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Post by Guest Sat 02 Mar 2013, 10:37 pm

First topic message reminder :

We are now entering the business end of the season!

Now Utd more or less have the title sewn up it's all about the relegation scrap and the race for the Champions League spots.

Game on.


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Mar 2013, 3:16 pm

Bet one of the ex-scummers scores the winner
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Post by guildfordbat Sun 17 Mar 2013, 3:17 pm

Showing I watched too much football in the 1960s and '70s, I thought Holt had every right to go for the ball and the resulting yellow card was very harsh!

Agree with others that Norwich definitely should have had a pen when Rose handled.

About 5 mins left ....

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Mar 2013, 3:26 pm

Brilliant brilliant point considering the circumstances.

Chris Foy and his officials need to have a long hard look at themselves. Pathetic. I've never seen a more inept display of refereeing
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Mar 2013, 3:26 pm

Decent point for Nodge all things considered. Sunderland are a poor side and could get sucked in.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Mar 2013, 3:31 pm

FreekShow wrote:Decent point for Nodge all things considered. Sunderland are a poor side and could get sucked in.

If they hadn't got that seriously dodgy penalty, what other real chances did they have? Devoid of anything. I mean arguably we should have won that with 10 men!
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Mar 2013, 3:33 pm

You were jobbed Olly!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Mar 2013, 3:39 pm

FreekShow wrote:You were jobbed Olly!

The red card, yeah, I thought it was one in real time, looked like it, fair enough.

The penalty. Graham is 2 yards behind Bassong, so is offside (he's interfering) and then, well the lino, doesn't give a pen (rightfully), the crowd make some noise, he raises his flag. Meh.

The one I'm most annoyed about is the clear penalty we should have had. It's not even debatable, he's clearly inside the box, and it's a handball. Abysmal.

I'd argue we were the better team even with 10 men. Sunderland really were dire, worst team we've played this season. Looking at there run in, they could be in serious trouble
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Mar 2013, 3:41 pm

What's happened to Adam Johnson? Another David Bentley methinks.

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Post by guildfordbat Sun 17 Mar 2013, 4:03 pm

Good gutsy performance from Norwich. Deserved more than a point.

Sunderland looking very ordinary and must be relieved they already have 30 plus points in the bank. A goal for Graham seems a long way off.

Poor work from the officials as emphasised understandably by Olly and others.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Mar 2013, 4:05 pm

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A.Johnson £10m, Sessegnon £6.7m, Wickham £12m, Fletcher £12m, Graham £5m. £45m of attacking players. Awful. #SAFC

Think that pretty much sums Sunderland up at the moment. Fletcher and Graham just do not work together at all. Just look to be far too similar players to me
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Mar 2013, 4:12 pm

Bale 0-1 Fulham
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Mar 2013, 4:12 pm

Are the wheels starting to come off at White Hart Lane?

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 17 Mar 2013, 4:22 pm

Wigan 1-0 Newcastle.

Chelsea 1-0 West Ham - Frank Lampard with his 200 goal #Legend

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 17 Mar 2013, 4:22 pm

St. Totteringham's day! No, I reckon they'll be fine; they'll get 4th.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Mar 2013, 4:23 pm

FreekShow wrote:Are the wheels starting to come off at White Hart Lane?

Never good when Fulham are beating you away from Craven Cottage
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Mar 2013, 4:28 pm

Can't believe that wasn't a red card for McManaman. Awful awful tackle
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 17 Mar 2013, 4:29 pm

It was very dangerous, another poor bit of officiating we have seen this weekend. Dreadful tackle.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 17 Mar 2013, 4:32 pm

It's a bit fitting that Frank gets his 200 against West Ham. I wouldn't bet against him tying the record today either. Any rumours on his next move?
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Post by Ent Sun 17 Mar 2013, 4:55 pm

FreekShow wrote:What's happened to Adam Johnson? Another David Bentley methinks.

He was never any good, people are just daft.

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Post by Crimey Sun 17 Mar 2013, 4:59 pm

Ent wrote:
FreekShow wrote:What's happened to Adam Johnson? Another David Bentley methinks.

He was never any good, people are just daft.

A mythos arose around him because he played so little for City and wasn't selected enough by England that people started to think he was much better than he actually was. The same thing happened to Joe Cole around 2010.

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Post by Ent Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:01 pm

Perhaps controversial but I believe this is a case of people judging a tackle based on the resulting damage it has done.

McManaman goes to kick the ball and clear everything out imo, the fullback gets a toe to it and unluckily gets hurt - normally he just would have got a kick on the shin pad.

I'll have to watch it a few more times though.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:03 pm

Oh that's a horrific challenge. It doesn't matter a jot what the circumstances are, that's a red card and a 5 game ban. At least. http://footballfunnys.lockerdome.com/articles/106764256
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:05 pm

Tottenham 0-1 Fulham. Wow that will come back to bite them.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:06 pm

Ent wrote:Perhaps controversial but I believe this is a case of people judging a tackle based on the resulting damage it has done.

McManaman goes to kick the ball and clear everything out imo, the fullback gets a toe to it and unluckily gets hurt - normally he just would have got a kick on the shin pad.

I'll have to watch it a few more times though.

It was above knee height and we went absolutely flying in. Terrible challenge.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:06 pm

Tottenham 0-1 Fulham. Wow that will come back to bite them.

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:09 pm

Crimey wrote:
Ent wrote:
FreekShow wrote:What's happened to Adam Johnson? Another David Bentley methinks.

He was never any good, people are just daft.

A mythos arose around him because he played so little for City and wasn't selected enough by England that people started to think he was much better than he actually was. The same thing happened to Joe Cole around 2010.

But when he did play for City he looked very good on occasions.

Joe Cole has always been overrated.

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Post by Ent Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:11 pm

McManaman is clearly trying to kick the ball, it's a foul and a yellow - possibly a red as he's gone in very hard, but it is really bad luck he has caught the guy so badly and injured him.

I don't think there is any need to victimise a young player and really people are being very reactionary because the defender has been injured.

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:11 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Oh that's a horrific challenge. It doesn't matter a jot what the circumstances are, that's a red card and a 5 game ban. At least. http://footballfunnys.lockerdome.com/articles/106764256

My god it looks brutal on that replay.

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Post by Ent Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:12 pm

Perch has just done the same thing albeit with less force and no bad luck.

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Post by Ent Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:13 pm

FreekShow wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Oh that's a horrific challenge. It doesn't matter a jot what the circumstances are, that's a red card and a 5 game ban. At least. http://footballfunnys.lockerdome.com/articles/106764256

My god it looks brutal on that replay.

The contact is brutal and it looks worse in slow motion but you can cleary see he is trying to kick the ball and caught him by accident (IMO), he couldn't have complained if he walked as he went in very hard and missed the ball but I just hope he doesn't get victimised the way others have when theyve accidentally injured people.

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Post by GSC Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:14 pm

Ent wrote:Perch has just done the same thing albeit with less force and no bad luck.

Well that justifies McMannaman
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Post by Lumbering_Jack Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:14 pm

Stop talking rubbish Ent. Always one.

Perch pulled out, wasn't above knee height and wasn't flying in with both feet off the ground. Other than that they are pretty much the same I agree.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:15 pm

Just seen the horror tackle. Ouch. Very much 'Keane on Haaland' I thought.

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Post by GSC Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:16 pm

Is there a point you don't take the opposite view on Ent?

Seriously, all I see you do on this topic is argue Laugh
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Post by Ent Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:16 pm

Think you need to calm down and watch the tackle.

Mcmanaman has gone to kick the ball, missed and caught him on the follow through by accident.

If not for bad luck and the fullback had been able to play on there would be barely any chat about it.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:16 pm

Ent you're talking complete rubbish mate.

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Post by Ent Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:18 pm

Duty281 wrote:Just seen the horror tackle. Ouch. Very much 'Keane on Haaland' I thought.

Nothing like it though is it, I mean Keane goes high and stamps down on Haaland on purpose. McManaman goes to kick the ball, misses and hits him on the follow through.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:18 pm

We have all watched the tackle. Given you are the one saying it isn't that bad, or was an accident, and we all disagree would suggest you are a blithering idiot, or are just disagreeing for the sake of it.

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Post by GSC Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:19 pm

I'm sorry, you can't defend that. Regardless of his intent for the ball, its very dangerous. Can't tackle like that.
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Post by Lumbering_Jack Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:19 pm

Ent wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Just seen the horror tackle. Ouch. Very much 'Keane on Haaland' I thought.

Nothing like it though is it, I mean Keane goes high and stamps down on Haaland on purpose. McManaman goes to kick the ball, misses and hits him on the follow through.

Yeah it was an accident. Bit like when I dropped my cup of water this morning.

Poor lad.

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Post by Ent Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:20 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Ent you're talking complete rubbish mate.

I don't think so, hes going to blast the ball with his instep imo. Quite unlucky on all counts as the fullback seems badly injured and this guys going to get victimised.

Carvers behaviour was disgraceful imo.

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Post by GSC Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:22 pm

Yeah he misses the ball. However he goes in with extreme force which makes it dangerous. Fortunately Haidara doesn't seem too badly hurt, those often end up in broken bones
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:22 pm

Well everyone else seems to disagree with you.

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Post by Ent Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:23 pm

I'm not defending it, he went in very hard and missed the ball - couldn't have complained if he'd got a red.

I just think people are judging it based on what has happened to the defender, rather than the incident itself and I wouldn't like to see a young player victimised in the way others have been in the past when they have unluckily caused bad injuries.

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:24 pm

2-0 down against chelsea Sad Sad

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:24 pm

I don't think he's gonna be victimised for it, he's made a bad tackle, should be a red card, it happens.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:24 pm

CF wrote:2-0 down against chelsea Sad Sad

Game away at Stamford Bridge isn't gonna define your season
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Post by GSC Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:25 pm

I think you're talking crap mate. Though based on your posting history you seem to get a kick out of arguing stupid points for some reason. So enjoy.
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Post by Guest Sun 17 Mar 2013, 5:25 pm

Olly wrote:
CF wrote:2-0 down against chelsea Sad Sad

Game away at Stamford Bridge isn't gonna define your season

i know but its still dissapointing..

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