Ireland U20s v Wales U20s - match thread.

[Cari]

First topic message reminder :

Venue: Dubarry Park, Athlone, Ireland.
Kick off: 7:05pm
Live on BBC 2 Wales and RTÉ Two from 7pm.
Referee: James Matthew (Scotland)

http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/matchcentre/match_centre_u20.php?section=overview&fixid=169258

Ireland:

15 - Shane Layden
14 - Barry Daly
13 - Foster Horan
12 - JJ Hanrahan
11 - Sam Coghlan-Murray
10 - Patrick Jackson
9 - Kieran Marmion
1 - Kyle McCall
2 - Niall Scannell
3 - Peter Reilly
4 - Iain Henderson
5 - Daniel Qualter
6 - Conor Gilsenan
7 - Aaron Conneely
8 - Jack Conan

Replacements:
16 - Des Merrey
17 - James Rael
18 - Jake Cawley
19 - Tadgh Beirne
20 - Jordan Coghlan
21 - Luke McGrath
22 - Cathal Marsh
23 - Christopher Farrell

Errrm, I can't find who Wales are putting out, but here's the squad:
http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/matchcentre/squads_wales_u20.php

[Notch]

Thanks for the updates people. I can't get this game in the pub here, and I like the U20s games - the lads usually just go out and play.

Anyone putting their hands up higher honours?

Wales have been pretty poor so far, but Ian Henderson, Jack Conan, Paddy Jackson and JJ Hanrahan have all been impressive from an Irish PoV. Jackson (10) and Hanrahan (12) are guys who you could be seeing more of very soon. Jackson already has played in the Heineken Cup, he scored a good try against Aironi.

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheUAFC#p/u/21/VpKBe1Qglqk

[Cari]

HT 5 - 3.

It's definitely all Ireland's game at the moment. Wales just need to stop giving away penalties for a start! Davies has been kicking well for them though, but that's not enough.

Ah! They're playing Teenage Kicks - one of the best punk/pop sings ever written!

[asoreleftshoulder]

Welsh defence is very strong but they haven't offered much else they'll hope for a big improvement in the 2nd half.

[mystiroakey]

is the england game on a channel guys

[Notch]

It's really disappointing for Ireland to be only two points ahead. We could have certainly scored more given our dominance and the lack of a confident placekicker just compounds that.

But Ireland have the wind behind them in the second half so we just need to put pressure on Wales, don't let them get any territory and keep doing what we've been doing.

[Morgannwg]

No offence but I seen Jackson last year, he was average then and still is. Your 8, 12 and 15 look good.

Our no.7 is carrying our back row. I can't single out any performers for us, neither could Shane Byrne!

I would like more updates from the England game aswell thanks.

[eirebilly]

I have heard that Englands U20 side is pretty strong Thurnor but i know nothing about them.

[Rory_Gallagher]

With both Hanrahan and Marshall Ireland look like they are going to be set for good 12s! Both seem like very similar players, and have so much to offer to both Munster and Ulster respectively.

[HammerofThunor]

Scotland not playing that bad but England really clinical and react very quickly to mistakes/holes in defence.

Yarde got a hat-trick (Pete will be pleased)

England game can be streamed from the RFU website

http://www.rfu.com/6Nstreaming?utm_source=mdm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=England+Under+20+name+side+to+face+Scotland

(No problem with a link to the RFU stream is there?)

[mystiroakey]

cheers hammer

[HammerofThunor]

BTW If people want me to stop posting on the England Scotland game just say. I'm just using this thread to keep up to date with Wales Ireland while I watch it.

[Cari]

Thunor - I wouldn't have thought there's any issue with an official link

[profitius]

With both Hanrahan and Marshall Ireland look like they are going to be set for good 12s! Both seem like very similar players, and have so much to offer to both Munster and Ulster respectively.

Chris Farrell from Ulster too. Hes on the bench but looks a good prospect. Hanrahan will end up playing 10 IMO. Hes a super player.

[mystiroakey]

3-24.

its gonna be a cricket score

[Cari]

BTW If people want me to stop posting on the England Scotland game just say. I'm just using this thread to keep up to date with Wales Ireland while I watch it.

I don't have an issue with the score updates

[eirebilly]

No keep us updated Thurnor

[HammerofThunor]

Two penalties to England reversed to Scotland due to chopsy English players. Tutt Tutt. Good to see the ref come down hard on it at this level.

[Cari]

ooh I'm getting excited for the grown up Six Nations now. They're looking at the biggy on Sunday.

Erm...what's the Welsh U20s Team Manager doing talking to the TV people...why isn't he in the change room?

[Notch]

With both Hanrahan and Marshall Ireland look like they are going to be set for good 12s! Both seem like very similar players, and have so much to offer to both Munster and Ulster respectively.

Chris Farrell from Ulster too. Hes on the bench but looks a good prospect. Hanrahan will end up playing 10 IMO. Hes a super player.

He really shouldn't. He's a natural inside centre. The best parts of his game is his running and passing game so let's not mess him about.

[Don Alfonso]

Hanrahan really dies look like the real deal. Our back-row, however, are doing Marmion no favours at all. I think he's been doing well given how much he's had to sramble about for the ball. They need to shape up.

Scrum going surprisingly well. Henderson has been brilliant, which I did not expect.

[Morgannwg]

Could be another 60 pointer for England against Scotland. How embarrassing for the poor Scots. I don't think we can beat England unless we get more players released to us.

[Cari]

A better start from Wales here...but then they give away a penalty and Ireland had the turnover anyway.

[maestegmafia]

still 5-3 ???

[HammerofThunor]

Any of the Welsh/Irish players got much time at the regions/provinces? Any of them close to first squad (as in 22/23) places?

[Hound_of_Harrow]

Cheers Cari, and thanks for opening the article.

Sooo, Hanrahan is this week's Dave Kearney

Seriously, Kidney has recognised a top performance by putting chilli mk2 into the senior squad. Momentum (recognition) like that can have a real positive effect, and foster belief in a player.

[HammerofThunor]

England being sloppy. Pretty much all the game is being played in Scottish half but no more scores.

[Cari]

Pause for an Irish shoelace adjustment...and off we go again.

Still 5 - 3 at the moment...

[Morgannwg]

Paddy Jackson run back and collects the ball and apparently that's superb. Goes to show how overated he is.

[Cari]

I think he was being praised there for keeping cool under pressure rather than skill.

[Morgannwg]

Happy Jones is on at 8. A very big unit for an 18 year old and a very good player.

[Notch]

Give over Morgan. He's having a good game.

[Cari]

Try coming for Ireland here if they can maintain the pressure, but they lose it, and Sam Davies gets away, but Ireland turn it over again and Jackson kicks it away - good kick.

[HammerofThunor]

Just seen the most bizaar penalty try. England attacking scrum at 5m. England going forward and ref gives a penalty. Robson gets the ball away but 'deliberately' knocked forward by Scot. Penalty try. Unless it was going to be given for the scrum penalty it's really weird. No way there could be any surety that a try would be scored out wide (other than we're awesome )
3-31

[Notch]

Jacksons kicking from hand has been good. He needs to be able to do that consistently week on week.

[Cari]

Ha! In the background, you could hear a crowd singing happy birthday to someone and doing three cheers.

[eirebilly]

Still 5-3 there?

[Notch]

Yeah. Somehow we can do everything except score.

[Cari]

Yeah it is Billy. Ireland almost got over again, but it was saved by a Welsh player. Scrum right under the posts now, and although Wales have possession, they've not cleared it away....oh now they have.

[HammerofThunor]

Low scoring due to equally matched sides? Or lots of mistakes?

Half time in Scotland

[wales606]

Luke Morgan looks good on the Wing for Wales

Im amazed that its 5 - 3 at 55mins

Playing into the wind and Wales are doing well.

[wales606]

Low scoring due to equally matched sides? Or lots of mistakes?

Half time in Scotland

Good Welsh defence and Ireland dominating possession.

[Cari]

Both sides almost exactly the same in terms of handling errors made. I do think Ireland were the better side int he first half certainly.

[Morgannwg]

We can't pass, we can't catch, we can't kick, we can't carry it into contact without spillig the ball.... Worst U20's team.

[maestegmafia]

Low scoring due to equally matched sides? Or lots of mistakes?

Half time in Scotland

whats the score up there?

[rodders]

Ireland have been totally dominant Hammer they just haven't been able to put points on the board. They've had loads of chances and it could come back to haunt them.

[Cari]

I think the fact we don't have a second team like the Wolfhounds is becoming obvious...

[eirebilly]

Frustrating to watch if your an Irish fan then?

[maestegmafia]

I think the fact we don't have a second team like the Wolfhounds is becoming obvious...

Why is that?

[Cari]

I think it would be Billy. They've had more scoring opportunities than the Welsh! They had two missed penalties at the beginning of the match, remember.

[Notch]

Cari it would be different players getting the chance with the A team- mostly older guys.

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