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Post by ONETWOFOREVER on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:29 pm

Freddie Roach has dropped a bombshell recently giving the world a view of Manny Pacquiao's wild and hectic life behind the scenes. Roach explains that Manny was a heavy drinker ad degenerate gambler who was no stranger to nightclubs. This is SHOCKING news to me as I fought that Manny was the bible bashing humanitarian he was portrayed to be.

Roach had this to say i the Daily Mail....

'Basically all those distractions caught up with us in that last fight,' the bespectacled Roach said at the Wild Card Boxing Club on Monday before conducting a sparring session for Pacquiao.
'In the end, we had a bad night... our first bad night in 10 years ... and it was time for a change otherwise his career was going to be over.
'So he made those choices and to me they are all very good choices.'
'Manny has got rid of a lot of distractions in his life and he has some new distractions that are a lot better than the old ones.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2141183/Manny-Pacquiaos-new-lifestyle-makes-happier-better-boxer.html#ixzz1uN0uH7dr

I am happy to hear that Manny has changed his ways for the better but lets think about this for a second.

Heavy drinker? gambling addict? womaniser? nightclub frequenter? how hard is it to believe that he was not a PED user to boot. Just saying. Heavy drinkers and gamblers are not known for having strong conviction. Manny has not looked the same since he beat Cotto and Mayweather and others brought up the PED's accusations.


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Post by manos de piedra on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:34 pm

I think his drinking is a bit exaggerated. He was a heay drinker when he was younger I think but not really anymore.

His gambling and womanising was fairly common knowledge I thought though??

Dont really see the link to PEDs though....

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:35 pm

Freddie Roach has dropped a bombshell recently giving the world a view of Manny Pacquiao's wild and hectic life behind the scenes. Roach explains that Manny was a heavy drinker ad degenerate gambler who was no stranger to nightclubs. This is SHOCKING news to me as I fought that Manny was the bible bashing humanitarian he was portrayed to be.

Old news. Read this for a pretty good insight into his history and "misdemeanours"


http://www.amazon.com/PacMan-Pacquiao-Greatest-Pound-Pound/dp/030681949X/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:37 pm

SHOCKING!

Makes the PED accusations even more believable,

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Post by RANDY77 on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:39 pm

Until Manny actually fails a drugs test I don't see the point of 'discussing' the same old points.

It comes to something when Manny gets just as much PED related press than Peterson for Peterson giving a positive sample.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:39 pm

I thought Manny's problems were Marquez style...and the fact that Saturn was in juxtaposition with Uranus!!!!!

If Roach wants to look for excuses.........he's forgetting we saw the first two Manny-marq fights!!!!!!!!!

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Post by manos de piedra on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:41 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:SHOCKING!

Makes the PED accusations even more believable,

Why?

Hes fought Marquez three times and never once convincingly beat him over the space of 6 years. Do you not think its simply more likely Marquez has the ability, style and experience to beat him? I doubt its a case of Pacquiao deciding to ditch the PEDs every time he fights Marquez and get on the hooch and women instead.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:44 pm

RANDY77

Peterson obviously was caught unlike manny who still can't explain the extraordinary size of his head.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:45 pm

Onetwo......I think you're reaching Mate....

One doesn't have to lead to another......

Those kind of accusations should be treated with a comtemptable spinning back fist..

Innocent until proven guilty............

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Post by as1079 on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:48 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:RANDY77

Peterson obviously was caught unlike manny who still can't explain the extraordinary size of his head.

I've got a big head. Properly big, I mean, often been mistaken for a rugby ball, coconut, egg, and the Titanic (kids can be so bloody cruel). Don't think I ever took PEDs though.

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Post by paperbag_puncher on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:53 pm

as1079 wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:RANDY77

Peterson obviously was caught unlike manny who still can't explain the extraordinary size of his head.

I've got a big head. Properly big, I mean, often been mistaken for a rugby ball, coconut, egg, and the Titanic (kids can be so bloody cruel). Don't think I ever took PEDs though.

But are you an alcoholic, gambling womaniser? They're all linked you see? First you gamble to get money for the women. Then you drink to forget the women. Before you know it you're on the PEDs and your heads the size of "The Titanic"

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:53 pm

My wife can't understand the nature of my big head..

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:54 pm

I am not saying they are true but that these findings shed light on the whole situation especially the fact that he was a degenerate gambler. They are known for lying. I have studied the effects of addiction in the brain dealing mostly with left side brain reaction and counter reaction and people with gambling addictions fit a certain mould or type if you will.

It is always the case that they are more inclined to cheat in order to maintain their subsequent addiction.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:56 pm

They may shed light onto it If you are a wally!!!!!!!!!!

You not think that Roach is trying to sell Manny v Bradley....Basically giving his fighter an excuse for his poor performance so people can expect better!!!!...

You can't go twelve hard rounds If you haven't trained like an animal....

Come on..........

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Post by manos de piedra on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:57 pm

De la Hoya was a gambling womaniser despite his "Golden Boy" image aswell. He moved through the weights successfully and even had a big enough head to match.

Im not sure Pacquiao is a degenerate gambler either. Hes wealthy and likes to gamble large amounts. Its not like hes robbing grannies to fund his habit though.

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Post by RANDY77 on Wed 09 May 2012, 12:57 pm

Even if Manny was/is an addicted gambler, and your studies prove a link to gambling and lying. He still hasnt failed a drugs test. Or am I missing the point??

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Post by ShahenshahG on Wed 09 May 2012, 1:00 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:My wife can't understand the nature of my big head..

Shes probably wondering why its directly attached to your balls instead of a shaft

Think Manny should be innocent till proven guilty

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Post by Valero's Conscience on Wed 09 May 2012, 1:14 pm

manos de piedra wrote:I think his drinking is a bit exaggerated. He was a heay drinker when he was younger I think but not really anymore.

His gambling and womanising was fairly common knowledge I thought though??

Dont really see the link to PEDs though....

Me too, albeit i've mentioned his womanising more than once here.

I do personally think Manny is on them, or maybe come off them since Mayweather's been accusing him hence his performances lacking of late but I can't use his personal life as proof.


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Post by JabMachineMK2 on Wed 09 May 2012, 1:16 pm

ONETWOFOREVER clearly has a slight case of bias.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 09 May 2012, 1:17 pm

I'd like someone who has been in a ring like me...to disagree with me how a guy can possibly fight twelve hard rounds and not have trained like an animal...

I gassed after a round...

Steroids can't get you fit by themselves you have to work damn hard..

Like Bob Paris once said "You have to earn the right to take steroids"

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Post by azania on Wed 09 May 2012, 1:18 pm

Why cant boxers be as pure as catholic priests??? I'm outraged I tell a...proper outraged. Shaking my work pc in apoplectic rage. Grrrrr! mad

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Post by manos de piedra on Wed 09 May 2012, 1:18 pm

I think his only genuinely poor performance since Mayweathers accusations was against Marquez, a fighter hes always struggled with.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 09 May 2012, 1:40 pm

I haven't boxed at his level..but i'm sure Jabmachine would agree with my last post..

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Wed 09 May 2012, 1:42 pm

The reason Manny lost to Marquez is he can't fight boxers who don't walk forward and try to take his head off (Cotto, Margarito...).

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 09 May 2012, 1:55 pm

Imagine If the rt honorable d4 was still on here!!!

How many times would we see lines like.........

"If he was ever to grow a pair"......................on a thread like this..

Almost makes me wish for by gone days......ALMOST!! Cool

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