Isn't Holy's record at heavy just as good as Holmes??
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Isn't Holy's record at heavy just as good as Holmes??
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I'd pick prime 1990 Holy to beat prime Larry Holmes.......although I'm a big Larry fan.....Holy was better than anything Larry beat..Holy at his peak would have been a nightmare for anyone......
I've been thinking Holy should be higher in the ratings than he is........Longevity, skill wise and record wise he seems more than a match for Larry...he even beat him before Larry beat Ray mercer......albeit an old Larry..
Considering Larry's best wins were a still game Shavers and a faded Norton.Witherspoon...unbeaten Cooney etc.....
when we review Holy's heavy record...Douglas.....A once beaten Tyson (twice)....pre-title winning Foreman.......Moorer....Holmes.....Bowe........Draw with Lewis.......unbeaten Stewart...Mercer........
It seems he has the better record........Not forgetting larry's lack of ambition 1984 onwards.......Page was certainly avoided as was Pinklon!!
Why is Holy near 20 and Holmes top 5 on lists.......I don't know why?????
Think I'll re-evaluate and have him top 10..for sure.
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I'd pick prime 1990 Holy to beat prime Larry Holmes.......although I'm a big Larry fan.....Holy was better than anything Larry beat..Holy at his peak would have been a nightmare for anyone......
I've been thinking Holy should be higher in the ratings than he is........Longevity, skill wise and record wise he seems more than a match for Larry...he even beat him before Larry beat Ray mercer......albeit an old Larry..
Considering Larry's best wins were a still game Shavers and a faded Norton.Witherspoon...unbeaten Cooney etc.....
when we review Holy's heavy record...Douglas.....A once beaten Tyson (twice)....pre-title winning Foreman.......Moorer....Holmes.....Bowe........Draw with Lewis.......unbeaten Stewart...Mercer........
It seems he has the better record........Not forgetting larry's lack of ambition 1984 onwards.......Page was certainly avoided as was Pinklon!!
Why is Holy near 20 and Holmes top 5 on lists.......I don't know why?????
Think I'll re-evaluate and have him top 10..for sure.
I
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40564
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Re: Isn't Holy's record at heavy just as good as Holmes??
Imperial Ghosty wrote:No it wasn't a heart attack.
Some serious ailment or another.
Then he visited a faith healer who put her hands on his chest. He felt the heat and recovered. Perhaps he saw the same doctor Dirrell visited. Or perhaps Evan Field knows something about it.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Isn't Holy's record at heavy just as good as Holmes??
I should know by now that any discussion involving Holyfield ends up with you dragging out the same Evan Fields argument every time.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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Re: Isn't Holy's record at heavy just as good as Holmes??
Everything is black and white with Azania....
Literally..
Literally..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40564
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Everything is black and white with Azania....
Literally..
Comment of the year, I salute you sir.
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oxring wrote:TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Everything is black and white with Azania....
Literally..
Comment of the year, I salute you sir.
Dont encourage Truss if you please Oxy
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: Isn't Holy's record at heavy just as good as Holmes??
I've read the arguments and gone round in circles thinking of my answer.
Holy executed a good strategy and demonstrated skill to beat tyson. Would he do the same against Norton et al? I think so, so my money is Holy. But could be either.
Holy executed a good strategy and demonstrated skill to beat tyson. Would he do the same against Norton et al? I think so, so my money is Holy. But could be either.
Happytravelling- Posts : 889
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Re: Isn't Holy's record at heavy just as good as Holmes??
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Everything is black and white with Azania....
Literally..
Shades of gray trussy. I like milk in my coffee.
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