The state of your long-term injured.

Given (big hope!) no major injuries in the playoff final, the Saffer tour and training park disasters, Tigers will hopefully welcome back Tait and Crane and (I think) clear the wards (don't know about Rob Hawkins).

What about your side?

Pornoty, a good talking point

I am very worried about Munsters medical team. I have massive worries that our players seem to be struggling to recover from injuries. In the last 2 seasons we have had the following players retire:

Barry Murphy - 27 years old

Denis Leamy - 30 years old

Ian Downling - 27 years old

Darragh Hurley - 26 years old

And then older guys like Jerry Flannery and David Wallace had to retire due to injury but were a bit older.

In addition, we have seen players continue to pick up injury after injury. Felix Jones seems to just get long term injury after long term injury. David Wallace ended up having a few false dawns in his bid to get back playing rugby and I think O'Connell has gathered several fairly severe injuries over last the last year.

Obviously rugby is a physical game but I worry about Munsters ability to deal with injuries and have my doubts that the players are being rehabbed to the required standard.

Staggy,

I like this quote from Cockerill

"We are pretty patient with our injured players. If they get injured for us we have the ethos that we put them right."

( http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/16742756 )

Which rings true.

I wonder how many international points JW would have accrued had he been a Tigers player.

I wonder how many international points JW would have accrued had he been a Tigers player

He was given the choice several times. He would have had a much bigger trophy collection had he worn the green, red and white for a few years.

Tigers injured:

Croft - neck - back for pre season training and should be fit to play in October
Crane - knee - back for pre season and start of the season
Tait - groin - back for pre season and start of the season
Deacon - hamstring - fit now but with no match fitness, should be good for next season
Brookes - broken leg - complications have set him back and there's been no update
Hawkins - elbow - nasty injury with 3 months recovery time, fears over his long term fitness (straightening of arm may be an issue)

Portnoy I like it too. Its a good attitude to have.

Stag, around 2/3 of Jones' injuries have just been awful luck. You can't blame the medical team for what happened him last summer or some of his neck injuries. His ridiculously stupid running gait is also costing him a bit. The way he runs like a feicing horse hasnt helped him with his neck injuries.


Agree with your point though, was saying it in a thread the other day.

formerly known as Sam wrote:

I wonder how many international points JW would have accrued had he been a Tigers player

He was given the choice several times. He would have had a much bigger trophy collection had he worn the green, red and white for a few years.

Imagine what the Tigers could/would have achieved if they had Wilkinson instead of Andy Goode

It would be helpful if teams' websites had a page which had a page which gave a list of injured/suspended players and an indication of when s/he is likely to be available.

Does any site have this facility?

Portnoy wrote:It would be helpful if teams' websites had a page which had a page which gave a list of injured/suspended players and an indication of when s/he is likely to be available.

Does any site have this facility?

Munster do this thing where they announce all the unavailable guys at each team announcement and why they are unvailable. It doesnt give timelines on when they are back though but I find it very informative.

See Link - http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/10385.php

Quins seem fairly light on the injury front:

Ollie Smith- Not sure if we will see him again, he has missed over a season and we've had zero info on him for a while. If memory serves it was a shoulder injury that ruled him out originally. Turns out he's just retired and taken up coaching at Esher. Good luck to him!

Rob BuchananChris Brooker - Nasty knee injury, wont be back till mid-late next season.

I've heard contradicting reports about the Quins physios/Docs, the players seem quite happy and injuries don't seem to lengthen like with some teams. But a few free lancers they've employed haven't liked the pressure they're under to get players back on to the pitch, that could well be the same for all teams though and I suppose it is a tricky juggling act for the coaches.

Yappy - isnt Chris Brooker out long term?

I think I meant Chris Brooker rather then Buchanan seeing as he was on the bench on Sat... My bad

Refreshingly Glaws don't have a long list. Sharples shoulder op has been done and he'll be back for pre-season. Woody's torn pec is fixed and he'll be back for the start of the season too. The only long term injury is a bad one to Olly Morgan, who has done his cruciate. We're not expecting to see him back anytime before November. With May and the incoming Thomas we now have cover at FB, so I really hope Morgs is not rushed back as he is too important a player to us.

Ferris will never be fully fit - we will just play him in 10 odd games a season.
Bowe might not be fully fit for the start of the season.
Payne will be raring to go.
Court will be fine
Rory has a minor neck issue - not too serious

Basically, Ferris apart, Ulster are in good shape.

Isn't Ferris looking at serious knee issues once he retires from rugby because he's chosen to carry on playing Geoff? I'm sure I read that his knees were Flip but he decided to carry on anyway.

Ferris has no cartliage in one knee. He will have arthritis in later life for sure.

He hopes to make the 2017 Lions through careful game management - I would be amazed if he makes it that far. To be honest if I heard he had to give up the game in a year or two it would not surprise me.

My one hope for him is he is fit enough to pull on the Lions shirt next summer. Given the quality of his play he deserves to retire as a Lion who actually played in a test.

That's a real shame about Ferris Geoff, didn't realise it was that bad. I thought he was just susceptible to injury, like some poor players seem to be. Got to admire him for that decision though- pretty brave sacrificing quality in later life for a longer rugby career.

When Quins were handed the trophy, the commentator said that Chris Brooker won't be seen much next season- and it had me thinking; is this due to injury, or the emergence of Buchanan?

Most of the Scarlets seriously injured players have retired - Rhys and Iestyn Thomas, D Jones...

We're just hoping Stoddart and Ford can come back well next season, which will give us the depth we need at FB.

Other than that we just need to wait for Gatland/Howley to run our Welsh internationals into the ground and return them injured...

When Quins were handed the trophy, the commentator said that Chris Brooker won't be seen much next season- and it had me thinking; is this due to injury, or the emergence of Buchanan?

Judging by the knee injuries of Tigers players like Parling, Newby and Crane I think that is just the required recovery time. Parling and Crane took entire seasons off to get themselves right whilst Newby took 9 months but is being carefully managed. The knees take an awful lot of strain in rugby so you have to be careful.

I think you are in the wrong folder

Kiwireddevil wrote:
Can everyone please cool down a touch. The snarkiness quotient from multiple posters is getting a tad depressing.

Sorry all, please disregard - for some reason this comment posted onto the wrong thread

geoff998rugby wrote:I think you are in the wrong folder

I swear I was on the Rabo final thread

Confused.com.

Kiwireddevil wrote:

Kiwireddevil wrote:
Can everyone please cool down a touch. The snarkiness quotient from multiple posters is getting a tad depressing.

Sorry all, please disregard - for some reason this comment posted onto the wrong thread

I was wondering then! I had to double check to see if any of the 'usual suspects' hadnt joined the thread and been posting without me noticing!

Kiwireddevil wrote:

Kiwireddevil wrote:
Can everyone please cool down a touch. The snarkiness quotient from multiple posters is getting a tad depressing.

Sorry all, please disregard - for some reason this comment posted onto the wrong thread

Yes quickly blame the tools, bad work men and all that...

And there was me thinking it was because i'd said flip!

formerly known as Sam wrote:

When Quins were handed the trophy, the commentator said that Chris Brooker won't be seen much next season- and it had me thinking; is this due to injury, or the emergence of Buchanan?

Judging by the knee injuries of Tigers players like Parling, Newby and Crane I think that is just the required recovery time. Parling and Crane took entire seasons off to get themselves right whilst Newby took 9 months but is being carefully managed. The knees take an awful lot of strain in rugby so you have to be careful.

That's what I hope he meant too Sam, add to that we have a very good back up and I think he should be off for as long as it takes, definitely should not be rushed back.

yappysnap wrote:

Kiwireddevil wrote:

Kiwireddevil wrote:
Can everyone please cool down a touch. The snarkiness quotient from multiple posters is getting a tad depressing.

Sorry all, please disregard - for some reason this comment posted onto the wrong thread

Yes quickly blame the tools, bad work men and all that...

And there was me thinking it was because i'd said flip!

Sheesh.

I knew I should have deleted the thing and pretended it never happened