crazy.
I bought my ABs shirt to commemorate the end of Athletic Park in 1999. When Wespac Stadium closes in about 80 years I reckon I'll get my next shirt.
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Never owned an All Black jersey,never seen the need,never seen why.
To me rugby jerseys are always dirty,muddy smelly things.
i do somewhat agree with Richies chick, if you think its too dear just dont buy it, its the same reason why I dont drive a ferrari.......
To me rugby jerseys are always dirty,muddy smelly things.
i do somewhat agree with Richies chick, if you think its too dear just dont buy it, its the same reason why I dont drive a ferrari.......
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I own many rugby shirts many ITM clubs, super 15 but only Wales & NZ international shirts. I own all the Welsh provinces too. Why? Hard wearing material. Each to their own innit.
Oh I do not have an auckland or the Blues shirts, doubt if I ever will.
Oh I do not have an auckland or the Blues shirts, doubt if I ever will.
welshjohn369- Posts : 450
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nganboy wrote:I think some people dont get the problem.
The problem is not the price of the jersey as such. Its that Adidas are charging NZ more than other countries AND then blocked NZers ability to buy online.(would have thought that to be just about illegal.
Personally I think buying shirts is a bit naff and buying the new one every time one comes out just crazy.
I bought my ABs shirt to commemorate the end of Athletic Park in 1999. When Wespac Stadium closes in about 80 years I reckon I'll get my next shirt.
Think they've now backtracked and you can buy from USA again. Won't be bothering and will stick with my NZ top I bought back in UK 2 years ago for half the price I could buy it for in Christchurch.
Agree with the hard wearing quality of the old rugby shirts, my Scotland and Lions ones are over 25 years old but admittedly the collar has now gone on both of them
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disneychilly wrote:Speaking of ridiculous pricing, I was in the Elverys Rugby Store in Dublin today-the Irish WC jersey is 100 Euros! That's ridiculous. Just a comparison-the AB 2011 jersey is 63 Euros and the AB 2011 WC jersey is 75 Euros, and the Canterbury shirts (SA and Scotland) are 63. Kooga, who have the Aussies and other teams eg Canada, are charging an exorbitant 85 Euros for their WC shirt. Nike (England and France) are 63 here.
Jeepers creepers. BTW the Irish WC shirt's material is like a thick rashie, I think it looks terrible! Stupid looking collar too-feel sorry for Munsty and Leinsterbaby!
I think it looks crap too. Whats new. Actually preferred our jerseys in the canterbury days. I always buy last years jersey anyway. As long as I am wearing green at the game I don't really care. You can buy replica jerseys in Dunnes and Carrolls for less than €20. They're fine too.
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aucklandlaurie wrote: Never owned an All Black jersey,never seen the need,never seen why.
To me rugby jerseys are always dirty,muddy smelly things.
i do somewhat agree with Richies chick, if you think its too dear just dont buy it, its the same reason why I dont drive a ferrari.......
I suppose it is also easier to steal a rugby jersey than a ferrari?
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Any of our London residents care to answer Biltong's question?
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disneychilly wrote:Any of our London residents care to answer Biltong's question?
Are you planning something dusney?
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Got to see a man about a dog first...
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Mind you if you nick a Ferrari the getaways a bit faster.
Hey Welsh sounds like you've got a bit of a jersey fetish.
Hey Welsh sounds like you've got a bit of a jersey fetish.
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