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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 10:37 am

England unchanged. Rampaul and Shillingford in for the Windies.

Windies win the toss and will bat. A great toss to win - runs galore today.

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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 10:39 am

If Jimmy gets it swinging, could be havoc
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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 10:40 am

Fidel Edwards dropped, Gabriel injured of course.

TEAMS
England: A Strauss (capt), A Cook, J Trott, K Pietersen, I Bell, J Bairstow, M Prior (wk), T Bresnan, S Broad, G Swann, J Anderson.

West Indies: A Barath, K Powell, K Edwards, D Bravo, S Chanderpaul, M Samuels, D Ramdin (wk), D Sammy (capt), K Roach, R Rampaul, S Shillingford.


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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 10:40 am

Didn't think they'd drop Bresnan. Conditions suit him here.
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Post by ShankyCricket Fri 25 May 2012, 10:43 am

Bresnan better option at Trent Bridge.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 10:45 am

If it doesn't swing then I can tell you now he won't be the better option.

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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 10:50 am

It always swings at TB.

It did before the new stand, and it does even more now its there.

Jimmy has 25 wickets at an average of 12 in his last 3 games there.

More to the point Bresnan also offers control
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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 10:50 am

Can't argue against Bresnan even though I really want Finn to play. If England win this test I would be slightly tempted to give Anderson and Broad and at least one of them the 3rd test off and bring in Finn and Onions or just Finn to keep competitions for places and give them a run out before the SA series.

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Post by ShankyCricket Fri 25 May 2012, 10:54 am

Fists of Fury wrote:If it doesn't swing then I can tell you now he won't be the better option.
It always swing at TB regardless of the overhead weather. I do think Finn should be picked at Edgbaston though and against the Saffers.

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Post by ShankyCricket Fri 25 May 2012, 10:57 am

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:It always swings at TB.

It did before the new stand, and it does even more now its there.

Jimmy has 25 wickets at an average of 12 in his last 3 games there.

More to the point Bresnan also offers control
So does Finn tbh and dare I say, more control than Bresnan. But at TB, I am fine with Bres.

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Post by hampo17 Fri 25 May 2012, 10:59 am

Slightly dissapointed Tino hasn't been given a go just for his enthusiasm. Hopefully I'll get to see a good afternoon of cricket after work.

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 11:12 am

Thanks. Comes of just having radio commentary. Thought Jimmy had c&b. Doh


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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 11:14 am

Not a great deal of swing.

It was Broad who struck, Anderson took the catch.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 11:18 am

Great stuff for Broad, continuing where he left off Very Happy
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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 11:21 am

Another chance, England looking good, just enough movement to cause a bit of trouble, need at least 3 wickets before 50 to restrict the WI with it a glorious pitch for batting and with the weather set fair for the next few days.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 25 May 2012, 11:21 am

I say England to win this inside three days Very Happy

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 11:22 am

Get the feeling here that Jimmy is going to take a few wickets here today. That was a difficult chance for Bresnan but he could have caught it.
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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 11:26 am

Have the impression that Barath rather gave it away, and there seem to be a lot of references to the ball going to leg. Are they a bit off line, or looking for swing that isn't there?

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Post by ShankyCricket Fri 25 May 2012, 11:29 am

Finn looking very glum on the balcony.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 11:29 am

He could have left it cowshot but they are the wickets you get early in an innings. There are definitely runs in this pitch.
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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 11:34 am

Vic Marks noting that Alim Dar is an Umpiring phenomenon, never seems to make a mistake. Good point. Given the trouble with Umpires in the last few years it's good to have a really top notch one around - especially one from Pakistan.

...cue several howlers!

eirebilly: Thanks.

Oh! Clean bowled!

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 11:35 am

Which yet again is why Finn should have played. On a good deck you need that little bit extra in terms of pace.

However, fantastic start by England.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 11:36 am

On the money Jimmy Very Happy
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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 11:37 am

Well done Jimmy, massive seam movement there, Finn would have loved it..

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 11:42 am

Jimmy exploiting a weakness in technique, by the sound of it. Did he see the weakness and deliberately exploit it, or just find it out by chance with a good ball? Not much experience in this West Indies side.

Can see Shiv being a real limpet in these conditions. Doubt he'll just throw it away.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 11:46 am

Edwards was all over the show cowshot, Jimmy had him guessing constantly. It was a great build up to the wicket and the ball that took it was excellent. A true bowlers wicket.
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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 11:46 am

Jaysus, Jimmy nearly gets Powell to play on, that was close.
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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 11:50 am

Oh good. Great news that Jimmy is bowling so well with his brain. Sign of a bowler in great form. Sign of a great bowler.

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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 11:50 am

not much shape for Bresnan

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 11:52 am

Bresnan keeps the pressure on with a maiden. Good stuff.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 11:54 am

Bresnan rarely gets much shape. Not sure where this notion that he swings it loads has come from. He gets a little bit of away movement, not much more.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 11:58 am

44 wickets in 13 matches says that he does do something right though?

Bresnan often gets bowlers to play loose shots but in the right conditions can swing the ball well.
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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 12:01 pm

I'm not trying to run him down, he is a very good cricketer, but just trying to put things in perspective. He has never been a huge swinger of the ball, but what he does do has proved very effective. It is just nothing different to Anderson and Broad, though, hence my calls for Finn to play.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 12:02 pm

Great stuff Jimmy, the Windies are need a big partnership here. Powell and Shiv can do that.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:03 pm

Morning all.

Good start from eng. three down.

Is it time for the great wall of chanders?

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 12:03 pm

I would imagine Bresnan bowls a heavy ball. He's got the shoulders for it.

Jimmy sounds as though he's bowling almost forensically. Should we start calling him the Surgeon?


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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 12:04 pm

Oh, i dont think you are running him down fists, not at all. I am just saying that i also dont see anything that special in his bowling but for some reason he is very effective.
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Post by packofwolves Fri 25 May 2012, 12:05 pm

martyr_94 wrote:Another chance, England looking good, just enough movement to cause a bit of trouble, need at least 3 wickets before 50 to restrict the WI with it a glorious pitch for batting and with the weather set fair for the next few days.

There you go! How will 42 for 3 do you? Smile Bravo caught at second slip off Jimmy.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 12:05 pm

Shiv's gonna fail today, got a feeling.

Jimmy - masterful.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:05 pm

And as we so often see the great wall gets off the mark with a bit of luck. .oh, byes actually.

Then he settles in forever.


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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 12:07 pm

Great first hour for England.

Pitch OK for batting but Jimmy and Broad just too good.

Powell has looked good but a lot up to Shiv again ...

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:09 pm

Powell looking well set. How can him and chanders ever fail? How I ask thee?

It can't happen.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:11 pm

And the great wall is off, the first of his 500 not out this match.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 12:12 pm

The Windies really need these two to calm things down. I would almost be tempted to throw the ball to Swann for a few.
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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 12:13 pm

Jimmy trying Shiv with a few short balls. Trying to set him up for something?

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 12:14 pm

Oooh. Damn near worked! Jimmy at his best.,

Swanny for a couple before lunch, I'd say.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 12:14 pm

A mate of mine mailed me that he put 20 on that 13 wickets would fall today for 220-250 runs. Could be a very good call.
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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 12:16 pm

eirebilly wrote:The Windies really need these two to calm things down. I would almost be tempted to throw the ball to Swann for a few.

Warne was suggesting just that for when Chanderpaul came in , before the match. Obviously great (cricket) minds think alike , billy Very Happy

Having said that , jimmy so nearly got him then...

But Jimmy has bowled nine now , has to rest soon , unfortunately .

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:16 pm

Sme poor fielding. Tough chance but someone could have got there to have a go.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 12:18 pm

Chanders getting lucky out there. Need those to go our way early doors or he is in for the duration.

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