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Post by Kenny on Wed 21 Mar 2012, 4:56 pm

First topic message reminder :

Who's your favourite for this years title ?

One of the seeds ? Or will it be a qualifier ?
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 10:35 am

You never know though. 1 away now and in the balls.

Jones and Carter are in the middle of a horrific opening frame.
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 10:38 am

Stuck at work so i cant watch Sad
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 10:42 am

Matchu Stevens is through. Tasty semi between him and Ro.
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 10:42 am

Ro....

Laugh
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 10:48 am

Exactly. Saves me typing.
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 10:50 am

Wink

Really happy for Stevens but what a capitulation from Day.
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:00 am

I didn't see a lot of the match (2nd session +) but from the parts that I did see Day kept getting in and through a combination of bad luck and poor positional play couldn't make any frame winning breaks.
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Post by Kenny on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:00 am

Stevens does look good , well snooker wise anyway
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:04 am

He scored well but constantly lost the cue ball and made bad decisions. Instead of playing safety after loosing the cue ball he tried to force the shots and let Stevens in so many times. It was frustrating.
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:06 am

Ryan Day has no safety game I've decided. When he's had to get snookers to stay in the frame from what I've seen he's never managed to get one. Top 16 player yes but not Top 8 anymore I'm afraid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bendirs/2012/05/was_stephen_hendry_the_greates.html
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:12 am

How are Carter and Jones getting on?
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:23 am

6-4 Carter, will soon be 6-5. Dour low quality match so far.
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:27 am

And as I say that Jamie Jones smashes in a brilliant 138.
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Post by EdWoodjr on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:28 am

Quick teaser : Which ex-Crucible champ never beat Stephen Hendry in a pro tournament and never made a 147, not even in practise ?

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:29 am

John Parrott?
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:31 am

Obviously not Wille Thorne...

Ray Reardon?
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:33 am

David taylor?
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:37 am

Dennis Taylor?

Jamie Jones has a swagger around the table when he's in full flow. It's a delight to watch.
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Post by mystiroakey on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:38 am

well i know that john higgins only got a 147 very late into his carrer even didnt get one in practise.

obvioulsy he has beaten hendry and he has got a 147 - but had he at the point of him winning his first WC in 98!

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:41 am

And another brilliant by Jones again. Another century, this time a 132. Both total clearances. And here's the MSI.
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Post by EdWoodjr on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:43 am

He commentates.

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:43 am

Terry?
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:44 am

Yeah that would be Dennis, i have no idea where i got David from Laugh
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Post by gboycottnut on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:49 am

EdWoodjr wrote:Quick teaser : Which ex-Crucible champ never beat Stephen Hendry in a pro tournament and never made a 147, not even in practise ?

1977 World Champion John Spencer.

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:51 am

Whistle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Taylor_%28snooker_player%29
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 11:52 am

I will of course claim that i meant him Laugh

Must edit previous post Wink
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Post by EdWoodjr on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:02 pm

gboycottnut wrote:
EdWoodjr wrote:Quick teaser : Which ex-Crucible champ never beat Stephen Hendry in a pro tournament and never made a 147, not even in practise ?

1977 World Champion John Spencer.

Spencer made a 147 during the 1982 Lada Classic. Unfortunately the cameramen were on a tea break. The Nugget went on, later in that tournament, to make the first televised 147.

The correct answer is Terry Griffiths

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:05 pm

Yahoo
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Post by mystiroakey on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:07 pm

poor spencer lol

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:09 pm

Terry Griffiths never made a 147, not even in practice? Thats astonishing Shocked
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:17 pm

Played Snooker Trumps on the BBC Sport website. This is TG's description.

"Forget Fergie, Terry invented the hairdryer treatment. Set it on slow."
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Post by gboycottnut on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:17 pm

eirebilly wrote:Terry Griffiths never made a 147, not even in practice? Thats astonishing Shocked

Well Terry was never much of a heavy scorer. He was more of a grinder than a heavy breakbuilder like his Welsh colleague Doug Mountjoy.

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:21 pm

I know that, i did grow up watching them OK

Its just astonishing that he is the only player that has'nt made a 147 in practice, or at least the only honest one Very Happy
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Post by gboycottnut on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:22 pm

eirebilly wrote:I know that, i did grow up watching them OK

Its just astonishing that he is the only player that has'nt made a 147 in practice, or at least the only honest one Very Happy

It really isn't astonishing as such because Terry probably spent more time preparing for a match by practicing the art of safety play and learning about the usage of negative containing safety tactics in order to keep a match as long as possible so that it can go on well past the midnight hour.

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:26 pm

Must have been fun when he played Cliff Thorburn then...

Carter 7-6 Jones.
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:29 pm

Terry Grffiths was not always such a negative player though now was he.

You make it out as if he was a pot one red play safe kind of guy. Terry has many century breaks to his name and many 70+ breaks to his name.

Honestly, did you watch him much at all? His cue ball control was exceptional so i find it very astonishing that he has never got a 147 in practice.
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:31 pm

Like Rory McLeod then

"Rory deciding to make safe his break of 7..."
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Post by gboycottnut on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:34 pm

eirebilly wrote:Terry Grffiths was not always such a negative player though now was he.

You make it out as if he was a pot one red play safe kind of guy. Terry has many century breaks to his name and many 70+ breaks to his name.

Honestly, did you watch him much at all? His cue ball control was exceptional so i find it very astonishing that he has never got a 147 in practice.


Yes I did watch Terry Griffiths play a lot of his matches in the early 1980's when he was in his prime then and though he could score 70+ breaks he was better player when he grinded out wins like what Cliff Thorburn did in the 1983 WC, rather than by winning matches through making heavy breaks in every frame.

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:35 pm

Snooker isn't all about heavy breaks in each and every frame though.
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:38 pm

No its not TSC and i am not sure that he understands that.

I can accept that Terry didnt make a 147 in competition as not many do but in practice i cant think of any top player who has said that they havent made one in practice.

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Post by EdWoodjr on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:39 pm

People who are old enough may well remember Terry's 2nd round encounter with Thorburn in 1983 that had the 147 and the 3.51 am finish but, for me, Griffiths' 1979 semi-final with Eddie Charlton was every bit as brutal and had to be seen to be believed ( but, of course, for all the wrong reasons ).

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Post by gboycottnut on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:41 pm

eirebilly wrote:No its not TSC and i am not sure that he understands that.

I can accept that Terry didnt make a 147 in competition as not many do but in practice i cant think of any top player who has said that they havent made one in practice.


Yes I do understand that, as I have played the game a lot since the early 1980's and I have watched the game on TV keenly as well.

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Post by mystiroakey on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:53 pm

higgins openly admited well into his carrer that he never made a 147 in any circumstances- therefor i can certainly believe that terry griffiths hasnt. And the fact is he is the mundane type of player.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:53 pm

I somehow doubt that now gboycottnut.

Cant wait for Robbo - Ronnie

That has the makings of a very close match and an absolute classic in it Very Happy
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Post by EdWoodjr on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:54 pm

I don't think John Higgins made a 147 either until shortly before or after he won his first World title in 1998.
I'm sure Dennis Taylor never made one unless he made one as an old man. In fact Mark Selby made more centuries last season than Taylor made in his entire career.

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 12:59 pm

I still think Ro will win Smile

The question was both about not making a 147 and never beating Stephen Hendry. I'm sure there are a lot of players who've done one but not the other.
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 1:02 pm

TSC wrote:I still think Ro will win Smile


Going out on a limb again Laugh
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 1:07 pm

9-6 Carter now. Starting to get away from Jones.
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 02 May 2012, 1:08 pm

I would not bank against this one going the distance but i doubt that it will be a late one.

Ronnie was averaging 18 sec per shot and Robbo 23. Thats not bad going Smile
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 May 2012, 1:10 pm

It's not shot time that counts though. If it was, Tony Drago would be a 20x World Champion.
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