The Aviva Cup

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Pool One	P	W	D	L	PF	PA	PD	TF	TA	BP	Pts
London Irish	2	2	0	0	57	41	16	0	0	0	8
Saracens	2	1	0	1	51	40	11	0	0	2	6
Harlequins	2	1	0	1	48	42	6	0	0	0	4
Worcester Warriors	2	0	0	2	25	58	-33	0	0	0	0

Round 1
Saracens v London Irish
Harlequins v Worcester Warriors

Round 2
Worcester Warriors v Saracens
London Irish v Harlequins

Round 3
Saracens v Harlequins
Worcester Warriors v London Irish

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Pool Two	P	W	D	L	PF	PA	PD	TF	TA	BP	Pts
Exeter Chiefs	2	1	0	1	49	40	9	0	0	2	6
Sale Sharks	2	1	0	1	44	41	3	0	0	1	5
Leicester Tigers	2	1	0	1	39	43	-4	0	0	0	4
Gloucester Rugby	2	1	0	1	42	50	-8	0	0	0	4

Round 1
Gloucester Rugby v Sale Sharks
Leicester Tigers v Exeter Chiefs

Round 2
Exeter Chiefs v Gloucester Rugby
Sale Sharks v Leicester Tigers

Round 3
Gloucester Rugby v Leicester Tigers
Exeter Chiefs v Sale Sharks

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Pool Three	P	W	D	L	PF	PA	PD	TF	TA	BP	Pts
London Wasps	2	2	0	0	55	33	22	0	0	1	9
Bath Rugby	2	1	0	1	42	42	0	0	0	0	4
Newcastle Falcons	1	1	0	1	41	44	-3	0	0	0	4
Northampton Saints	2	0	0	2	35	54	-19	0	0	1	1

Round 1
London Wasps v Northampton Saints
Newcastle Falcons v Bath Rugby

Round 2
Bath Rugby v London Wasps
Northampton Saints v Newcastle Falcons

Round 3
London Wasps v Newcastle Falcons
Bath Rugby v Northampton Saints

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Tie Breaker:

1. Tries For
2. Points Difference
3. Bonus Points

Tough group

Should have done the pools regionally, local derbies all round.

Ok guys cup starts this week so a refresher on the rules:

1. There is no prize money for winning the cup

2. Prediction bonus is available as per usual

3. Squad selection restrictions per usual, 8 EQ 4 minimum starting

4. Top 4 seeds advance to the semi's i.e. Group winners and the best placed runners up... where it will be Seed 1 v Seed 4 and Seed 2 v Seed 3.

5. If there is a tie at the end of the group stage the tie breaker will be as follows: 1. Tries For 2. Points Difference 3. Bonus Points

6. The final and third place playoff will take place at Twickenham

7. As in real life with the Anglo Welsh Cup, the final English Heniken cup place will go to the cup winners. If the cup winners happen to qualify by way of the league then this spot will go the highest placed unqualified team in the league (6th I think but could be wrong!!).

This puts some importance on the cup and should hopefully prevent it from becoming just a reserve team cup as it offers a guranteed spot in to Europe next year which will be hard to come by in the league with realisticlly everyone in with a chance still of finishing Top 5...

I'll add this to homepage, cheers SJE.

You might struggle with those separators if teams are level on points, as with only 3 games any teams level on points will have the same number bonus points.

1. Head to head record (if in same pool)
2. Points difference

would probably be a better way to go.

Just a suggestion which I won't be offended if it's ignored.

Will these pool tables be updated before this weeks matches so everyone knows if they have achance of qualifying as that might have an effect on team selection?

Will update the tables today lunch time Pete and your right on the tie breakers so will take your idea as the deciding factor

Current Seedings

1. London Wasps
2. London Irish
3. Exeter Chiefs
4. Saracens

Giving Semi's of:
London Wasps v Saracens @ Wycombe
London Irish v Exeter Chiefs @ Reading

No side is mathematically fully qualified yet although Wasps with a good points difference and home advantage this week are definately favourites to win Group 3.

Group 2 is looking like a straight shoot out between Exeter Chiefs and Sale Sharks with the winner of that game likely to top the group.

Group 1 sees Irish as favourites but they will need a win away to Worcester to be certain of topping the group with Saracens breathing down their necks.

The best runners up spot is wide open with Northampton Saints and Worcester Warriors the only sides no longer in running for qualification to the semi finals.

I didn't realise I had a chance of going through. Would you reconsider your selection SJE, so you could possibly do the Falcons a favour

It's a fix he cries! I'll play Vesty at TH if you do me a good deal though Flux!

I think I've done yee all a favour in our group with my selections in the cup to date!!

I'm in a weird position, where I wasn't that bothered about it, but I don't like losing!