Wolves

Now very much in danger of dropping into the 3rd tier of English football after sinking into the relegation zone coming off a loss to relegation rivals Barnsley.

Can trace it all back to the point when they sacked MM, a man with a good record of bringing teams up, and had no plan B. Not sure which of Connor, Stolbakken or Saunders are worse, they're all pretty dire appointments

Connor did nothing wrong, he's just not a manager. Proven by the fact that as soon as Wolves sacked him, he ended up as McCarthy's assistant again. Stolbakken was the worst IMO, Saunders can still save himself.

Aye Connor never should've got the job but I can't blame him for takin it. Just poor management

All these appointments were easy options for the buffoons that are in power. League 1 football is an absolute certainty and we should start planning for it now. Absolutely appalling.

On paper Wolves don't have a bad side and tbf when they drew 3-3 with us they looked quite decent and got a well deserved point with 10 men.

Back to the management side of things, i think Dean Saunders is a good manager and has got time to prove himself. I never understood why Terry Connor was given the job, that was a complete disaster from day 1. The Stale Stolbakken reign proved to be a disaster as well. Bottom line is they need to sort themselves out, or its league one football next season.

It's weird as previously Wolves seemed to have been managed really well by their owners, but while Mick McCarthy's sacking was perhaps justified, the managerial appointments afterwards have been disastrous. I felt sorry for Terry Connor who seemed to have been thrust into a position he was not only woefully unprepared for, but one which was clearly too much for somebody made for coaching and not managing. Stale Stolkbakken was really an absurd selection. Wolves needed some steady hands with a manager with experience not a relatively obscure European manager.

Dean Saunders is a better choice but the damage has already been done and Wolves who in their last season in the Premier League probably had the best squad of the relegated sides look they are about to suffer the real possibility of crashing and burning down into the lower leagues.

Wolves

When you look at the squad, it's really not too different to the one that managed three successive PL seasons. While then Championship is super competitive and you can expect a big club or two to falter, what's happened at Molineux is nothing short of incredible. No one could have seen this season coming.

For the record I like Saunders, but he's not been given any real backing to change what is clearly a failing team, and once again the powers that be have shown their disinterest in on field affairs.

There's something about Saunders that just doesn't sit right with me and I don't know what it is. Whenever he talks he seems to just mumble a whole lot of nothing. Strange appointment that one.

Nice article here from the Beeb about Bert Williams and Gordon Banks . . . .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21879191

What a Wolves team Williams had in front of him - might not have been the Team of the Fifties, but pretty darn close, certainly them or Man Utd.

Smashing link, Kwini. Bert Williams was before even my time although I know he was very highly regarded between the sticks.

As for Woves' current situation, I'm sorry for the paying fans but the Board have very much brought the troubles on themselves.

guildford,
Amazing really; only the Ho(p/dg)kinsons and Ron Springett really separated Williams and Banks yet to me they're of completely different eras!
Never saw that Wolves team except in grainy black and white images, but what a team they were . . . . I spent quality time on the Molyneux terraces for a couple of wonderful years during the Parkes/Parkin/Bailey/Franny Munro/Waggy/Richards/Doog (who I'd seen play centre half for Pompey 15 yrs before!) era. Loved that team.

Kwini,

As John Richards was in the Wolves team you saw, I guess that was in the early '70s. I first saw Wolves in '67 at Highfield Road - they went up with us (Coventry) to the old Division One that year when we just pipped them to the Second Division title.

You mention some good players. I also saw 'God's First Footballer' Peter Knowles who had presumably departed for a life of bible bashing in the States by the time you were on the Molyneux terraces.

Evoking Billy Bragg - nice combination there, Peter Knowles and Woody Guthrie! Guess his son is playing now, Billy Bragg's that is.

Perhaps Willie Carr and Alun Evans connect those two teams. Robbie Keane later I suppose.

Also loved watching (Nice one) Cyril in the Glory Days at White Hart Lane - dead at 47. No justice.

Knowles on the conveyer belt from Yorkshire to Molyneux - so many of them.

Saturday's game against my team (Middlesbrough) should be an interesting one. Your home form isn't desperately bad (for a side in the relegation zone) while our away form is the worst of any side in the top 10.

There's a very good chance of you picking up all 3 points...who knows this match may even kickstart your survival push.

Ever the optimist I'm holding out for a dull 0-0 or mildly interesting 1-1.

I hope you win dyrewolfe, and I hope it's by 35 goals. Given the choice between Europa League football for Albion or League One football for Wolves, I'd choose L1 for Wolves. Plus, I really liked Tony Mowbray at Albion, so I hope you can get yourselves back in the promotion picture

Kwini,

Alun Evans of the blond locks and pudding basin haircut played Midlands football for Wolves and the Villa, not Coventry. However, you were spot on about Willie Carr - the great Ernie Hunt's partner for that wondrous donkey kick goal.

The other player connection that I can immediately think of between Wolves and Coventry from that era is Bobby Gould. Mind you, it would almost be easier to list the clubs that The Gouldfather didn't play for! His son, Richard, is the Chief Executive at Surrey CCC - a smart cookie who'll probably go further even if he's a bit too polished for my liking.

guilford,
I used to go on an annual cricket tour with an older gent who had just retired from coaching the youth teams at Swindon back in the Summerbee, Hunt, Woodruff days (many others of course) when Bert Head was there.
He always raved about Ernie Hunt's talent. Loved the "donkey kick" free kick, but also loved the description of Hunt, perhaps by McIlvenney, of a player "who's brilliant future is well behind him"! Trot that out to unsuspecting listeners from time to time . . . . .

Along the same lines, and back on thread, sort of, Kenny Hibbitt was another with talent to spare . . . . he might have played for CC in his old age.

Azzy Mahmood wrote: Given the choice between Europa League football for Albion or League One football for Wolves, I'd choose L1 for Wolves.

Looks like I got my wish

Would you not rather Wolves improved again so that you can actually face your rivals? I can't see the enjoyment in seeing your main rivals slip further away from you, means you won't get big derby days or the satisfaction of beating them any more.

I wouldn't actually. I'd like to see them and their fans suffer humiliation after humiliation. I don't want to be even, swap victories and sit in mid-table obscurity with each other. I want them to lose every single game, go down to non-league. They're heading in the right direction

Derby days aren't that enjoyable. In recent years we've won more than we've lost, but there is a section of the Wolves fans that causes trouble before and after games, and it spoils the occasion for the rest of their fans and our own. Wolves away is a dangerous place for an Albion fan to go - how mad is that?

And I've had plenty of satisfaction beating Wolves - now it's Yeovil and Gillingham's turn.

As much as I dislike them for the kneejerk reaction sacking of McCarthy, it's a real shame to see them in their current predicament. I mean they are a much better addition to the PL than say Nothingrwich, or indeed to the Championship than say Peterborough or Barnsley.

Azzy, you may be enjoying but have to say West Brom are a real drab team to watch.....boring as hell. Oh and Wolves are a bigger club than you, even in League 1!

Wolves have sacked Dean Saunders

Thought he would've kept his job before ownership sells up

Decent in league 1

League One, we hope you enjoy League One



And while I appreciate your attempt to defend your team JPX, I would love to know how you are quantifying 'bigger club', as there is no sporting or financial measure by which Wolves can be considered 'bigger' than the team that's sitting in 8th in the Premier League

Surely Steve Morgan must go. Terry Connors, Stale Stolbakken and Dean Saunders in the space of a year.

Meanwhile McCarthy rescued bottom Ipswich

The Board made a real mess of Wolves, from the premature sacking of McCarthy to the bungled appointment of Connors, to the ridiculous appointment of Solbakken, and the bemusing appointment of Saunders. It wouldn't surprise me to see Big Ron as their next manager

enjoy crawley next year

cherriesfna wrote:enjoy crawley next year

Oh boy

Lifelong Wolves fan SOD available.

and you must be very excited at the potential trip to northampton

Stop it Cherries, you're killing me

I think the big question, is whether Saunders would've won League 1 with Doncaster had he stayed.

and oh boy hosting the likes of Shrewsbury, Port Vale and Stevenage , WOW, cant get any better than that!

CHERRIO CHERRIO CHERRIO CHERRIO CHERRIO CHERIOOOO
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11699/8696896/Dean-Saunders-has-been-sacked-by-Wolverhampton-Wanderers

Cherries you seem more excited than me about all this

as a small club fan i love watching big clubs demise

Which begs the question, why do you think Wolves is a big club? They've not won anything for decades, have no money, play in League One and have next to no following outside of their catchment area. That's not a club that's going places!

Can the admins move this topic to League 1?

Oh lads this is proper killing me

Bravo all of you, what a weekend it was and now we get this as well

yes and then move AFCB up to the championship

maybe i was harsh on wolves earlier, on the bright side u have the massive Wolves vs Wallsall Derby to look forward to

Way-hey

It wasn't so much the sacking of McCarthy that started Wolves demise, because really he had to go. It was the appointments after that have ruined them.

Right decision to let Saunders go. Overrated

To be honest, Wolves were improving at the time of McCarthy's sacking, but them Albion hammered them with that Odemwingie hat-trick and the Board jumped on him.

Even if they'd have gone down, he'd have gotten them back up again. He's a good Championship manager.

I will never get why teams are so quick to dump the managers who got them there.

Wolves basically did what Sunderland done this season, except Sunderland seem to have propelled themselves to safety, and Wolves didn't.

Someone on BBC said earlier that people nowaways are used to instant food, instant technology - and now instant results in football. I can see where they're coming from. Don't we all hate losing in these leagues, because it can be two weeks before a win surfaces?

Something clearly wasn't right with O'Neill though. The passion didn't seem to be there.

McCarthy knows how to get teams out of the Championship.

And they gave his assistant the job.

Yes McCarthy does, but they obviously sacked him to try and stay in the Prem ala Sunderland with O'Neill.

As you say they went wrong by having no replacement lined up