Are France, Ireland, Argentina and South Africa the only GENUINE international sides?

I am just trying to think of which national sides don't rely on foreign imports to boost themselves.

This is how I currently see international sides and who they Cuddle in a bad way/pillage.

NZ - Any island between Australia and Alaska
England - Samoa, NZ and South Africa
Wales - England
Scotland - Australia & Netherlands
Australia - NZRL
Italy - EVERYONE

Pardon my ignorance but you'll have to enlighten me as to who Australia has pinched from the NZ Rugby League.

Sorry I should have said NZ AND Rugby league,

Tomane and Vuna are the latest Kiwi born imports to add to Quade Cooper.

Ol Welliamwibb didn't last long. Honestly, you don't put as much effort into your usernames anymore.

Breadvan wrote:Ol Welliamwibb didn't last long. Honestly, you don't put as much effort into your usernames anymore.

Who is Welliamwibb?

I think the nationality of someone has changed from the traditional 'where you were born' definition. Allot of the Welsh boys who were born in England have lived in Wales for 90% of their lives. If you have a genuine affiliation with a country and feel part of it then that's your nationality as far as I'm concerned.

NZ have a great scouting system actually-looking for talent in the islands at the age of 3 and encouraging their families to move to NZ to join their relatives whose gene pool was identified by the NZRU as conducive to producing top rugby players. Surprised other countries haven't done this.

disneychilly wrote:NZ have a great scouting system actually-looking for talent in the islands at the age of 3 and encouraging their families to move to NZ to join their relatives whose gene pool was identified by the NZRU as conducive to producing top rugby players. Surprised other countries haven't done this.

I noticed this. Most of the NZ Polynesian stars moved to NZ at a young age. It seemed to work with Faletau for Wales. I think Wales need to twin with Tonga or something and build a tunnel.

must be a slow day for you at work today.

This sort of post is dragging 606v2 down into a level I hoped it would have avoided.

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South Africa in recent years have taken the following players from other nations in the last 20 years

Beast
Chavanaga
Mujati
Montegomery
Skinstad
Garvey
Teichmann

They also have a young Kenyan kid in their sights Daniel Adongo & Beasts brother in also in the Sharks academy.

France

Tony Marsh
Peter De Villiers

Ireland

Simon Geoghegan
Simon Easterby
Rob Henderson
Tom Court
Isaac Boss

Everyone is at it

Please don't feed the trolls.
It makes the goats feel unwanted.

Which troll relies the most on bites?

I don't really see an issue picking from our rugby league players since every second kid here grows up playing/watching it. You might have a point regarding players that moved here at a more mature age but kids that were born elsewhere then moved here and grew up here (eg. Tomane) are perfectly legitimate in my opinion. Ben Franks was born in Melbourne but I'd hardly call him an Australian. How many countries these days can honestly say that every player in the team was born, raised, and learnt their trade solely in their represented country?

We stole Jamie Heaslip from the Israelis.


Court and Boss have Irish grandparents I think, but yeah I agree.

You'd have to be a very brave national coach to turn down foreign talent available to you.... Lievemont turned down Antoine Claassen of SA who has been one of the best players in France for years but otherwise has anyone continued to ignore foreign players which could make a difference in their side??

If Argentina had a pro league with foreign imports, they'd be doing the same as everyone else.

I remember reading reader comments on Rugby World and one chastised them giving them examples like Muliaina and others who went to NZ as infants. The reply was "Nonsense. Every player should be encouraged to play for the country of their birth".

That piece of arrogance/ignorance astounded me even more than it cheesed me off. Heaslip and ROG are two perfect examples of why that falls flat.

disneychilly

I agree.

Birth by circumstance i.e. parents temporary relocation for work i.e. Simon Shaw, ROG, Heaslip etc should not be counted as foreign imports.

Breadvan wrote:Ol Welliamwibb didn't last long. Honestly, you don't put as much effort into your usernames anymore.

Pretending to be a french pornographer did not last long either. though that user was deleted I think.

disneychilly wrote:I remember reading reader comments on Rugby World and one chastised them giving them examples like Muliaina and others who went to NZ as infants. The reply was "Nonsense. Every player should be encouraged to play for the country of their birth".

That piece of arrogance/ignorance astounded me even more than it cheesed me off. Heaslip and ROG are two perfect examples of why that falls flat.

Another good example would be Daf James (Namibia), or from non-rugby circles Spike Milligan (India I believe).

The one that makes me laugh is that there area a number of players in the Welsh squad who are Welsh speaking (and some first language) that people seem to want to class as English based on the grounds they were born there, even though they took their first steps on Welsh soil.

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:

must be a slow day for you at work today.

This sort of post is dragging 606v2 down into a level I hoped it would have avoided.

Sad Sad stuff

+1

martyr_94 wrote:I think the nationality of someone has changed from the traditional 'where you were born' definition. Allot of the Welsh boys who were born in England have lived in Wales for 90% of their lives. If you have a genuine affiliation with a country and feel part of it then that's your nationality as far as I'm concerned.

where was your granny born more like!

HERSH wrote:

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:

must be a slow day for you at work today.

This sort of post is dragging 606v2 down into a level I hoped it would have avoided.

Sad Sad stuff

+1

Irony if I've ever seen it.

disneychilly wrote:I remember reading reader comments on Rugby World and one chastised them giving them examples like Muliaina and others who went to NZ as infants. The reply was "Nonsense. Every player should be encouraged to play for the country of their birth".

That piece of arrogance/ignorance astounded me even more than it cheesed me off. Heaslip and ROG are two perfect examples of why that falls flat.

Was that FallingTP? I remember he wrote into Stephen Jones' Rolling Maul column and presented that argument and Jones had no reply but a sarcastic remark....says it all really.

Whatever happened to FAllingTP off the old 606? Extremely knowledgeable but did take the bait far too easily...

Yeah it was a mistake to start him on economics. Good rugby knowledge though mintie like you say.

For the life of me I can't remember the English WUM on 606 who was good value. An unashamed WUM but with a good rugby knowledge and wit to boot (no pun intended) like our very own GG. If you're going to provoke, do it with style and rugby knowledge to back it up. Sadly, the bottom feeders (pun intended) we see on here occasionally find ways to sink to lower depths with no humour or insight.

engalndworldbeaters or famousimpressario??

chewed_mintie wrote:

disneychilly wrote:I remember reading reader comments on Rugby World and one chastised them giving them examples like Muliaina and others who went to NZ as infants. The reply was "Nonsense. Every player should be encouraged to play for the country of their birth".

That piece of arrogance/ignorance astounded me even more than it cheesed me off. Heaslip and ROG are two perfect examples of why that falls flat.

Was that FallingTP? I remember he wrote into Stephen Jones' Rolling Maul column and presented that argument and Jones had no reply but a sarcastic remark....says it all really.

Whatever happened to FAllingTP off the old 606? Extremely knowledgeable but did take the bait far too easily...

FallingTP decided to stop blogging after the BBC shut. PanamaRdAotearoa, FallingTP and I catch up for a pint every now and then though.

Ah good man mintie: englandworldbeaters. That was the bloke. Like page 3 on The Sun, you knew what to expect and you always had a quick peek at what was posted.

Kiwi give those two my best when you see them next. Panama was a crack up but I enjoyed hearing from both. The Madrid 606 community is unfortunately very slim pickings. I enjoy the camaraderie and there is great respect for everyone but sometimes I think it'd be good to branch out and enlarge the club.

LondonTiger wrote:

Breadvan wrote:Ol Welliamwibb didn't last long. Honestly, you don't put as much effort into your usernames anymore.

Pretending to be a french pornographer did not last long either. though that user was deleted I think.

yep both post and username got erased in less than 2 hours !

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Yeah it was a mistake to start him on economics. Good rugby knowledge though mintie like you say.

For the life of me I can't remember the English WUM on 606 who was good value. An unashamed WUM but with a good rugby knowledge and wit to boot (no pun intended) like our very own GG. If you're going to provoke, do it with style and rugby knowledge to back it up. Sadly, the bottom feeders (pun intended) we see on here occasionally find ways to sink to lower depths with no humour or insight.

Do you mean Cyril? He's here, first as SafeAsMilk and now as SugarNSpikes.

No through the help of my Kiwi bro I got the answer mate. Englandworldbeaters. As far as I know, he didn't make the leap over to v2. I think it was because his DeLorean didn't have enough power to generate the required gigawatts to transport him back to the future from 2003.

Griff wrote:

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Yeah it was a mistake to start him on economics. Good rugby knowledge though mintie like you say.

For the life of me I can't remember the English WUM on 606 who was good value. An unashamed WUM but with a good rugby knowledge and wit to boot (no pun intended) like our very own GG. If you're going to provoke, do it with style and rugby knowledge to back it up. Sadly, the bottom feeders (pun intended) we see on here occasionally find ways to sink to lower depths with no humour or insight.

Do you mean Cyril? He's here, first as SafeAsMilk and now as SugarNSpikes.

I think he meant EnglandWorldbeaters (who got banned from the Beeb after getting into a bunfight with Kiwi1979). I'm pretty sure I spotted him a few months ago, can't remember the username though.

rhonddasmackhead wrote:

HERSH wrote:

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:

must be a slow day for you at work today.

This sort of post is dragging 606v2 down into a level I hoped it would have avoided.

Sad Sad stuff

+1

Irony if I've ever seen it.

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