The Jeff run-in

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Another exciting prospect in view:

Current table:

Sunday, 22 April 2012 15:54 UK
Team P W D L F A BP PTS
1 Harlequins 21 16 1 4 502 379 5 71
2 Leicester 21 14 1 6 619 472 12 70
3 Saracens 21 15 1 5 449 328 6 68
4 Northampton 21 13 0 8 497 360 8 60
5 Exeter 21 12 0 9 414 381 11 59
6 Sale 21 10 0 11 443 514 9 49
7 Bath 21 9 0 12 362 384 8 44
8 Gloucester 21 8 1 12 438 455 10 44
9 London Irish 21 7 1 13 462 498 11 41
10 Worcester 21 7 1 13 308 406 6 36
11 Wasps 21 6 0 15 353 488 8 32
12 Newcastle 21 5 2 14 337 519 4 28


Sunday, 25 March 2012 17:01 UK

	Team	P	W	D	L	F	A	BP	PTS
1	Harlequins	18	14	1	3	412	300	4	62
2	Saracens	18	13	1	4	393	282	5	59
3	Leicester	18	11	1	6	498	405	9	55
4	Northampton	18	11	0	7	432	304	8	52
5	Exeter	18	10	0	8	350	326	9	49
6	Gloucester	18	8	1	9	375	376	8	42
7	Sale	18	8	0	10	384	464	8	40
8	Bath	18	8	0	10	330	330	7	39
9	London Irish	18	6	1	11	407	436	10	36
10	Worcester	18	7	1	10	253	307	5	35
11	Wasps	18	5	0	13	298	414	7	27
12	Newcastle	18	3	2	13	283	471	3	19

Remaining fixtures:

Bath: http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/series/142402.html?team=241;template=fixtures
Chiefs http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/series/142402.html?team=386;template=fixtures
Glaws http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/series/142402.html?team=243;template=fixtures
Quins http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/series/142402.html?team=244;template=fixtures
Tigers http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/series/142402.html?team=246;template=fixtures
Irish http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/series/142402.html?team=247;template=fixtures
Wasps http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/series/142402.html?team=248;template=fixtures
Newcastle http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/series/142402.html?team=249;template=fixtures
Saints http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/series/142402.html?team=250;template=fixtures
Sharks http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/series/142402.html?team=251;template=fixtures
Sarries http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/series/142402.html?team=252;template=fixtures
Wuz http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/series/142402.html?team=253;template=fixtures

Let's see if Tigers can beat us at the Stoop (well, they can, and I think they will, but they've got to do it and they've got to take the game seriously to do so) and continue getting and denying us valuable bonus points before we assume they get 1st place.

I'm not assuming anything CJ, I believe that Tigers will beat you this weekend and get a TBP.

To top the table we need to beat you and Bath and rely on Sharks getting a result in round 22.

Or you can beat us and hope we don't get any BPs whilst getting your own, then it doesn't matter if Quins beat Sale (which I'd hope we do)

We are on 65 points, so even with two TBP wins can only get to 75pts. (And 15 wins)

If you then beat Sale (even with no bonus pts) you have 75pts (and 17 wins).

In which case I do not see you topping the table, sorry

Brendan wrote:That is why I think If tigers get top it doesn't matter who gets 4th as tigers will win. of course Exeter if they lost the payoffs by 100+ points they wouldn't care they would be there which is amazing as it is

Brendan, could not have put it better myself

Ozzy3213 wrote:I'm not assuming anything CJ, I believe that Tigers will beat you this weekend and get a TBP.

I can see them beating us but can not see a tbp. We've only given away one tbp all season, to Sale randomly! (And tbf we still won and scored 6 of our own).

Saturday, 5 May 2012
Leicester v Bath, 14:00
London Irish v Gloucester, 14:00
Northampton v Worcester, 14:00
Sale v Harlequins, 14:00
Saracens v Exeter, 14:00
Wasps v Newcastle, 14:00

Teams in bold are my predicted winners
Team in bold italicised would be TBP predictions

And I'm completely wimping and fudging it on the Sarries v Chiefs game. I haven't a clue although I'd prefer an away win.

Sunday, 22 April 2012 15:54 UK
Team P W D L F A BP PTS
1 Harlequins 21 16 1 4 502 379 5 71
2 Leicester 21 14 1 6 619 472 12 70
3 Saracens 21 15 1 5 449 328 6 68
4 Northampton 21 13 0 8 497 360 8 60
5 Exeter 21 12 0 9 414 381 11 59
6 Sale 21 10 0 11 443 514 9 49
7 Bath 21 9 0 12 362 384 8 44
8 Gloucester 21 8 1 12 438 455 10 44
9 London Irish 21 7 1 13 462 498 11 41
10 Worcester 21 7 1 13 308 406 6 36
11 Wasps 21 6 0 15 353 488 8 32
12 Newcastle 21 5 2 14 337 519 4 28

Can't see either of the top two losing, so they look set in those positions (if Tigers level Quins on points due to gaining a BP win where Quins fail to, Quins will still top due to number of wins). It doesn't matter if Sarries win or not, they've sewn up third and will face Tigers. The greater uncertainty would be who has to face Quins, but the fixtures definitely favour Saints and I'd be surpised if they didn't make it.

Hmmm.... Quins don't have a great track record with Friday night away games oop North, and Sale will be going all out for a win to secure Heineken rugby next season. I still think Quins have enough to win, but a slip-up is not out of the question. I'd feel so much better if we'd taken 1 or 2 bp from Saturday's game.

Well, Sale will obviously be confident after beating Gloucester but I am hoping for a Quins backlash for letting that lead slip

Poorfour wrote:Hmmm.... Quins don't have a great track record with Friday night away games oop North

Luckily it's on a saturday at 2pm

Portnoy....rubbish...

We will; beat wasps....but due to an absolute knacker at 10 we wont get the bonus point win so will not survive relegation.

If gold had been in since the start instead of 'Alan i couldnt manage a p-up in a brewery Tait' we wouldnt even be in this situation.

Big changes with Deano in next season....

Now that Gold's replaced Tait could he tear up Gopperths contract?

Gold signed him for another 2 years didn't he? Richards will be taking over. The best he could do if he want rid would be to say he isn't in Richards plans and give him the opportunity to seek employment elsewhere. If nothing doing then just don't play him and take the hit (don't most players have most of their money in appearances?)

Gold signed him? Frickin idiot!! Hopefully Richards will leave him out unless there's no alternatives. How's the Falcons flyhalf production line coming along?

I'm pretty sure Gold extended his contract. It's possible it was done before he came on board.

NB Looks like it was Gold

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/16875016

It was done before Gold came on board. Tait has a HUGE amount to answer for.

Blumbus23 wrote:

Poorfour wrote:Hmmm.... Quins don't have a great track record with Friday night away games oop North

Luckily it's on a saturday at 2pm

Don't know how I forgot that! Thanks for setting my mind at rest.

GeordieFalcon wrote:Portnoy....rubbish...

We will; beat wasps....but due to an absolute knacker at 10 we wont get the bonus point win so will not survive relegation.

If gold had been in since the start instead of 'Alan i couldnt manage a p-up in a brewery Tait' we wouldnt even be in this situation.

Big changes with Deano in next season....

GF. I went on home advantage

Also you are right. Deano will bring great changes to the Falcons next season.

Plus who knows how the season will pan out for the Wasps. All could be lost on the field of commerce rather than the rugby pitch.

Saturday, 5 May 2012
Leicester v Bath, 14:00
London Irish v Gloucester, 14:00
Northampton v Worcester, 14:00
Sale v Harlequins, 14:00
Saracens v Exeter, 14:00
Wasps v Newcastle, 14:00

Table
1 Harlequins 21 16 1 4 502 379 5 71
2 Leicester 21 14 1 6 619 472 12 70
3 Saracens 21 15 1 5 449 328 6 68
4 Northampton 21 13 0 8 497 360 8 60
5 Exeter 21 12 0 9 414 381 11 59
6 Sale 21 10 0 11 443 514 9 49
7 Bath 21 9 0 12 362 384 8 44
8 Gloucester 21 8 1 12 438 455 10 44
9 London Irish 21 7 1 13 462 498 11 41
10 Worcester 21 7 1 13 308 406 6 36
11 Wasps 21 6 0 15 353 488 8 32
12 Newcastle 21 5 2 14 337 519 4 28

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that no technically dead rubbers?

You are wrong, it's not

Come on Sale and come on Tigers!

Wasps vs Falcons - don't know who to support in this one. On the one hand Falcons have provided Tigers with some fine players (cheers!) but the first team is now increasingly foregin (1 Englishman in the backline?) where as Wasps are giving lots of young English players game time. Newcastle are playing a dull kicking game which is a pale immitation of Sarries tactics but just as boring where as Wasps are at least keen to run the ball and score tries. Then again Wasps are the DAMN PESTS who ruin everything given the opportunity where as Falcons normally secure us a steady amount of points. Hmmm....

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:You are wrong, it's not

Correct. The LI v Glaws fixture is dead. Any others?

On the one hand Falcons have provided Tigers with some fine players (cheers!) but the first team is now increasingly foregin (1 Englishman in the backline?)

Sam, Tait chose the route of the foreigners over the conveyor belt of local talent, something i think Deano will correct very quickly...and we have a bunch of talented kids coming through again.

Also...dont expect to keep enticing players away now that we have a real top recognised coach...and we come back up and start performing.

GeordieFalcon wrote:

On the one hand Falcons have provided Tigers with some fine players (cheers!) but the first team is now increasingly foregin (1 Englishman in the backline?)

Sam, Tait chose the route of the foreigners over the conveyor belt of local talent, something i think Deano will correct very quickly...and we have a bunch of talented kids coming through again.

Also...dont expect to keep enticing players away now that we have a real top recognised coach...and we come back up and start performing.

Hope so Geordie.

Today I was thinking of my youth and it reminded me of two of the best pieces of public art I have seen. Both at Civic Centre- Tyne - showing you which way you are going and that swans alighting one which is gobsmackingly inspirational.

Hang on I'll get the pics...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/marksunderland/4034920078/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mals-pics/6032730925/

Nice one Portnoy....

The 'your going down' sculpture looked much better when it had the water running off it - but they switched it off - hence the brown stains (hard water up here).


I wouldn't binn off Gopperth, but put him at 15.

I wouldn't binn off Gopperth, but put him at 15

or at 12 with Fitzpatrick at 13 with Hodgson at 10 and Catterick at 15.

TrailApe wrote:The 'your going down' sculpture looked much better when it had the water running off it - but they switched it off - hence the brown stains (hard water up here).


I wouldn't binn off Gopperth, but put him at 15.

When I saw the recent image of the Tyne god it didn't reflect my youthful recollections but the post-water cleansing image provides so much more.

Newcastle then and Newcastle now.