Sergio to miss Wales encounter?

Italy captain Sergio Parisse is set to miss Saturday's Six Nations match with Wales in Rome because of suspension.

The inspirational captain, who scored the first try in Italy's shock win over France, was sent off on Saturday while playing for club side Stade Francais.

Parisse was dismissed for allegedly insulting the match referee in the Top 14 match against Bordeaux-Begles.

A six-week suspension is the minimum 29-year-old Parisse can expect if found guilty of the offence.

Any suspension would apply to the Six Nations, meaning the number eight would be in danger of missing Italy's final three games in the competition.

Parisse's case is set to be heard before a French league disciplinary hearing in the coming days.

Under International Rugby Board laws that govern world rugby, the sanction for players found guilty of abusing a match official ranges from a six to 52-week suspension.

Parisse, who can appeal against the verdict within 72 hours of its delivery, denies insulting referee Laurent Cardona.

The 93-time capped forward wrote on Twitter: "Sorry to my team-mates and fans for the red card, which I find too harsh! I never insulted M. Cardona."

Parisse was sent off after 36 minutes of Stade's home match with Bordeaux-Begles, having scored a try in the fourth minute.

His side went on to secure a 30-14 victory despite playing for more than half of the match with a one-man disadvantage.

In light of Parisse's expected suspension, Italy coach Jacques Brunel has called veteran flanker Mauro Bergamasco into his squad to face Wales.

The 33-year-old was left out for the games against France and Scotland.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/21492750

A big blow for Italy.

What a shame, you want your team to play the best...

Anyone know the real story?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/21492750

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Seems Sergio Parisse is adamant that he is innocent of the charges...

Great news if he misses the game. That's a whole lot of confidence sucked out of the team, hopefully.

This gives Wales a chance.

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:This gives Wales a chance.

As if we wouldn't have had one anyway.

Can't imagine the critics will be all too impressed with Parisse's behaviour. As skipper better is certainly expected of him, especially in a year where Italy are very much in with a chance to exceed their usual position at the foot of the table. As good a player as he is his attitude isn't the best.

Knowsit17 wrote:
Can't imagine the critics will be all too impressed with Parisse's behaviour. As skipper better is certainly expected of him, especially in a year where Italy are very much in with a chance to exceed their usual position at the foot of the table. As good a player as he is his attitude isn't the best.

Parisse deny's the accusations. He may well play.

Bergamasco has been drafted in

the incident is on this clip - anyone translate? You can hear an exclamation then the ref stops the game and red cards Parrise who looks genuinely puzzled. 1.10 in the clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae25bxo_-7w

We need whocares. the commentator tells us what he says which sounds a bit like "vous etre partant"

Well, according to some french sites the ref claims Parisse insulted him in English.

Yes and what about the "ballon extraordinare " bit too ?

havent listened to it a few times and honestly cannot understand a single word out of it!

Cardona is probably the worst ref in France, very abnoxious as well. made some big joke decisions in this game against both teams. check out the 3rd try for SF where they actually score with the wrong ball!! that's the "ballon magique" bit from begles bordeaux coach

6 Weeks for insulting a referee, a 2 match suspension for deliberately trying to injure another player.

Yeah, that would be right

The ref doesnt even tell Parisse what he said. Surely little will be made of this at the hearing on Wednesday.

Well Id assume Parisse would have the best idea of what he said? If he needs the ref to tell him he should be sitting out for concussion

well it must have been bad to send him off

perhaps he said the ref was a short and fat arsed garlic eating surrender monkey with hygiene problems and a penchant for prostitutes with webbed feet

100%beefy wrote:well it must have been bad to send him off

perhaps he said the ref was a short and fat arsed garlic eating surrender monkey with hygiene problems and a penchant for prostitutes with webbed feet

If you are in France and you say that, not many people would be offended.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Well Id assume Parisse would have the best idea of what he said? If he needs the ref to tell him he should be sitting out for concussion

I presume he thinks it is mistaken identity and someone else said something he got fingered for?

maestegmafia wrote:

100%beefy wrote:well it must have been bad to send him off

perhaps he said the ref was a short and fat arsed garlic eating surrender monkey with hygiene problems and a penchant for prostitutes with webbed feet

If you are in France and you say that, not many people would be offended.

or Port Talbot to be fair

Well I dont understand french so obv dont have a clue but it doesnt really look like he did anything wrong. He looks genuinely shocked, if he insulted the ref surely he would have been half expecting trouble. Also would any player jog past a ref and insult him? Dont even see that in football much and those boys not afraid of giving refs stick.
That being said, if he did do it then think red+ban is right call.

just heard he copped a 40 day (cut to 30) ban for this. That make sit equivelant to manu Tuilagi punching Chris Ashton in the face multiple times?
Now many people would say both that and calling several refs naughty names is worthy of praise but seriously? Its a very harsh ban which put paid to him in the 6 nations for something he doesnt seem to believe he did ( I thought he was an intruder when i called him a count?)

Does anyione know exactly what hes alleged to have said yet?

Does the IRB or 6 nations actually publish the discipline reports?

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:just heard he copped a 40 day (cut to 30) ban for this. That make sit equivelant to manu Tuilagi punching Chris Ashton in the face multiple times?
Now many people would say both that and calling several refs naughty names is worthy of praise but seriously? Its a very harsh ban which put paid to him in the 6 nations for something he doesnt seem to believe he did ( I thought he was an intruder when i called him a count?)

Does anyione know exactly what hes alleged to have said yet?

The only other player to have been charged similarly was Neil Back and he was given a six month suspension. I think Parisse got off lightly for doing something many fans and Players regularly do.

Given his 30 day ban and subsequent missing of the Wales game, the big question is whether the team is left empty hearted and on a low after his dismissal, or his arguably unfair and controversial expulsion fills the squad with his fire, leaving them a different beast altogether, one which doesn't struggle as it would have a season or two ago.

Looseheaded wrote:Given his 30 day ban and subsequent missing of the Wales game, the big question is whether the team is left empty hearted and on a low after his dismissal, or his arguably unfair and controversial expulsion fills the squad with his fire, leaving them a different beast altogether, one which doesn't struggle as it would have a season or two ago.

As a Captain and talisman, Parisse is without doubt the heartbeat of the Italian team. As you said the team could sway one way or the other.

I am not sure who they will replace him with?

Bergamasco to 6 Zanni to 8?

Looseheaded wrote:Bergamasco to 6 Zanni to 8?

Can't they play Bergamasco at 9?

SubsBench wrote:

Looseheaded wrote:Bergamasco to 6 Zanni to 8?

Can't they play Bergamasco at 9?

I hope they consider it, though at the same time his service wouldn't be dissimilar to Spikey's

Missing him already

maestegmafia wrote:

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:just heard he copped a 40 day (cut to 30) ban for this. That make sit equivelant to manu Tuilagi punching Chris Ashton in the face multiple times?
Now many people would say both that and calling several refs naughty names is worthy of praise but seriously? Its a very harsh ban which put paid to him in the 6 nations for something he doesnt seem to believe he did ( I thought he was an intruder when i called him a count?)

Does anyione know exactly what hes alleged to have said yet?

The only other player to have been charged similarly was Neil Back and he was given a six month suspension. I think Parisse got off lightly for doing something many fans and Players regularly do.

Oh get real, Healy got what was effectively a 2 match ban for trying to break an opponent's leg. How is a bit of verbal as bad as that?

Neil Back shoved the ref over, nothing like this. Id be interested to know what he said. It mustve been something quite bad

"You arent even as good as Wayne Barnes"

Or the like

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Neil Back shoved the ref over, nothing like this. Id be interested to know what he said. It mustve been something quite bad

"You arent even as good as Wayne Barnes"

Or the like

May laugh on other side of my face on Sunday as Barnes is in the middle at Murrayfield

If only Steve Walsh had been reffing I'm sure he would have given back as good as he got with his history of effing and jeffing at players.

Please, for the love of god and all that's holy, WTF DID HE SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I've being scanning google for what Parisse said. I looked at the video but my idiomatic french is not good, but it appears that the commentator was out of the loop of what happened.

However I found this snippet online http://www.lerugbynistere.fr/news/sergio-parisse-suspendu-40-jours-insultes-2002131810.php

For ease I slapped it through google translate and have tried to remove the obvious errors (italics) and provide some rephrasing.

The captain of the Italian and French stage Stade Francais Sergio Parisse was suspended for 40 days, 10 of which suspended, for "insulting the referee" by the Disciplinary Committee of the National League following his hearing on Wednesday. As no audio recording is allowed to verify the facts, the decision is made on what the player and especially the referee. The Suspension should the private bar the Italian player forthe rest of the tournament, as it will not requalified won't end before March 18, the day after the last day of the competition.

Nevertheless, Le Parisien tells us that the third line back-rower was, "very touched incensed by this decision," in accordance consultation with his club, he immediately decided to appeal. Parisse was expelled last Saturday's match against Bordeaux Top 14 for insulting the referee M. Cardona.
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The point is that the offending comment appears to be off-mike and is Parisse's word against the ref's. Parisse certainly seemed let us say a tad miffed.

11% - Italy's win rate without Segio Parisse in their side (25 matches) is 40%, with him involved (93 Tests) it is just 29%....


Italy to win

This makes a mockery of the disciplinary system, surely in no other sport can calling an official names be classed as worse than physicaly assaulting an opponent. where does the line get drawn, will the fans be next and be banned for booing the ref?

There is no comparison so dont make it, use of the boot is legal. Abusing the ref is not for our game thanks very much and we are already on the slippery slope to confronting refs

I'm not comparing to any particular incident, there is no need, there are far to many examples out there of smaller bans than this for physical offences to worry about choosing 1 as an example.
We teach the kids things like Sticks and Stones etc but when it comes to a referee !!!!!!
to many self important officials already.

100%beefy wrote:There is no comparison so dont make it, use of the boot is legal. Abusing the ref is not for our game thanks very much and we are already on the slippery slope to confronting refs

That must be why Healy got a ban then

OH well there goes the €10 I put on Italy at 7-2 - before the Parisser ban was announced. Total bloody farce!

Does anyone know when the Italian team is due to be announced?

It does seem to me that Parisse has been treated harshly whilst Healy got off lightly.

I think both players' bans are disproportionate to the offences.

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:It does seem to me that Parisse has been treated harshly whilst Healy got off lightly.

I think both players' bans are disproportionate to the offences.

Lions considerations perhaps

stamping is NOT legal... full stop.

yes but use of the foot in the ruck is.....

100%beefy wrote:

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:It does seem to me that Parisse has been treated harshly whilst Healy got off lightly.

I think both players' bans are disproportionate to the offences.

Lions considerations perhaps

Irrelevant IMO. Healy is an experienced player and should have known better. Parise should know better too. I think Parise's red card was right and sent out a clear message, the ban just seems like overkill.

Basicly mouth of to the ref and get a silly ban, stamp on a player with such force that under certain circumstances could end careers = short ban.

Disgraceful IMO.