Scotland v Argentina match thread

by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 25 Sep 2011, 8:16 am

First topic message reminder :

Well here we go. The game is nearly upon us. C'mon Scotland!

by maestegmafia Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:10 am

Wish Scots would stop giving possession away when they are trying to win this

by maestegmafia Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:10 am

counting down the clock

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:11 am

did anyone expect this game to be any different?

by Standulstermen Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:11 am

Arg number 9 is taking the urine witht eh amount of time he is taking at each ruck. Arg should boot long and ask Scotland to come after them. I think Barnes will get annoyed and penalise Argentina soon enough

Told ya

by Dominic Dicoco Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:12 am

Ouch.

by Dominic Dicoco Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:13 am

Huge mistake! Come on scotland!

by trebellbobaggins Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:13 am

How lucky is that from Scotland?

have to say Arg have been the better side. The missed kicks hurt them badly.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:13 am

thtas why tigers sacked him...what a willy

by maestegmafia Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:14 am

the biggest chance here

cm on scotts

by maestegmafia Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:14 am

whooops

by Dominic Dicoco Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:14 am

Contepomi way offside

by Cowshot Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:15 am

Just noticing the pitch seems remarkably undamaged given the conditions. Do they have some special mud in NZ?

Moment of truth...

Oh no...

by Redrage Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:15 am

Woeful

by flyhalffactory Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:15 am

Come on ref!!!!!!!!!!! Yards offside

by **Notch** Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:15 am

Parks misses the drop goal- game over? It wasn't set up that well. He wasn't very deep and from the angle- difficult chance.

Clock's in the red- maybe one last final throw of the dice!

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:15 am

argentinians mustve been offside but parks shouldve been further back and it was a bob kick

by maestegmafia Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:16 am

Why did they take off Jackson....?

He is a hundred times the player Parks is...!

by nathan Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:16 am

there are not many times i agree with GG, but i don't think Wayne Barnes has has a brilliant match!

by Standulstermen Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:18 am

Fair play to Argentina. Scored a try and thus deserved it. Sets up next week beautifully. Best of luck to Scotland in that game

by Shifty Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:19 am

Typical bloody Scotland though wasnt it, they play above themselves and have the better of the match, but cant do sod all with the ball and cant score points.

by maestegmafia Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:19 am

Oh dear....!

I would say bad luck Scotland but the change from Jackson to Parks condemed the result.

Well Played Argentina.

NOW SCOTLAND HAVE TO BEAT ENGLAND TO QUALIFY...!

by BATH_BTGOG Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:19 am

tough, but Parks had the chance to win it,

What the chances of Scotland beating England now!

by nathan Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:19 am

maestegmafia wrote:Oh dear....!

I would say bad luck Scotland but the change from Jackson to Parks condemed the result.

Well Played Argentina.

NOW SCOTLAND HAVE TO BEAT ENGLAND TO QUALIFY...!

didnt think parks did that bad.

by Mad for Chelsea Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:19 am

that was terrible from Scotland. Parks should have taken more depth and got in front of the posts. poor TCUP costing them the match.

by **Notch** Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:20 am

Game over! Argentina wil remember this for a long, long time. There were one poorly struck drop goal away from going out. Great courage from them. Vamos los Pumas clap

Can't help but feel gutted for Scotland- losing a game that close is so, so painful. Congratulations to both sides for a nail-biting game and commiserations to all the Scottish fans on here.

by Scottish Optimist Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:20 am

Gutted

by trebellbobaggins Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:21 am

Deserved win. JUst. The missed kicks hurt Arg,

Friend of mine reckoned Scotland are much better than Eng. I didn't see any sign there that they can put with the width and pace on Eng can.

Will be very interesting next week now. Lotsof pressure on Scotland. I bet it will be very very close.

by TheDukeofCool Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:21 am

Sack Townsend...... all that ball, and we were toothless

by Guest Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:21 am

what a match, what a contest, both sides gave that everything and I think either side deserved to win. Given the conditions I think both sides played well.

Thoroughly enjoyed that as a neutral.

Commiserations to Scotland fans, that game was there for you and losing it must really hurt. But full credit to Argentina, man is that one side taht just doesn't stop fighting for a win. ever.

by EnglishReign Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:22 am

Or they could've just passed the damn ball and not risked missing a drop goal. Scotland had better not turn up next week.

by flyhalffactory Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:22 am

Story of Scotland over the last two - three seasons...... so disappointing

by Gatts Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:22 am

Oh f1ck Scotland....well you are just going to have to go and beat the English !!!

by Guest Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:23 am

that was unlucky for scotland but good try from aregentina late on..

england vs scotland next week..

come on england!...

by Mad for Chelsea Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:23 am

what's the rules for teams tied on points? Points difference first, or direct results?

by **rodders** Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:24 am

Well done Argentina. Fortune favours the brave and they shirked a kickable penalty and went for broke. It was a great try and smart play by Contepomi.

Scotland had there chances but just lacked composure at key times. They butchered several overlaps with needless missed passes and well that drop goal set up was a shambles.

No time to drop the heads though. The Scots need to dust themselves off and go out and win next week. Braveheart

by TheDukeofCool Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:24 am

We had a penalty under the posts and Parks goes for a drop goal in the first.... should he not have run it first!!!!!!!! before taken the drop goal.

by HammerofThunor Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:24 am

Best thing for the pool? Still open and any of the 3 can go out/through

by trebellbobaggins Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:25 am

Reckon scotland can change their game and get the bonus point win over Eng?

surely a loose game like that would be just what eng want, lots of counter attack ball?

by majesticimperialman Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:25 am

Very bad luck Scotland for a very hard fought game.

Why did they put Parks on the pitch i dont know.

by Gatts Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:25 am

Andy Robinson must be gutted...Scotand have a habit of losing concentration in the last 10

by Guest Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:25 am

huge importance placed on next week's game now..

by Scottish Optimist Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:26 am

Reckon we've got it in us to beat England but no way with a bonus point. Do you think Georgia will help us out?

by Cymroglan Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:28 am

Contoponi was yards offside.

by **rodders** Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:28 am

Just seen the replay there Argentina were a mile offside for the drop goal attempt. The Scots forwards still butchered the set up though. They needed to drive in field again and let Parks drop back further. What a mess.

by Gatts Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:28 am

Will Argentina have a fit 22 to field against Georgia

by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:30 am

Can't comment just yet. Pain is too raw. Beleive me Wayne Barnes and dougie hall will endure my wrath.

by **Notch** Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:30 am

HammerofThunor wrote:Best thing for the pool? Still open and any of the 3 can go out/through

I think so! But Scotland now need a bonus point and hope either they deny England a losing bonus point or Argentina don't get 5 points against Georgia. Otherwise they are relying on a shock defeat for Los Pumas in that match.

I fully agree with Sean Fitzpatrick. Its about learning how to see games out. You let off for one second and you can concede a try.

by **rodders** Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:30 am

I don't think Argentina will lose to Georgia. No chance.

by Eclipse Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:32 am

2 decisions cost Scotland that game. Robinson bringing on Parks for Jackson and Barnes missing one of the most blatant offsides ever. If I was Scottish I'd be gutted!

by Mad for Chelsea Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:32 am

Updated with a couple of things I didn't spot first time around...

England 14 points
Argentina 10 points
Scotland 10 points

Points difference in that order.

scenario 1: Argentina beat Georgia with a BP.
For Scotland to go through they need to get a four point win over England (it's direct results the first tie-breaker) in which case they'd go through with Argentina.

scenario 2: Argentina win without the BP.
Scotland then need a BP win, in which case both them and England go through.

scenario 3: Argentina draw.
Scotland need to win or draw with a try BP and they'd go through with England

scenario 4: Argentina lose with losing BP.
Scotland need at least two points (draw, try BP AND losing BP or win) and would go through with England.

scenario 5: Argentina lose without BP.
Scotland then just need to come away with something (losing BP or whatever), in which case they'd go through with England.

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