Munster A v Leinster A

by red_stag Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:00 pm

Looking forward to this clash tomorrow. Sadly I'll be working but great to see some lads getting back from injury - Luke O'Dea, Niall Ronan, Sean Dougall and Paul O'Connell. Also a good chance for new combinations to get a chance so should be good to see.

01 James Cronin
02 Sean Henry
03 John Ryan
04 Dave Foley
05 Paul O'Connell
06 Niall Ronan
07 Sean Dougall
08 CJ Stander
09 Cathal Sheridan
10 JJ Hanrahan
11 Ronan O'Mahony
12 Ivan Dineen
13 Danny Barnes
14 Luke O'Dea
15 Johne Murphy

16 M Horan
17 D Casey
18 N Scannell
19 K Griffin
20 D O'Callaghan
21 B Slater
22 C Bohane
23 C Hircock
24 S Scanlon
25 J Holland

by Jenifer McLadyboy Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:08 pm

No sign of a Leinster team yet but you could see the likes of Quinn Roux and Kevin McLaughlin up against Big Paulie and Stander.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:20 pm

Up now

LEINSTER ‘A’:

15: Noel Reid
14: Andrew Boyle
13: Jordan Coghlan
12: Colm O’Shea
11: Sam Coghlan-Murray
10: Cathal Marsh
9: John Cooney

1: Jack O’Connell
2: Aaron Dundon CAPTAIN
3: Martin Moore
4: Mark Flanagan
5: Quinn Roux
6: Ben Marshall
7: Conor Gilsenan
8: Leo Auva’a

REPLACEMENTS:

16: James Tracey
17: Jack McGrath
18: Tadhg Furlong
19: Tadhg Beirne
20: Dan Leavy
21: Adam Griggs
22: Fionn Carr
23: Andrew Conway
24: David Doyle

http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/newsroom/11127.php

by Jenifer McLadyboy Mon 11 Mar 2013, 1:26 pm

Like the look of that Leinster side.

16 is a lad who converted from LH this season to hooker.

24 is another hooker. Reputed to be strong as an ox for his age.

Dundon is the oldest player on the park. Auva'a is the only other starting player over about 23.

by Mickado Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:08 pm

Have Munster got injuries to props or is Horan just they only bench option at this level?

by Jenifer McLadyboy Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:12 pm

Mickado wrote:Have Munster got injuries to props or is Horan just they only bench option at this level?

Feck all props in their academy

by red_stag Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:13 pm

Mick,

We dont have that many looseheads. Dave Kilcoyne, Wian du Preez and Marcus Horan are our senior looseheads. James Cronin is in the academy.

We have used tighthead props Alan Cotter and John Ryan at loosehead at times. Darragh Hurley who retired last year aged 26 after seasons of constant injury could have actually been a good player.

by red_stag Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:16 pm

At tighthead we have far more options.

BJ Botha is the starter. Stephen Archer is developing nicely enough as his understudy. We also have John Ryan and Alan Cotter. We arranged with London Irish and Bath to send these guys on loan to England for a few months earlier this year.

As a backup there is Christy Condon, an experienced All Ireland League prop who is a good scrummager but at age 31 is a late bloomer who will earn a wage as squad cover.

by Mickado Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:26 pm

Ah right, fair enough. When is Du Preez's contract up?

by Jenifer McLadyboy Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:28 pm

Mickado wrote:Ah right, fair enough. When is Du Preez's contract up?

Next year. But they may feck him under the bus in an attempt to keep Botha.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Mon 11 Mar 2013, 2:32 pm

red_stag wrote:James Cronin is in the academy.

AFAIK this guy is the only prop in the academy on either side.

by LeinsterFan4life Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:38 pm

Can't see past a Munster win. But should be great experience for our young lads to play against the great. POC.

by **Notch** Mon 11 Mar 2013, 3:59 pm

Munster have got a backrow on the wing?

by red_stag Mon 11 Mar 2013, 4:09 pm

Notch wrote:Munster have got a backrow on the wing?

No you're thinking of Barry O'Mahony. Thats his brother. Ronan O'Mahony is a back three player.

by LeinsterFan4life Mon 11 Mar 2013, 4:21 pm

Is Barry injured? Haven't seen him since the start of the season.

by red_stag Mon 11 Mar 2013, 4:56 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Is Barry injured? Haven't seen him since the start of the season.

Not that I know of. Just finding it hard to get a chance. He is playing a lot for Munster A but the competition for backrow is fierce.

- Dave O'Callaghan
- Sean Dougall
- CJ Stander
- Niall Ronan
- Peter O'Mahony
- Tommy O'Donnell
- James Coughlan

I think I'm right in saying all of them have got Heineken Cup matches under their belt.

by **Notch** Mon 11 Mar 2013, 6:04 pm

Ah good... thats a relief. Maybe Penney is getting through down there!

by Golden Mon 11 Mar 2013, 7:04 pm

How come Stander has gotten such little gametime? I know he was injured but hes back a good while.

by valjester Tue 12 Mar 2013, 1:11 am

Golden wrote:How come Stander has gotten such little gametime? I know he was injured but hes back a good while.

Besides the injury he hasn't really had a break since he was playing SuperRugby and Currie Cup all year. I think the management are trying to make sure he doesn't get burned out and are restricting his game time.

Absolutely delighted to see POC back, really hope he manages to make it through the game without picking up another injury.

by red_stag Tue 12 Mar 2013, 9:32 am

Golden wrote:How come Stander has gotten such little gametime? I know he was injured but hes back a good while.

A combination of his injury, testing out other combinations and making sure he gets a break ahead of the big games later in the year.

by Mickado Tue 12 Mar 2013, 4:20 pm

Munster win 24-17

Munster tries from winger O'Mahony and centre Barnes, three penalties and a conversion from Hanrahan, and a drop goal from Deasy.
Leinster tries from Conway and Marsh, two conversion and a penalty from Reid.

by red_stag Tue 12 Mar 2013, 4:24 pm

Munster 29-12 Leinster

Munster tries from winger O'Mahony, Conway and centre Barnes, three penalties and a conversion from Hanrahan, and a drop goal from Deasy.
Leinster try from Marsh, two conversion and a penalty from Reid.

Very Happy

by Submachine Tue 12 Mar 2013, 4:35 pm

How'd the big red lad get on?

by red_stag Tue 12 Mar 2013, 4:36 pm

Submachine wrote:How'd the big red lad get on?

Played the first 40 minutes. Taken off then.

by Submachine Tue 12 Mar 2013, 4:44 pm

Cheers. Hope he makes a full recovery and makes a push for Lions selection/captaincy. Be good to see him firing for Munster at the business end of the Heino as well.

by red_stag Tue 12 Mar 2013, 4:46 pm

I dont think he should be anywhere near the Lions personally.

Reckon that it wouldn't be a good move. No player is entitled to play - lots of other options.

I actually think we'd nearly see the best of O'Connell if he didnt have one eye on the tour.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Tue 12 Mar 2013, 4:48 pm

red_stag wrote:Munster 29-12 Leinster

Munster tries from winger O'Mahony, Conway and centre Barnes, three penalties and a conversion from Hanrahan, and a drop goal from Deasy.
Leinster try from Marsh, two conversion and a penalty from Reid.

bad maths or a joke I'm not getting there.

1 try and 2 conversions is a handy trick for a start.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Tue 12 Mar 2013, 4:49 pm

Ah I get it now. conway the double agent. Very Happy

by Submachine Tue 12 Mar 2013, 5:28 pm

red_stag wrote:I dont think he should be anywhere near the Lions personally.

Reckon that it wouldn't be a good move. No player is entitled to play - lots of other options.

I actually think we'd nearly see the best of O'Connell if he didnt have one eye on the tour.

If he's fully fit and firing at the end of the season I'd say he's a cert to go for what would surely be his last tour. Don't think anyone would begrudge him that. The speed of his return is a bit of a worry though and I think you're right to be concerned if he is pushing himself too far too soon as always.

by Sin é Tue 12 Mar 2013, 7:17 pm

red_stag wrote:I dont think he should be anywhere near the Lions personally.

Reckon that it wouldn't be a good move. No player is entitled to play - lots of other options.

I actually think we'd nearly see the best of O'Connell if he didnt have one eye on the tour.

You're a bit dismissive of his previous experience of tours - especially important on this one as there will be a lot of first time tourists. I reckon he is worth the ticket to the Lions for that alone (and of course his leadership).

Your other point about him having an eye on the tour just doesn't make sense.

Lots of photos of Gatland chatting with Alan Quinlan at Ireland training today! Looks like Quinlan is an embedded media person now for the IRFU!

by pete (buachaill on eirne) Wed 13 Mar 2013, 4:21 pm

I think POC will have a very tough time getting to the Lions tour. He has shown too many times that he returns from an injury and then gets another shortly after.

I'd be with Stag on this one it would be best for him to maybe just focus on getting fit and then up to form. If he doesn't get selected to go on the Lions I am not sure he should go to North America with Ireland either.

by Sin é Wed 13 Mar 2013, 4:45 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:I think POC will have a very tough time getting to the Lions tour. He has shown too many times that he returns from an injury and then gets another shortly after.

I'd be with Stag on this one it would be best for him to maybe just focus on getting fit and then up to form. If he doesn't get selected to go on the Lions I am not sure he should go to North America with Ireland either.

He has just had the best part of 12 months free rugby - does he seriously need more rest? I can't see him staying at home for the tour to the US (which will hardly be streneous) if he doesn't make the Lions.

He had an op to rectify his reoccurring back injury (same op as Rob Kearney had).

Munster coach Rob Penney was delighted with how O’Connell’s comeback had gone. Penney didn’t rule out the possibility of O’Connell featuring for Young Munster in their home AIL match with Cork Con this Saturday.

“I’m really pleased for him that he got through 40 minutes and looked vigorous,” Penney said.

“I was watching him closely around the contact area, the areas you need to be robust and he could have been potentially compromised but he didn’t look like he was flinching at any time. He looks like he is on the mend and he is on track for a little bit more footie in the next week or so.

“We will see how he backs up. The next 48 hours will be a big indicator of his ability to play in the next few weeks.

“The next 48 hours will determine if he plays for his club this weekend. If it is the right thing for Paul, then it’s the right thing. I love the guys playing their club rugby when they can.”

Interview here with him after the match yesterday. Seems to be very happy with his time on the pitch.

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/matchdaytv/?play=media&id=14671

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