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Post by Tropicalfruiter Mon 07 Jan 2013, 6:01 pm

Bit basic this. But with the Joker at one and Murray at three, surely the two will kill each other in the semis and RF will pick up the pieces?
Tell me if I'm wrong, please.

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Post by Jeremy_Kyle Mon 07 Jan 2013, 6:04 pm

you are wrong.
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Post by Tropicalfruiter Mon 07 Jan 2013, 7:00 pm

Thank you.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue 08 Jan 2013, 12:50 am

you mean like last year? oh wait...

also there's of course no guarantee Murray and Djokovic will be in the same half (ooo it's been a while since our last conspiracy theory hasn't it?). As a Murray fan, I can honestly say I couldn't care less about who's in whose half of the draw, as he'll probably have to beat both of them to win anyway...

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Post by Henman Bill Tue 08 Jan 2013, 4:54 am

consipracy theorists please place your predictions in advance, thank you...

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Post by Guest Wed 09 Jan 2013, 12:50 pm

Baker and Ward have won their opening qualifying rounds.

I wish Baker would get off his arse and off the futures/challenger tour and try and qualify for some ATP events!

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Post by bradman99.94 Wed 09 Jan 2013, 1:33 pm

That’s something I’ve often thought, though maybe haven’t been able to word it as articulately as you. Ward tries his luck at the smaller ATP events and occasionally manages to get through

I assume Baker reckons that his potential earnings and ranking points are higher playing in Challengers as opposed to ATP given that he is likely to progress further and presumably assesses (correctly I think) that he is more than likely to be dumped in the first round of qualifying. Ward is a stronger player and more capable of competing at the higher level

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Post by Guest Wed 09 Jan 2013, 1:38 pm

Baker similar to Goodall plays the percentage you could say and stays closer to the events in the UK. Obviously they don't get anywhere near the sponsorships of say Murray, but depending whether the LTA provide them with any funding. I guess for them the thought of having to qualify for the 250/500 events presents too much in the way of risk with the schedule and the field in those events is a turn off.

Their ages go against them too. It is a shame Ward never managed to build on his 2011 Queens herorics.

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Post by bogbrush Wed 09 Jan 2013, 9:50 pm

Murray doesn't care, he'd expect to play both.

Federer and Djokovic will certainly mind.
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Post by Danny_1982 Wed 09 Jan 2013, 10:08 pm

I think Murray would rather Federer in the semi.

Not because he has any more or less chance against him, but because every time he plays Novak it seems to be a long epic decided by a couple of points.

His matches against Roger have always been a bit quicker, win or lose. Obviously you'd rather the long draining match as the last one rather than the penultimate one.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 09 Jan 2013, 10:19 pm

I would say Murray is 75% certain to face Djokovic in the semis should they both get that far. The draw usually pairs No.1 seed V No.3 seed and No.2 seed V No.4 seed. If I am not mistaken.
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Post by JuliusHMarx Wed 09 Jan 2013, 10:28 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:I would say Murray is 75% certain to face Djokovic in the semis should they both get that far. The draw usually pairs No.1 seed V No.3 seed and No.2 seed V No.4 seed. If I am not mistaken.

It's random, regardless of patterns that may temporarily emerge.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 09 Jan 2013, 10:31 pm

Yes JHM but No.1 seed NEVER gets drawn against No.2 seed in the semis. Apart from that is is random but call me psychic but I see Murray getting Djokovic and Federer getting Ferrer if the top four seeds get that far.
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Post by Born Slippy Wed 09 Jan 2013, 10:32 pm

Danny_1982 wrote:I think Murray would rather Federer in the semi.

Not because he has any more or less chance against him, but because every time he plays Novak it seems to be a long epic decided by a couple of points.

His matches against Roger have always been a bit quicker, win or lose. Obviously you'd rather the long draining match as the last one rather than the penultimate one.

Yes, Murray would definitely prefer Fed in the semi-final. You'd have thought that there must be a small psychological advantage in facing Djokovic in another final as well, given the US Open result.

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Post by djlovesyou Wed 09 Jan 2013, 10:37 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:Yes JHM but No.1 seed NEVER gets drawn against No.2 seed in the semis. Apart from that is is random but call me psychic but I see Murray getting Djokovic and Federer getting Ferrer if the top four seeds get that far.

I don't think I'd ever call anyone psychic for simply getting a 50/50 pick correct.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 09 Jan 2013, 10:41 pm

Okay wrong term call it a hunch or gut feeling. Better?
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Post by djlovesyou Wed 09 Jan 2013, 10:43 pm

Fine, as long as you don't claim that you almost got it right if Murray draws Federer.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 09 Jan 2013, 10:44 pm

Nope I dont make false claims I am afraid.
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Post by summerblues Thu 10 Jan 2013, 2:12 am

Speaking of socal, has he gone for good or will he start posting again with the new season? He adds certain flavor to the forum and it would be a shame to lose that.

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Post by The Special Juan Thu 10 Jan 2013, 8:56 am

Isner's out.
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Post by banbrotam Thu 10 Jan 2013, 9:47 am

These comments about the potential SF's always crease me up

Can people understand it's random i.e. Seeds 1 and 3 could have met in the last 50 SF's - but would still only have a 50/50 chance of it occuring next time

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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 10 Jan 2013, 10:00 am

Banbrotam if you wish to look at it another way - in all the time following Andy Murray I have come to expect a chronic draw in the semis. That is why I have that gut feeling it will be Novak Djokovic in the semi should both get there. And yes I do realise the draw is random by the way thanks.
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Post by HM Murdock Thu 10 Jan 2013, 10:17 am

summerblues wrote:Speaking of socal, has he gone for good or will he start posting again with the new season? He adds certain flavor to the forum and it would be a shame to lose that.
I believe he left for good. Although I did see he was viewing the forum last month, so who knows?

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Post by summerblues Fri 11 Jan 2013, 2:20 am

HM Murdoch wrote:
summerblues wrote:Speaking of socal, has he gone for good or will he start posting again with the new season? He adds certain flavor to the forum and it would be a shame to lose that.
I believe he left for good. Although I did see he was viewing the forum last month, so who knows?
Let's hope he stays (or returns). He was a character who added color to the forum.

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Post by spuranik Fri 11 Jan 2013, 4:11 am

CaledonianCraig wrote:Yes JHM but No.1 seed NEVER gets drawn against No.2 seed in the semis. Apart from that is is random but call me psychic but I see Murray getting Djokovic and Federer getting Ferrer if the top four seeds get that far.

Well, there you go. Draw is out and you are not a psychic...

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Post by User 774433 Fri 11 Jan 2013, 7:24 am

summerblues wrote:Speaking of socal, has he gone for good or will he start posting again with the new season? He adds certain flavor to the forum and it would be a shame to lose that.
No, he hasn't left the forum.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Fri 11 Jan 2013, 9:20 am

spuranik wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:Yes JHM but No.1 seed NEVER gets drawn against No.2 seed in the semis. Apart from that is is random but call me psychic but I see Murray getting Djokovic and Federer getting Ferrer if the top four seeds get that far.

Well, there you go. Draw is out and you are not a psychic...

Well if you had read further into the thread you would have seen I said it was more akin to a hunch/gut feeling. Okay so my guts were playing up yesterday and were not up to usual predictory standards. I apologise.
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