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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 13:53

Apologies for another thread, but he has just announced this on Sky Sports News.

He said the Klitschko's have been off with the noises they've been making about being in contact regarding a fight.

Happy retirement David, there were fun times, but ultimately went out with a whimper. A shame, but a very good career nevertheless.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 13:54

He'll be back, mark my words.
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Post by JDandfries Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 13:56

As much as I dislike him, and don't really rate him as a person or a boxer; I can't see him retiring perminantly!

His ego is too inflated to let himself be remembered for giving Audley a title shot, and blaming a gutless performance on a poorly little toe!

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Post by Scottrf Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:03

Good luck to him.

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Post by HERSH Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:05

He's going into acting, lets face it his pretended to be a great champion long enough.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:09

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Post by Michaels, Sean Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:11

Union Cane wrote:*He's

Pedant.
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Post by sodhat Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:12

Union Cane wrote:*He's

'Union Cane - Grammar Police' has a ring to it. Make a good (awful, awful) TV show, you'd need a clumsy partner though, so Tino can be involved.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:14

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Post by Scottrf Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:14

Let's
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Post by Union Cane Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:14

Scottrf wrote:Let's
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Pedant.
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Post by coxy0001 Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:15

sodhat wrote:
Union Cane wrote:*He's

'Union Cane - Grammar Police' has a ring to it. Make a good (awful, awful) TV show, you'd need a clumsy partner though, so Tino can be involved.

Careful, Union today has shown he doesn't like anything to do with two guys doing anything together.

And Haye should probably never be allowed to utter a word of arrogance again, i felt like a used dirty whore after taking in his hype pre-Wlad.

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Post by HERSH Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:16

sHoWS What PEEple tHINK AbOUT haY

hee waS RuBbIsh
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Post by Union Cane Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:16

sodhat wrote:'Union Cane - Grammar Police' has a ring to it. Make a good (awful, awful) TV show, you'd need a clumsy partner though, so Tino can be involved.

Sounds good, although I wouldn't be involved in this particular case as it doesn't involve grammar but use of the wrong word entirely.
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Post by sodhat Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:20

Union Cane wrote:
sodhat wrote:'Union Cane - Grammar Police' has a ring to it. Make a good (awful, awful) TV show, you'd need a clumsy partner though, so Tino can be involved.

Sounds good, although I wouldn't be involved in this particular case as it doesn't involve grammar but use of the wrong word entirely.

I'm changing the title to 'Union Cane - Nit Picker'.

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Post by coxy0001 Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:21

HERSH wrote:sHoWS What PEEple tHINK AbOUT haY

hee waS RuBbIsh

Says you don't like wums on your profile..... I'd hate to think what it'd say if it said you don't like kitten drowners

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:22

Hope his acting career ends up like Joe Calzaghe's supposed one.

Considering the majority of the British public don't like him and almost the whole of the US never liked him. I can't see what he's gonna be much good at.
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Post by coxy0001 Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:23

sodhat wrote:
Union Cane wrote:
sodhat wrote:'Union Cane - Grammar Police' has a ring to it. Make a good (awful, awful) TV show, you'd need a clumsy partner though, so Tino can be involved.

Sounds good, although I wouldn't be involved in this particular case as it doesn't involve grammar but use of the wrong word entirely.

I'm changing the title to 'Union Cane - Nit Picker'.

"union cane - pit nicker" has a better ring to it

What next for Haye then? New boyfriend of the aids infected, gaping fannied, non existant bumhole (it just falls out) "woman" called Katie Price?

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Post by Rowley Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:24

Just goes to illustrate how low Haye's stock has fallen, a two weight Britis world champion announces his retirement and it causes nothing but a discussion about the proper use of grammar, how the mighty have fallen.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:25

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Post by Rowley Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:26

Union Cane wrote:*British

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Post by captain carrantuohil Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:30

If this really is farewell from Haye, it is only fair that a reasonably persistent critic of his should acknowledge that, to paraphrase a great man, nothing in his boxing life became him like the leaving of it. A gracious, dignified retirement statement, devoid of excuses or self-pity.

Would it really have been impossible for him to have earned the same degree of heavyweight fame and fortune while exhibiting a similar measure of classy behaviour?

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Post by JDandfries Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:36

He still sounds so indignant in his statement -

"Ultimately though Team Klitschko are a business and they rarely take on tough opposition, unless they are forced to."

I really doubt they see him as tough opposition?

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Post by Rowley Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:38

JDandfries wrote:He still sounds so indignant in his statement -

"Ultimately though Team Klitschko are a business and they rarely take on tough opposition, unless they are forced to."

I really doubt they see him as tough opposition?

You do nothing but slag two people off and then wonder why when they are in a position of power they don't fall over themselves to give you too good a deal. Who'd have thought it.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:41

captain carrantuohil wrote:Would it really have been impossible for him to have earned the same degree of heavyweight fame and fortune while exhibiting a similar measure of classy behaviour?

Fame, no. Fortune, I would say yes. All the "ugly, hairy giant" stuff with Valuev and the classless goading of a gentleman Champion in Wladimir lined Haye's pockets more than he would have had he been a gracious and pleasant human being in the buildup. I don't actually think he is a horrible man, just a cold, calculating businessman who very quickly realised his potential earnings from acting in a deeply unpleasant manner.

He would still have earned heavily, but not to the extent he has in non-fights with Valuev and Harrison and a unconvining tilt at the Champion, had he being the nice, gracious and humble guy he can be on occasions. I would say out of the 10 or so people I watched the Valuev fight with, 8 of them only watched it due to Haye talking the fight up in the manner that he did.

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Post by JDandfries Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:42

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
captain carrantuohil wrote:Would it really have been impossible for him to have earned the same degree of heavyweight fame and fortune while exhibiting a similar measure of classy behaviour?

Fame, no. Fortune, I would say yes. All the "ugly, hairy giant" stuff with Valuev and the classless goading of a gentleman Champion in Wladimir lined Haye's pockets more than he would have had he been a gracious and pleasant human being in the buildup. I don't actually think he is a horrible man, just a cold, calculating businessman who very quickly realised his potential earnings from acting in a deeply unpleasant manner.

He would still have earned heavily, but not to the extent he has in non-fights with Valuev and Harrison and a unconvining tilt at the Champion, had he being the nice, gracious and humble guy he can be on occasions. I would say out of the 10 or so people I watched the Valuev fight with, 8 of them only watched it due to Haye talking the fight up in the manner that he did.

I think you give him too much credit, he is no businessman, he is just a crass and classless individual, whom I for one, will be glad to see the back of!

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Post by dublfcynwa Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:45

It's funny the way team Klitschko are looking for another handy number off Haye trying to goad him back. Don't do it David you will only embarrass yourself AGAIN.
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Post by joeyjojo618 Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 14:56

Hes got a damn sight more money than you JDandfries. Presumably.

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Post by JDandfries Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:18

joeyjojo618 wrote:Hes got a damn sight more money than you JDandfries. Presumably.

PMSL - and that would bother me because???


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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:20

JDandfries wrote:
joeyjojo618 wrote:Hes got a damn sight more money than you JDandfries. Presumably.

PMSL

What the hell does that mean?

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Post by JDandfries Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:22

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
JDandfries wrote:
joeyjojo618 wrote:Hes got a damn sight more money than you JDandfries. Presumably.

PMSL

What the hell does that mean?

I am lead to believe it means p1ss my self laughing, or something like that! An alternative to the hand on forehead icon

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:23

JDandfries wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
JDandfries wrote:
joeyjojo618 wrote:Hes got a damn sight more money than you JDandfries. Presumably.

PMSL

What the hell does that mean?

I am lead to believe it means p1ss my self laughing, or something like that! An alternative to the hand on forehead icon

Oh.

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Post by JDandfries Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:23

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
JDandfries wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
JDandfries wrote:
joeyjojo618 wrote:Hes got a damn sight more money than you JDandfries. Presumably.

PMSL

What the hell does that mean?

I am lead to believe it means p1ss my self laughing, or something like that! An alternative to the hand on forehead icon

Oh.

Feel free to use it from now on!

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:25

OK thanks.

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Post by Rowley Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:29

JDandfries wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
JDandfries wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
JDandfries wrote:
joeyjojo618 wrote:Hes got a damn sight more money than you JDandfries. Presumably.

PMSL

What the hell does that mean?

I am lead to believe it means p1ss my self laughing, or something like that! An alternative to the hand on forehead icon

Oh.

Feel free to use it from now on!

Feel free not to.

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Post by sodhat Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:31

rowley wrote:
JDandfries wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
JDandfries wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
JDandfries wrote:
joeyjojo618 wrote:Hes got a damn sight more money than you JDandfries. Presumably.

PMSL

What the hell does that mean?

I am lead to believe it means p1ss my self laughing, or something like that! An alternative to the hand on forehead icon

Oh.

Feel free to use it from now on!

Feel free not to.

LMAO!

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:31

Don't worry too much jeff, no-one on here makes me laugh that much anyway.

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Post by Scottrf Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:32

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Don't worry too much jeff, no-one on here makes me laugh that much anyway.
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Post by manos de piedra Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:35

The basic translation from Haye seems to be that he talked to the Klitschko camp, the contract offered was not lucrative enough, so he will opt to retire instead.

Still not convinced this is much more than a ploy to try and make Vitali up his initial offer though.

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Post by Guest Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:47

manos de piedra wrote:The basic translation from Haye seems to be that he talked to the Klitschko camp, the contract offered was not lucrative enough, so he will opt to retire instead.

Still not convinced this is much more than a ploy to try and make Vitali up his initial offer though.
You're a hard bitten cynic, Manos.

I can see your next article, "Haye screams, 'The Klitschko's are such cheapskates they forced me to retire rather than get a job at Tesco to make ends meet!'

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Post by manos de piedra Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:51

DAVE667 wrote:
manos de piedra wrote:The basic translation from Haye seems to be that he talked to the Klitschko camp, the contract offered was not lucrative enough, so he will opt to retire instead.

Still not convinced this is much more than a ploy to try and make Vitali up his initial offer though.
You're a hard bitten cynic, Manos.

I can see your next article, "Haye screams, 'The Klitschko's are such cheapskates they forced me to retire rather than get a job at Tesco to make ends meet!'

I think Waingro has alread done that one.

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Post by Guest Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:53

I'm shocked, Waingro seems a big fan

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Post by manos de piedra Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 15:56

DAVE667 wrote:I'm shocked, Waingro seems a big fan

Yeah but last I heard from him it was the British people and their lack of support that was forcing Haye to retire. Probably not too much of a stretch to include the Klitschkos in that, especially as they seem to be ducking a rematch also according to his sources.....

Hopefully Lewis can talk Haye out of it. I hear he knows a thing or two about beating a Klitschko......

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Post by Herman Frotchlinger Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 16:04

Obvious he wants them to up their offer, otherwise why the indignance?


Personally I hope he retires, his last fight was so boring, let's be honest, he was gifted against Valuev, a decent fighter Haye but nothing special and safety first, fan non-friendly. Said Wlad was running from him but Wlad in all likelihood had never heard of him. Hope Vit retracts his offer, cos this is just free money for Haye. Giving a guy a shot who lost every round of his major title shot! Somebody needs to lead the way. Reform is needed. Meritocracy needs to come back into the system.


Still hasn't proved he's the best of the rest, but worse he's not prepared to do so.



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Post by Guest Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 16:12

Sounds like Lewis actually talked him into retirement. I reckon all that time in Montego Bay (was there any need for Haye to mention where he was staying?) was spent with Lennox saying, "Are you prepared to take some serious punishment from a genuinely hard man? Are you prepared to work like you've never worked before? Are you, more importantly, prepared to accept that you're no longer a big player in the division and be treated as just another challenger? If not, best hang 'em up, son!"

Herman wrote "Giving a guy a shot who lost every round of his major title shot!"
Wasn't it Sam Peter who got another tilt at Wlad after...oh yeah...losing EVERY ROUND against Vitali and quitting on his stool?

Bit of perspective required here fella.

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Post by Small Time Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 16:14

Well, good luck Haye, I absolutely nothing you.

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Post by manos de piedra Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 16:14

The problem is the Klitschkos are quite literally running out of viable options.

Here are the number 1 contenders in each organisation:

WBC: Chris Arreola - already battered by Vitali
WBA: Haseem Rahman - already battered by Wlad
IBF: Eddie Chambers - knocked out by Wlad
WBO: Robert Hellenius - only 16 pro fights


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Post by Scottrf Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 16:16

Supposedly Vitali is fighting Arreola again?

That was supposed to be Wlad's fight back in America.

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Post by manos de piedra Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 16:18

Interestingly aswell I should add, Haye is ranked no.2 by the WBA still which means a win over Rahman would all but garauntee him mandatory status vs Wlad/Povetkin. Rahman is ancient now and not that good to begin with so it would be easy for Haye to actually get another title shot.

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Post by Super D Boon Thu 13 Oct 2011 - 16:19

Hopefully he keeps his word. I will never shell out another penny for his fights even though I have only shelled out <1p for his fights so far.

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