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Post by Don Alfonso Mon 28 Jan 2013, 4:05 pm

First topic message reminder :

John Andrew (Ballymena/Ulster)
Jake Caulfield (Malone/Ulster)
John Creighton (Malone /Ulster)
Steve Crosbie (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
Thomas Daly (Lansdowne/Leinster)
John Donnan (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
Peter Dooley (Lansdowne/Leinster)
Conor Joyce (Malone/Ulster)
Sean McCarthy (Shannon/Munster)
Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster)
George McGuigan (Newcastle Falcons/Exile)
Ryan Murphy (Dolphin/Munster)
Stuart Olding (Belfast Harlequins /Ulster)
Alexander O'Meara (Hartpury/ Exiles)
David Panther (Corinthians/Connacht)
Rory Scannell (Dolphin/Munster)
Rory Scholes (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
Brian Scott (UCC/Munster)
Darren Sweetnam (UCC/Munster)
Christopher Taylor (Malone/Ulster)
Gavin Thornbury (UCD/Leinster)
Peadar Timmins (UCD/Leinster)
Josh Van Der Flier (UCD/Leinster)


First game is vs Wales - Fri 1st Feb 19:10 Wales U20 v Ireland U20 Parc Eirias. I think it's on RTE 2.

Bit disappointed - I was hoping Olding might leapfrog NOC during the Grown-Ups 6N. I know the Ravens had been playing with him at 10 and O'Connor at 12. He and Joyce have had senior caps - I think Rory Scholes played in a friendly back at the start of the season? Missing Farrell, who is still eligible, due to injury.

Chance for Luke McGarth to start his bid for Leinster scrumhalf-ship?

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Post by Notch Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:37 pm

Luke McGrath is the big star of this team. I wish our 15, Olding, was at 10 with him. His best position is outhalf but I've been hearing that Ulster are looking to use him in the Pro12 games during the 6N so he may not be available- hence it makes sense to have a settled half-back combination.
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Post by Cari Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:38 pm

That Welsh line out didn't look straight to me unless it was blown left.

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:39 pm

We got a lineout in their 22. I wonder if it'll be straight this time?
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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:40 pm

Welsh lineout is awful
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Post by Notch Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:40 pm

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Morgannwg wrote:Anyone got any comments on the scrums?

Well, Ireland can keep doing what they're doing in the scrums, they're giving us points (if sam had kicked them all of course) Very Happy

Ireland are missing the the Byrne brothers in the front row, and the replacements, especially at tighthead look poor.

What do you know about Jake Caulfield? Two Ulster tightheads in the 23 tonight, just hope somebody can put their hand. Macklin has been underwhelming and is now out for the season and Declan Fitzpatrick spends more time in the treatment room than the training paddock!

John Afoas contract ticking down is a timebomb for Ulster- we need somebody to put their hand up!
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Post by Morgannwg Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:40 pm

This hooker is bloody awful. It was the same story in the same fixture last year. Lots of mistakes that turned out to be costly.
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Post by quangut Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:41 pm

wales606 wrote:Welsh lineout is awful

Doing the seniors proud.

Welsh knock ons are quite frankly criminal. 19 points squandered.

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Post by valjester Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:42 pm

Notch wrote:Luke McGrath is the big star of this team. I wish our 15, Olding, was at 10 with him. His best position is outhalf but I've been hearing that Ulster are looking to use him in the Pro12 games during the 6N so he may not be available- hence it makes sense to have a settled half-back combination.


The injuries in the backline are so annoying. Imagine having Olding at 10 with Farrell and Henshaw available in the centre, and Adam Byrne in the back three. The amount of damage they would do, even off limited ball.

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:42 pm

I'm going to have to mute this. It's the worst commentary in world rugby. Rick O'Shea is a clueless idiot.
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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:42 pm

Welsh backrow are carrying strongly, but we need to get Cory Allen in space outwide
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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:43 pm

Morgannwg wrote:I'm going to have to mute this. It's the worst commentary in world rugby. Rick O'Shea is a clueless idiot.

Yep, ive been doing that whenever he is commentating - i've put up so far today because he isn't by himself.
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Post by Cari Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:44 pm

All I'm hearing from Charlo is McGrath...he's certainly this Irish squad's brightest star by the sounds...

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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:44 pm

Cory Allen trying to run with the ball behind his back Laugh
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Post by valjester Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:45 pm

Notch wrote:
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Morgannwg wrote:Anyone got any comments on the scrums?

Well, Ireland can keep doing what they're doing in the scrums, they're giving us points (if sam had kicked them all of course) Very Happy

Ireland are missing the the Byrne brothers in the front row, and the replacements, especially at tighthead look poor.

What do you know about Jake Caulfield? Two Ulster tightheads in the 23 tonight, just hope somebody can put their hand. Macklin has been underwhelming and is now out for the season and Declan Fitzpatrick spends more time in the treatment room than the training paddock!

John Afoas contract ticking down is a timebomb for Ulster- we need somebody to put their hand up!

Not enough to comment tbh, I'm putting my faith in Fitz discovering a cure to his injury problems.

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Post by Cari Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:45 pm

Ruddock yapping to Phil Steele now. Unfortunately his interview is being drowned out by the local PA trying to get the crowd to sing Hymns and Arias... Rolling Eyes


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Post by Morgannwg Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:46 pm

Awful stuff from Wales. Just fckin awful.

Ireland are much better with ball in hand.
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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:47 pm

Referee not calling holding on at the breakdown, for either teams, it's frustrating when there is good follow up like just then by the Welsh no11.
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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:48 pm

Terrible handling by Wales
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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:49 pm

Right, that's it, ive put up with enough Rick O'Shea
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Post by Morgannwg Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:50 pm

Haha.
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Post by Morgannwg Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:50 pm

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Post by quangut Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:50 pm

Wales are playing like the senior side.

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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:52 pm

The Welsh 11 Hewitt looks sharp.
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Post by Golden Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:52 pm

Nice tackle from Olding, thought it was a forward pass to Hewitt though

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Post by valjester Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:53 pm

Golden wrote:Nice tackle from Olding, thought it was a forward pass to Hewitt though

Not to mention coming in at the side at the ruck, should have been a kickable pen to Ireland, instead 3 point opportunity for Wales.

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:53 pm

Just shocking Wales play. I can't believe this rubbish. The U20s always manage to give me tourettes every year. Best in Wales my ass.
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Post by quangut Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:53 pm

5 missed. Good player USELESS kicker.

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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:54 pm

Another awful miss by Sam Davies.

Really could have used Rhys Patchell tonight.
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Post by Cari Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:54 pm

Sam misses another crucial penalty. I'm not sure if it's very windy there though. It looked likethe ball got carried wide there.

3-7 coming up to HT.

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:55 pm

wales606 wrote:Right, that's it, ive put up with enough Rick O'Shea

I'm watching this on iPlayer and apparently this is the red button commentary. So why are we putting up with this over the standard commentary.
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Post by Golden Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:55 pm

Any other kickers in the Welsh team? Davies is having a shocker from the tee

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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:55 pm

Wales looked good for the first 15 minutes, but Ireland definitely deserve their lead after the shambolic last 25.
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Post by quangut Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:55 pm

I've lost track... have there been more knock ons or missed kicks at goal?


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Post by Morgannwg Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:55 pm

quangut wrote:5 missed. Good player USELESS kicker.

Useless player aswell. Too slow and weak.
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Post by LeinsterFan4life Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:56 pm

Is the ref making the right calls at the scrum? He's blowing up very fast.

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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:56 pm

quangut wrote:I've lost track... have there been more knock ons or missed kicks at goal?


Tough one.

I think there have been more handling errors than missed kicks, but more missed kicks than knock ons.
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Post by quangut Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:56 pm

72% territory

3 points

Definitely playing the Welsh way

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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:57 pm

There not even turning off the commentary for HT! I would rather listen to Sean Holley!!!
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Post by quangut Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:57 pm

wales606 wrote:
quangut wrote:I've lost track... have there been more knock ons or missed kicks at goal?


Tough one.

I think there have been more handling errors than missed kicks, but more missed kicks than knock ons.

Remember when Jonathan Humphreys was hooker for Wales?

He coined the term "butter fingers".

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:58 pm

Shambolic ain't the word and the commentators think it ain't a bad half by both sides? Oh dear. How many balls did Wales drop? Utter useless. Talk about looking like a team that hasn't played together in their lives after going through all that during the summer.
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Post by LeinsterFan4life Fri 01 Feb 2013, 7:58 pm

Ruddock says our LH is usually a TH. that kinda explains our problems at the scrum. Surley we have another LH though?

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:03 pm

Ye the Irish LH is a TH covering because of injuries.

Not sure what all the issues are, there are a number of players who are being massively outclassed at this level (Thomas 7 and Jones 15) but them aside both teams are trying to play a game in difficult conditions.

I like the look of Ellis 8 and Jenkins 6, Davies started well with an armchair ride but has lost his composure.

Very dissapointed in the welsh centre pairing, they are true quality but have offered very little.

Wales pack have a distinct physical advantage, but the Irish back row and half backs look classy.

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Post by valjester Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:04 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Ruddock says our LH is usually a TH. that kinda explains our problems at the scrum. Surley we have another LH though?

In fairness our problems in the scrum seem to be on the TH side. And on Scott its hard to say where he will end up, in the last year, he has played in all three front row positions on a number of occasions.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:04 pm

Morg

The best in Wales are playing for their regions.

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:06 pm

Well that's only 4 players isn't it?
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Post by Golden Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:06 pm

Is there another kicker in the welsh backline?

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Post by valjester Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:09 pm

Did he release after making the tackle there?

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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:10 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:Ye the Irish LH is a TH covering because of injuries.

Not sure what all the issues are, there are a number of players who are being massively outclassed at this level (Thomas 7 and Jones 15) but them aside both teams are trying to play a game in difficult conditions.
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Thomas is an goodplayer, he didn't have a good first half, but was excellent in the U20s WC last year.

And he just got an excellent turnover
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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:11 pm

Another penalty, but it isn't straight in from of the posts, so I expect Davies will miss.
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Post by wales606 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:12 pm

It's a miracle!

6 - 7
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