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Post by Union Cane Tue 08 May 2012, 10:11 am

The 606v2 Belt - The only one that matters

We're all fed up of the plethora of sanctioning bodies / belts that are ruining the game to the extent where nobody really knows who the 'champions' are any more.

So, to decide it once and for all, I'm going to introduce the 606v2 Championship Belt, and as it says at the top there, it will be the only one that matters.

We will follow the model that The Ring used to use; there are only two ways that a boxer can win the 606v2 title : defeat the reigning champion; or win a box-off between the number-one and number-two rated contenders.

Champions will lose the title in the following circumstances :

1. The champion loses a fight in the weight class in which he is champion.
2. The champion permanantly moves to another weight class.
3. The champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 12 months.
4. The champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 12 months (even if he fights at another weight).
5. The champion does not schedule a fight with a Top-5 contender from any weight class for two years.
6. The champion retires.

So, to get started we will need our rankings, and this, good people of 606v2, is where you come in.

I will need everyone to post their top 5 current fighters in each division, I will leave this open until Friday 11th May at which point I will collate the results and publish the initial 606v2 rankings.

We will start with the following 17 9 weight divisions.

Viva la revolution!

1 Heavyweight
2 Cruiserweight
3 Light Heavyweight
4 Super Middleweight
5 Middleweight
6 Light Middleweight
7 Welterweight
8 Light Welterweight
9 Lightweight
10 Super Featherweight
11 Featherweight
12 Super Bantamweight
13 Bantamweight
14 Super Flyweight
15 Flyweight
16 Light Flyweight
17 Minimumweight


Over to you then, top 5's please.


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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue 08 May 2012, 10:52 am

All 17 weight divisions?? If we're taking the time to clean-up the mess of multiple boards and belts etc, would it not be good to cut some of the belts out too? (particularly the lower ones)

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Post by Union Cane Tue 08 May 2012, 10:55 am

Good point TH, I wish I'd said something like "We will start with the following 17 weight divisions, although as many may struggle to name five light flyweights we may end up abolishing some of the lower weight divisions as time goes on. Viva la revolution!" now.

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Post by paperbag_puncher Tue 08 May 2012, 11:05 am

Its a good idea but might be a bit easier to do it one division at a time. Maybe one per day? 17 divisions in one go will be pretty time consuming and you mightn't get the response you would if you did them individually. Will be a bit longer before you can publish the results but just an idea.

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Post by Union Cane Tue 08 May 2012, 11:16 am

Ok, it is a bit of a big ask, we'll just do HW to LW for now.

(Apologies to anyone who's spent any time compiling their top five Super Flyweights!)
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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Tue 08 May 2012, 12:05 pm

Are posting or PMing them to you?

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Post by Union Cane Tue 08 May 2012, 12:45 pm

Post them on here please, who knows, it might even spark a bit of debate.
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Post by superflyweight Tue 08 May 2012, 1:12 pm

Apologies to anyone who's spent any time compiling their top five Super Flyweights!).

It's ok, I only had my own name down.

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Post by paperbag_puncher Tue 08 May 2012, 1:31 pm

Heavyweights
1. Wlad
2. Vitali
3. Povetkin
4. Kubrat Pulev
5. Seth Mitchell

Cruiser
1. Yaon Pablo Hernandez
2. Marco Huck
3.Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
4.Steve Cunningham
5.Denis Lebedev

Light Heavy
1. Chad Dawson
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Jean Pascal
4. Tavoris Cloud
5. Nathan Cleverley

Supermiddle
1. Andre Ward
2. Lucian Bute
3. Carl Froch
4. Robert Stieglitz
5. George Groves

Middleweight
1. Sergio Martinez
2. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
3. Felix Sturm
4. Dmitry Pirog
5. Matthew Macklin

Lightmiddle
1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Saul Alvarez
3. Miguel Cotto
4. Erislandy Lara
5. James Kirkland

Welter
1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquaio
3. Victor Ortiz
4. Andre Berto
5. Kell Brook

Lightwelter
1. Tim Bradley
2. Amir Khan
3. Danny Garcia
4. Lucas Matthysse
5. Juan Manuel Marquez

Lightweight
1. Antonio DeMarco
2. Ricky Burns
3. Richard Abril
4. Robert Guerrero
5. Kevin Mitchell

I won't pretend that, that was fun and I've probably forgotten loads of obvious candidates. It was like a history exam. Lots of thinking and lots of writing. I think everyone should vote though otherwise my ratings will be the official 606V2 ratings isn't that right Union?


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Post by Union Cane Tue 08 May 2012, 1:38 pm

Good stuff mate, thanks. And yes, as it stands the official 606v2 rankings are as above.

I was hoping for one or two more responses though to be honest...
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Post by paperbag_puncher Tue 08 May 2012, 2:30 pm

Union Cane wrote:Good stuff mate, thanks. And yes, as it stands the official 606v2 rankings are as above.

I was hoping for one or two more responses though to be honest...

No worries. I'm sure people will respond its just pretty time consuming.. Least I hope they will would be good to have our own rankings. Only one man could take on a mammoth project such as this so good luck if people do start responding..

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Post by manos de piedra Tue 08 May 2012, 2:49 pm

Heavyweight:

1. Wlad
2. Vitali
3. Povetkin
4. Solis
5. Haye

Cruiserweight:

1. Hernandez
2. Huck
3. Cunningham
4. Lebedev
5. Wlodarczyk


Light Heavyweight:

1. Dawson
2. Pascal
3. Hopkins
4. Cloud
5. Shumenov

Super Middleweight:

1. Ward
2. Bute
3. Froch
4. Andre Dirrell
5. Stieglitz

Middleweight:

1. Martinez
2. Chavez
3. Sturm
4. Pirog
5. Macklin

Light Middleweight:

1. Mayweather
2. Cotto
3. Alvarez
4. Lara
5. Williams

Welterweight:

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Ortiz
4. Berto
5. Alexander

Light Welterweight:

1. Bradley
2. Khan
3. Marquez
4. Alvarado
5. Garcia

Lightweight:

1. Vasquez
2. Burns
3. DeMarco
4. Abril
5. Mitchell


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Post by Union Cane Tue 08 May 2012, 2:51 pm

Cheers manos.

Are you voting to abolish the cruiserweight division?
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Post by as1079 Tue 08 May 2012, 5:01 pm

Heavyweight:

1. Wlad
2. Vitali
3. Haye
4. Povetkin
5. Pulev

Cruiserweight:

1. Hernandez
2. Huck
3. Lebedev
4. Afolabi
5. Wlodarczyk

Light Heavyweight:

1. Dawson
2. Hopkins
3. Pascal
4. Cloud
5. Cleverly

Super middleweight:

1. Ward
2. Bute
3. Froch
4. Stieglitz
5. Andre Dirrell

Middleweight:

1. Martinez
2. Chavez Jr
3. Sturm
4. Pirog
5. Macklin

Light Middlewight:

1. Mayweather
2. Alvarez
3. Cotto
4. Lara
5. Williams

Welterweight:

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Ortiz
4. Berto
5. Alexander
6. Malignaggi (put in a sixth as I'm not sure if your rules allow Mayweather to be in two divisions)

Light Welterweight:

1. Khan
2. Bradley
3. Marquez
4. Garcia
5. Judah

Lightweight:

1. Burns
2. Vazquez
3. DeMarco
4. Guerrero
5. Abril


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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Tue 08 May 2012, 5:50 pm

Heavyweight:
1.) Wlad
2.) Vitali
3.) Solis
4.) Haye
5.) Mitchell

Cruiser weight:
1.) Hernandez
2.) Huck
3.) Afolabi
4.) Ledebev
5.) Cunningham

Light Heavy:
1.) Dawson
2.) Hopkins
3.) Pascal
4.) Cloud
5.) Shumenov

Super Middle:
1.) Ward
2.) Bute
3.) Froch
4.) Dirrel
5.) Steiglitz

Middleweight:
1.) Martinez
2.) Sturm
3.) Chavez Jr
4.) Macklin
5.) Pirog

Light Middle:
1.) Mayweather
2.) Cotto
3.) Alvarez
4.) Lara
5.) Williams

Welter:
1.) Pacquiao
2.) Ortiz
3.) Alexander
4.) Brook
5.) Berto

Light welter:
1.) Bradley
2.) Peterson
3.) Khan
4.) Marquez
5.) matthysse

Lightweight:
1.) Guerrero
2.) DeMarco
3.) Vasquez
4.) Burns
5.) Mitchell

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Post by Josef K. Tue 08 May 2012, 6:40 pm

Heavyweight
1. Wladimir
2. Vitali
3. Povetkin
4. Haye
5. Mitchell

Cruiserweight
1. Hernandez
2. Huck
3. Afolabi
4. Cunningham
5. Lebedev

Light Heavy
1. Dawson
2. Pascal
3. Hopkins
4. Cloud
5. Campillo

Super Middle
1. Ward
2. Bute
3. Froch
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler

Middle
1. Martinez
2. Chavez jr
3. Sturm
4. Macklin
5. Pirog

Light Middle
1. Money Mayweather
2. Cotto
3. Lara
4. Alvarez
5. Kirkland

Welterweight
1. Pacquiao
2. Ortiz
3. Berto
4. Alexander
5. Malinaggi

Light Welter
1. Bradley
2. Marquez
3. Khan
4. Garcia
5. Matthyse

Light
1. Guerrero
2.DeMarco
3. Burns
4. Abril
5. Vasquez


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Post by School Project Tue 08 May 2012, 7:22 pm

Glad to see this come back (seeing as I brought it up with Sean Wink)

Heavyweight
1. Wladimir
2. Vitali
3. Povetkin
4. Adamek
5. Solis

Cruiserweight
1. Hernandez
2. Huck
3. Afolabi
4. Cunningham
5. Lebedev

Light Heavy
1. Dawson
2. Pascal
3. Hopkins
4. Cloud
5. Cleverly

Super Middle
1. Ward
2. Bute
3. Froch
4. Kessler
5. Stieglitz

Middle
1. Martinez
2. Sturm
3. Geale
4. Chavez Jr
5. Macklin

Light Middle
1. Mayweather
2. Cotto
3. Alvarez
4. Lara
5. Kirkland

Welterweight
1. Pacquiao
2. Ortiz
3. Berto
4. Alexander
5. Malinaggi

Light Welter
1. Bradley
2. Peterson
3. Khan
4. Marquez
5. Garcia

Light
1. DeMarco
2. Vasquez
3. Burns
4. Abril
5. Mitchell

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Post by zx1234 Tue 08 May 2012, 8:15 pm

Heavyweights
1. W. Klitschko
2. V. Klitschko
3. Povetkin
4. Haye
5. Adamek

Cruiser
1. Hernandez
2. Huck
3. Afolabi
4. Cunningham
5. Lebedev

Light Heavy
1. Dawson
2. Pascal
3. Cloud
4. Hopkins
5. Cleverley

Supermiddle
1. Ward
2. Lucian Bute
3. Froch
4. Stieglitz
5. Groves

Middleweight
1. Martinez
2. Sturm
3. Chavez
4. Pirog
5. Macklin

Lightmiddle
1. Mayweather
2. Alvarez
3. Cotto
4. Lara
5. Molina

Welter
1. Mayweather
2. Pacquaio
3. Ortiz
4. Berto
5. Malignaggi

Lightwelter
1. Bradley
2. Khan
3. Peterson
4. Marquez
5. Matthyse

Lightweight
1. DeMarco
2. Abril
3. Vasquez
4. Burns
5. Mitchell

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Post by bellchees Tue 08 May 2012, 9:22 pm

Heavyweight:

1. Wlad
2. Vitali
3. Povetkin
4. Haye
5. Adamek

Cruiserweight:

1. Hernandez
2. Lebedev
3. Huck
4. Cunningham
5. Afolabi

Light Heavyweight

1. Dawson
2. Hopkins
3. Pascal
4. Shumenov
5. Cloud

Super Middleweight

1. Ward
2. Bute
3. Kessler
4. Froch
5. Dirrell

Middleweight

1. Martinez
2. Sturm
3. Pirog
4. Chavez
5. Macklin

Light Middleweight

1. Mayweather
2. Cotto
3. Molina
4. Alvarez
5. Lara

Welterweight

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Brook
4. Ortiz
5. Berto

Light Welterweight

1. Bradley
2. Marquez
3. Khan
4. Peterson
5. Matthysse

Lightweight

1. Vasquez
2. Guerrero
3. Abril
4. Burns
5. Demarco

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Post by manos de piedra Tue 08 May 2012, 9:49 pm

I dont think Kessler is campaigning ast SMW anymore, or Guerrero at Lightweight for people including those guys in the respective divisions.

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Post by bellchees Tue 08 May 2012, 10:31 pm

manos de piedra wrote:I dont think Kessler is campaigning ast SMW anymore, or Guerrero at Lightweight for people including those guys in the respective divisions.

I asked Guerrero what weight he would be campaigning at in the Q & A and he said anywhere he could get the fights so I wasn't sure where to put him in. My problem here is he is too good not to be in any of the rankings but he hasn't achieved anything outside of Lightweight so you can't really rate him anywhere else without having fought there. With Kessler do you know if his stay is a long term one or just testing the water?

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Post by manos de piedra Tue 08 May 2012, 10:38 pm

bellchees wrote:
manos de piedra wrote:I dont think Kessler is campaigning ast SMW anymore, or Guerrero at Lightweight for people including those guys in the respective divisions.

I asked Guerrero what weight he would be campaigning at in the Q & A and he said anywhere he could get the fights so I wasn't sure where to put him in. My problem here is he is too good not to be in any of the rankings but he hasn't achieved anything outside of Lightweight so you can't really rate him anywhere else without having fought there. With Kessler do you know if his stay is a long term one or just testing the water?

I would Kessler is staying at LH. Better options for him there than SMW now and maybe the weight suits him better at this stage of his career.

Not 100% sure on Guerrero but I think his next fight is all the way up at welterweight for the interim WBC title which would make it unlikely he intends on ever coming back down to light weight. I also think he has the better options around the 140 and 147 divisions.

I agree with you on the ranking it can be hard to place fighters divisionally that move around so much.

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Post by bellchees Tue 08 May 2012, 10:57 pm

manos de piedra wrote:
bellchees wrote:
manos de piedra wrote:I dont think Kessler is campaigning ast SMW anymore, or Guerrero at Lightweight for people including those guys in the respective divisions.

I asked Guerrero what weight he would be campaigning at in the Q & A and he said anywhere he could get the fights so I wasn't sure where to put him in. My problem here is he is too good not to be in any of the rankings but he hasn't achieved anything outside of Lightweight so you can't really rate him anywhere else without having fought there. With Kessler do you know if his stay is a long term one or just testing the water?

I would Kessler is staying at LH. Better options for him there than SMW now and maybe the weight suits him better at this stage of his career.

Not 100% sure on Guerrero but I think his next fight is all the way up at welterweight for the interim WBC title which would make it unlikely he intends on ever coming back down to light weight. I also think he has the better options around the 140 and 147 divisions.

I agree with you on the ranking it can be hard to place fighters divisionally that move around so much.

I might have to add a 6th to each of the divisions in case some people can't be counted as they move up or down, I've also rated Mayweather twice as he is the best at Welter and Lightmiddle but I'm not sure he can be rated twice.

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Post by paperbag_puncher Wed 09 May 2012, 8:19 am

manos de piedra wrote:I dont think Kessler is campaigning ast SMW anymore, or Guerrero at Lightweight for people including those guys in the respective divisions.

Its tough deciding how to go about it in general. For example you have Solis in your heavy list. Ability wise I'd have him in there but he hasn't fought in over a year so left him out. Same in a few divisions wasn't sure whether to focus on simply the best ability wise or take activity into account. Being a flexible rankings list which I assume will be updated I tried to take activity into account where possible.

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Post by Union Cane Wed 09 May 2012, 9:18 am

Thanks for the responses so far chaps.

To address a couple of points raised :

I (or rather you) will be updating the rankings every couple of months, to keep them fresh and relevant.

Fighters can appear in more than one weight division, if the people of 606v2 think Mayweather is the best welterweight then he will be ranked number one, but if he doesn't fight at welterweight he obviously won't become 606v2 Champion.
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Post by manos de piedra Wed 09 May 2012, 12:17 pm

paperbag_puncher wrote:
manos de piedra wrote:I dont think Kessler is campaigning ast SMW anymore, or Guerrero at Lightweight for people including those guys in the respective divisions.

Its tough deciding how to go about it in general. For example you have Solis in your heavy list. Ability wise I'd have him in there but he hasn't fought in over a year so left him out. Same in a few divisions wasn't sure whether to focus on simply the best ability wise or take activity into account. Being a flexible rankings list which I assume will be updated I tried to take activity into account where possible.

Yeah I have included Haye and Solis in the heavyweights which is slightly controversial but as both have fights lined up in the not to distant future I thought I would include them. I felt either I include them and put them in the top 5 or else I leave them out entirely due to inactivity. But as both will be fighting soon I decided to include them. Other than Povetkin who has managed to forge a somewhat reasonable career at heavyweight outside of the Klitschkos there just isnt really anyone else at the moment that I could could consider superior to Haye or Solis. Hayes acheivements at heavyweight are fairly lightweight but still manage to stack up well against the likes of Boytsov, Pulev, Adamek etc

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Post by Union Cane Wed 09 May 2012, 2:13 pm

Quick update, top 3 in each division currently thus :

Heavyweight
Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Alexander Povetkin

Cruiserweight
Yoan Pablo Hernandez
Marco Huck
Denis Lebedev

Light Heavyweight
Chad Dawson
Jean Pascal
Bernard Hopkins

Super Middleweight
Andre Ward
Lucian Bute
Carl Froch

Middleweight
Sergio Martinez
Felix Sturm
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr

Light Middleweight
Floyd Mayweather
Miguel Cotto
Saul Alvarez

Welterweight
Manny Pacquiao
Victor Ortiz
Floyd Mayweather

Light Welterweight
Timothy Bradley
Amir Khan
Lamont Peterson

Lightweight
Antonio DeMarco
Ricky Burns
Miguel Vasquez


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Post by manos de piedra Wed 09 May 2012, 2:17 pm

In Mayweathers case it probably better to consign him to one division or specify he must be included in both. Looks a bit odd having him behind Ortiz at welterweight.

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Post by Union Cane Wed 09 May 2012, 2:30 pm

It's a tricky one, if Floyd can only be considered as a LMW as his last fight was at LMW then we can't have Paul Williams as a LMW as his last fight was at MW.

The idea is to reflect the consensus opinion of 606v2 so I'll leave things as they are at the moment. It can always be changed for the next round of voting.
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Post by manos de piedra Wed 09 May 2012, 2:39 pm

Yeah its tough given the weight hopping but with someone like Mayweather its just so obvious that hes got to be at least in the top 2 in whatever division he is in. I didnt include him at welterweight for example but I dont think having him at 3 there would be a genuine reflection of what people believe.

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Post by Union Cane Wed 09 May 2012, 2:43 pm

So let's say we only rank him at LMW, then he comes out of prison back down at WW where he would be unranked.

I wish he would retire, the awkward sod.

Wish I'd never started this now...
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Post by manos de piedra Wed 09 May 2012, 2:47 pm

Union Cane wrote:So let's say we only rank him at LMW, then he comes out of prison back down at WW where he would be unranked.

I wish he would retire, the awkward sod.

Wish I'd never started this now...

Maybe just include a blanket rule whereby the fighter is assessed on the either the weight class their upcoming fight is in, or if they dont have an upcoming fight then base them on the weight class their last fight was in.

Thus Williams would be at MW, Mayweather at LMW, Kessler at LH etc

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Wed 09 May 2012, 6:20 pm

Considering he has won title fights at both light middle and welterweight in the past year think it's reasonable to rank him in both divisions.

Heavyweight

1. Vitali
2. Wlad
3. Povetkin
4. Haye
5. Solis

Light Heavyweight

1. Dawson
2. Hopkins
3. Pascal
4. Cleverly
5. Diaconu

Super Middleweight

1. Ward
2. Froch
3. Bute
4. Stieglitz
5. Groves

Middleweight

1. Martinez
2. Sturm
3. Chavez jr
4. Pirog
5. Macklin

Light Middleweight

1. Mayweather
2. Cotto
3. Alvarez
4. Lara
5. Kirkland

Welterweight

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Ortiz
4. Berto
5. Brook

Light Welterweight

1. Bradley
2. Khan
3. Peterson
4. Marquez
5. Matthyse

Lightweight

1. Vazquez
2. DeMarco
3. Molina
4. Abril
5. Burns

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Post by alanqlm Thu 10 May 2012, 12:25 am

Heavy

1. W Klitschko
2. V Klitschko
3. D Haye
4. A Povetkin
5. O Solis

Cruiser

1. Y.P Hernandez
2. M. Huck
3. G. Jones
4. A. Tarver
5. S. Cunningham

Light Heavy

1. C Dawson
2. B Hopkins
3. J Pascal
4. T Cloud
5. N Cleverly

Super Middle

1. A Ward
2. L Bute
3. C Froch
4. R Steiglitz
5. A Direll

Middle

1. S Martinez
2. J.C Chavez Jr
3. D Geale
4. P Williams
5. F Sturm

Light Middle

1. F Mayweather
2. M Cotto
3. S Alvarez
4. E Lara
5. V Martirosyan

Welter

1. F Mayweather
2. M Pacquiao
3. V Ortiz
4. A Berto
5. P Malignaggi

Light Welter

1. T Bradley
2. J.M Marquez
3. A Khan
4. L Matthysse
5. D Garcia

Light

1. R Guerrero
2. B. Rios
3. M Vazquez
4. R Burns
5. A De Marco


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Post by Union Cane Thu 10 May 2012, 9:13 am

No cruisers, Ghosty?
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Post by alanqlm Thu 10 May 2012, 10:27 am

IS it ok to edit votes.... as due to recent events I think its perfectly understandable to remove Peterson from my Light Welter rankings?

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Post by Union Cane Thu 10 May 2012, 10:29 am

alanqlm wrote:IS it ok to edit votes.... as due to recent events I think its perfectly understandable to remove Peterson from my Light Welter rankings?

It is as long as you tell me that you've done it, I won't be checking on the off chance. Let me know when you are done.
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Post by hampo17 Thu 10 May 2012, 10:41 am

Heavy
W Klitschko
V Klitschko
Povetkin
Haye
Mitchell

Cruiser
Huck
Afolabi
Hernandez
Lebedev
Cunningham

Light Heavy
Dawson
Hopkins
Pascal
Cloud
Cleverly

Super Middle
Ward
Bute
Froch
Stieglitz
Groves

Middlweight
Martinez
Chavez JR
Sturm
Macklin
Pirog

Light Middlweight
Mayweather
Cotto
Alvarez
Lara
Kirkland

Welterweight
Mayweather
Pacquaio
Oritz
Berto
Malinaggi

Light Welter
Bradley
Khan
Garcia
Marquez
Judah

Lightweight
DeMarco
Abril
Burns
Guerrero
Mitchell

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Post by as1079 Thu 10 May 2012, 10:47 am

If memory serves me right, before Khan's 'loss' against Peterson, opinion was very split on who was number one at the weight. Given what has happened recently, would those people who had Khan at number one put him back in there, especially considering Bradley has done nothing but beat Joel Casamayor in the last 16 months?


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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu 10 May 2012, 10:49 am

Union Cane wrote:No cruisers, Ghosty?

It's a waste of time of a division as far as i'm concerned Union.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu 10 May 2012, 10:53 am

Heavy:

Wlad
Vitali
Haye
Chisora
Mitchell

Light Heavy

Dawson
Hopkins
Pascal
Cloud
Cleverly

Super Middle

Ward
Froch
Bute
Kessler
Direll

Middle

Martinez
Pirog
Chavez Jr
Sturm
Murray

Light Middle

Mayweather
Cotto
Alvarez
Lara
Kirkland

Welter

Mayweather
Pacquiao
Ortiz
Berto
Malignaggi

Light Welter

Khan
Bradley
Marquez
Judah
Garcia

Lightweight

Burns
De Marco
Abril
Mitchell
Guerrero

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu 10 May 2012, 10:54 am

Oooops:

Crusier:

Huck
Ofalabi
Cunningham
Hernandez
Lebedev

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu 10 May 2012, 10:55 am

Heavyweight:

1. Wlad
2. Vitali
3. Povetkin
4. Haye
5. Solis

Cruiserweight:

1. Hernandez
2. Huck
3. Cunningham
4. Lebedev
5. Afolabi

Light Heavyweight:

1. Dawson
2. B-Hop
3. Pascal
4. Cloud
5. Campillo

Super Middleweight:

1. Ward
2. Bute
3. Froch
4. Andre Dirrell
5. Stieglitz

Middleweight:

1. Martinez
2. Chavez
3. Sturm
4. Geale
5. Macklin

Light Middleweight:

1. Mayweather
2. Cotto
3. Alvarez
4. Lara
5. Williams

Welterweight:

1. Pacquiao
2. Ortiz
3. Berto
4. Bradley
5. Brook

Light Welterweight:

1. Khan
2. Marquez
3. Garcia
4. Alvarado
5. Matthysse


Lightweight:

1. Vasquez
2. Burns
3. DeMarco
4. Mitchell
5. Abril


I tried to do it on a who beats who and common sense ability rating also just pointing out guys Bradleys next fight is at WW so I believe he should be ranked there not at LWW anymore.


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Post by paperbag_puncher Thu 10 May 2012, 11:04 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:
I tried to do it on a who beats who and common sense ability rating also just pointing out guys Bradleys next fight is at WW so I believe he should be ranked there not at LWW anymore.

Its a tough one but I couldn't rate Bradley in my top 5 welters based on what hes done at that weight. At the moment I've only ever seen him shine as a LWW so thats all I can judge him on. Will reassess things after the Pacquaio fight.

Union I've edited my LWWs to omit Peterson.

1. Tim Bradley
2. Amir Khan
3. Danny Garcia
4. Lucas Matthysse
5. Juan Manuel Marquez


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Post by as1079 Thu 10 May 2012, 11:11 am

Have also edited my LWW's.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu 10 May 2012, 11:13 am

Seeing as everyone else is taking out Peterson I'll follow suit.

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu 10 May 2012, 12:21 pm

Heavyweight - 1) Wladimir 2) Vitali 3) Povetkin 4) Haye 5) Adamek

Cruiserweight - 1) Hernandez 2) Lebedev 3) Huck 4) Cunningham 5) Afolabi

Light-Heavyweight - 1) Dawson 2) Hopkins 3) Pascal 4) Cloud 5) Campillo

Super-Middleweight - 1) Ward 2) Froch 3) Bute 4) Steiglitz 5) Andre Dirrell

Middleweight - 1) Martinez 2) Sturm 3) Chavez Jr 4) Geale 5) Macklin

Light-Middleweight - 1) Mayweather 2) Alvarez 3) Cotto 4) Lara 5) Kirkland

Welterweight - 1) Mayweather 2) Pacquiao 3) Ortiz 4) Berto 5) Malignaggi

Light-Welterweight - 1) Bradley 2) Khan 3) Marquez 4) Peterson 5) Garcia

Lightweight - 1) Guerrero 2) Vasquez 3) DeMarco 4) Burns 5) Rios
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Post by Josef K. Thu 10 May 2012, 1:52 pm

Have removed Lamont Peterson from mine, Union.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Thu 10 May 2012, 2:27 pm

Heavyweight - 1) Wladimir 2) Vitali 3) Haye 4) Povetkin 5) Chisora

Cruiserweight - 1) Hernandez 2) Lebedev 3) Huck 4) Afolabi 5) Cunnigham

Light-Heavyweight - 1) Dawson 2) Hopkins 3) Pascal 4) Campillo 5) Cloud

Super-Middleweight - 1) Ward 2) Froch 3) Bute 4) Andre Dirrell 5) Stieglitz

Middleweight - 1) Martinez 2) Sturm 3) Chavez Jr 4) Geale 5) Macklin

Light-Middleweight - 1) Mayweather 2) Alvarez 3) Lara 4)Cotto 5) Molina

Welterweight - 1) Pacquiao 2) Ortiz 3) Berto 4) Brook 5) Malignaggi

Light-Welterweight - 1) Bradley 2) Khan 3) Marquez 4) Matthysse 5) Judah

Lightweight - 1) Guerrero 2) Abril 3) Burns 4) Vazquez 5) Rios

Stuggled with LW's as although Abril soundly beat Rios, I still think Rios beats De marco and Vazquez. Guerrera and Burns would try to keep him at the end fo their reach and possibly succeed.

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