Bradly fight

Anyone watching this good fight!!bradley trainer almost stopping the fight early on

excellent fight. Bradley is no where near the elite level and this fight showed that. But great fight and I was impressed that bradley could box a smart fight when things were going bad.

1st, 2nd and 12th round bradley took a beating tho.

Great fight Bradley close to being stopped early to come back and win a war! Bradley down in 12 only to be saved by the bell 30 seconds longer and would've lost! Bradley has some chin! Also 1st round shouldve been a knockdown aswell but wasn't given

score cards

Bradley won ud 114-113 twice and 115-112 deserved to win

I said when this fight was announced that it could be tough for Bradley. This guy has good power and can throw hurtful punches with both hands.

Didn't get to watch it and am regretting reading this thread now

ShahenshahG wrote:Didn't get to watch it and am regretting reading this thread now

I'm with you on that shah P***********************************************SED!

Not sure about the knockdown in the first round. A huge punch landed but Bradley had hold and got pushed down.

You could argue that rounds 1 and 2 should have been 10-8 rounds as well. Bradley was out on his feet in both and was getting smashed around the ring with very little coming back.

I wish I watched it but like Shah and One Two... I was mullered last night.

Are there any uploads of this one yet?

Hope this link works:

https://youtu.be/caKbFfguCqo

Didn't see the full right so I can't really make a proper judgement, but just from these highlights Bradley took a serious beating! How on earth did he win? Great chin, but that's a career shortening fight.

From watching that clip, Bradley is one lucky boy that the fight wasn't stopped. If that was in a British ring then it would have been waived off. Great heart shown by Bradley, but Provodnikov looks seriously heavy handed. By the looks of it he isn't a fully fledged Welter either.

How did anyone who watched the fight score it?

ap scored it to bradley by one point. Prov looks like hes got similar type of power to golovkin.

He might be heavy handed but he looks decidedly average, wild lunging punches that make Maidana look cultured. I haven't seen the whole fight but someone who's being that badly hurt so often can't surely have won.

Agreed he did look a little wild but his opponents till now havent been great- maybe he'll learn. He looks like he could do with throwing a few more body punches but havent yet seen the whole fight so reserve further judgement till then.

What a highlight reel!!!! Was this a Fight of the Year contender??

How can Bradley have won? If your hurt like that during rounds it's normally enough to give it to the other guy....unless he dished out almighty beatings himself?

The rounds Bradley lost he lost badly but he won a lot of the middle rounds by boxing rather than trading! He said that prov hits harder than pac and will beat anyone 140-147 but i cant see it hes so limited and i couldnt see mayweather even losing a round to him, Defiantly FOTY contender tho and I think that was his first fight at 147

Diamond in the rough wrote:The rounds Bradley lost he lost badly but he won a lot of the middle rounds by boxing rather than trading! He said that prov hits harder than pac and will beat anyone 140-147 but i cant see it hes so limited and i couldnt see mayweather even losing a round to him, Defiantly FOTY contender tho and I think that was his first fight at 147

It should not be foty in my eye. There was only 4 exciting rounds 1,2,5 and 12. Those were the four rounds that prov won. All the rounds bradley won was just bradley running away and jabbing which was very boring.

TheMackemMawler wrote:What a highlight reel!!!! Was this a Fight of the Year contender??

How can Bradley have won? If your hurt like that during rounds it's normally enough to give it to the other guy....unless he dished out almighty beatings himself?

Bradley def won in my eyes. Bradley won 8 rounds nd he won those 8 rounds very easily by jabbing and moving away.

It looks as though the 1st and the 12th should have been 10-8 rounds so if Bradley won eight rounds then it should have been a draw, correct?

I've not seen the fight yet but that was a very one sided highlight reel, I am amazed that Bradley didn't get stopped in the first couple of rounds. He was all over the place!

From what I've read though, Bradley was able to gain control in rounds 3, 4 and 5, and then again from 7-11 boxing behind the jab and it was a close but fair decision that went his way.

I've been looking for a link for the full fight but haven't found one yet. This is the first I've seen of Provodnikov and it does look like he has a mighty dig, he's very wild though and unless he can be more refined with how he throws his shots I don't think he will trouble the top of the division. Mayweather, Marquez, Guerrero etc wouldn't have too much trouble with him.

TheMackemMawler wrote:It looks as though the 1st and the 12th should have been 10-8 rounds so if Bradley won eight rounds then it should have been a draw, correct?

That would make it a two point fight for Bradley.

Cheers.

Scoring hurts my head. I'm going to sit down with a calculator and work it out.

80 + 18 +16 = 114

72 + 40 = 112

(BTW I didn't need a calculator)

Try watching a fight before scoring it..it tends to help..

I scored it 8 rounds to 4 in favour of Bradley, with two 10-8 rounds in favour of Provodnikin so that makes it 114-112 to Bradley

Braldey won those 8 rounds based on outworking Ruslan just riddling his face with litter patter shots but scored twice as much as Ruslan did

Got to admire Bradley's chin, took some monster shots, and decided to trade with Ruslan to make it exciting whereas he could have made it boring as he usually does but his legs shouldn't be going jelly as often as that agaisnt a natural LWW

His mandatory is Thurman and if he gets wobbled that much you can't imagine him taking Thurman's power

Hopefully they can make Provodnikov vs Rios/Alvarado II winner, FOTY guarantee

Thruman also tends to get hit alot though - any parallels between these two (have only seen the highlight)

It reminded me a bit of maidana khan fight when khan was winning but every time maidana hit him it was hurting him which made it exciting viewing! So even tho the rounds Bradley won wher not as entertaining it still made for great viewing therefore a contender for FOTY! Altho with rios fight coming up it might be made to look timid in comparison

Saw it live, thought Bradlly was going to go towards the end of the second. Hope we get a ref like this for the Rios/Alvarado rematch, I'm not saying the first one was stopped early, can't fault the ref in that, but it's always a thrill to see a fighter survive a barrage.


Nothing wrong with Bradly's heart, we've always known that, but his chin is showing signs of wear. Of course, he suffered a concussion early so maybe you can give him the benefit of the doubt. I'll bet though that if Rios gets him hurt like that next up, he won't let him off the hook. I now make Rios a big favourite in that one. (Whoops, read above his mandatory is Thurman.)


The rounds Bradly lost, he lost big, but I think Bradley just about deserved it, though the picture I was watching wasn't quite as sharp as you'd have liked. It's great though to be able to follow the game for literally the first time ever.

Never thought I'd see Bradley in a fight like that!

Excellent bout, and I'd disagree that it was only the rounds which Provodnikov won which were exciting. Bradley definitely controlled the middle stages but there were still plenty of worthwhile exchanges from both men within them.

Provodnikov was unhappy with the decision but, when he watches the fight back, I think he'll be kicking himself a little bit when he sees how often he moved Bradley in to a dangerous position or situation between rounds three and ten but then never quite followed it up. Bradley should really have stuck to his boxing; when he started doubling and tripling his jab and looked to score points going away he was comfortably the better man. But I suspect that the criticism he's received over the Pacquiao fight and decision has left him feeling a little too macho and, as a result, he really made things harder for himself last night than he should have done.

Anyway, a great, great fight which I scored 115-113 in Bradley's favour. I gave him the third, fourth, fifth, seventh, eighth, ninth and tenth, with Provodnikov taking the first, second, eleventh and twelfth, which was obviously a 10-8. I had the sixth even; Bradley was hurt badly at the death, but had controlled most of the round beforehand pretty nicely. Wouldn't object to anyone giving it to Provodnikov particularly but I didn't feel sure either way when I saw it.

Top class entertainment, though.

Only seen the highlights and would be indebted to anybody who could link me to the full fight.

Although this has maybe shown up Timothy as being considerably lower than elite - and not made Manny look great either - it has also shown that his heart and determination is incredible. There were moments when Ruslan must've been wondering what the hell he had to do to get rid of him. He was flapping around on the canvas like a fish out of water in the first round and still managed to win? Amazing stuff.

I don't see the Golovkin comparison really. Ruslan seems like much more of a plodder with little defense and swingy punches. Golovkin's pretty tight and throws short shots while closing off the ring very well. Speaking of hefty punchers, hows about Provodnikov v Mathysse??

I actually gave the fight to Provodnikov, because only because he got 3 10-8 rounds (1,2 & 12) and I gave him the 6th as well. I think you have to score the first round 10-8 because although the ref didn't give a knockdown it clearly was. Even when Bradley gets back up he is stumbling around like a drunk.

That said, what a fight and had Bradley not got caught, he would have won clearly.

In a rematch Provodnikov has a punchers chance and that's all, Bradley was clearly outboxing him and saying all he was doing was jabbing is a massive disservice to the effort Bradley put in. He landed some great shots as well.

My score card was 113-112 to Provodnikov, but the judges have to rule the way that the referee does in terms of knockdowns, so a draw is fair.

The score cards don't tell the story of the fight though and I really have no problem with Bradley winning because he pretty dominated the majority of the fight.

As Chris pointed out Provodnikov will be kicking himself when he sees it back, he had Bradley in big trouble against the ropes a few times and must have missed with nearly all of his wilde swings. Had he showed some form of composure, I have no doubt he would have got him out of there.

Have to say it again, but Bradley deserves massive credit for this and I will definitely be looking forward to his next fight, this one was an absolute war and a great fight even without 1,2 & 12.

I don't expect to see him in with any of the real bangers any time soon like Rios, Matthyse or Maidana.

Strange how Bradley gets a lot of credit for being taken all the way by a very average boxer with no reputation as a puncher but Khan got derided for the Maidana fight.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:I don't expect to see him in with any of the real bangers any time soon like Rios, Matthyse or Maidana.

Strange how Bradley gets a lot of credit for being taken all the way by a very average boxer with no reputation as a puncher but Khan got derided for the Maidana fight.

Ones British mate, duh!!!

Who exactly derides Khan for the Maidana fight though, Ghosty? In many people's eyes that fight was the high point of his career so far.

If people are saying that Bradley was too reckless, too brave for his own good and poor defensively last night, then I'd agree. There's plenty of bits to work on and, although I rate him, I do think that Arum is going to be left disappointed if he's planning on marketing Bradley as Pacquiao's long-term successor as the golden egg at Top Rank as Manny's star begins to wane.

But watching the fight, you just can't help but be impressed with Bradley in certain other ways. His heart, chin and courage are all outstanding (although he could maybe do with taking some muscle away from that Greek god-like upper body of his and adding it to his legs, because his ankles look like they're going to betray him a bit too often for comfort!).

Ironically enough, this performance may well help Bradley bag a big name or two, the sort of name which, in theory, should have come after the Pacquiao fight. The top men from Light-Welter and Welter will really fancy their chances if he turns in another wild, macho display like that and, of course, after the surprise of this fight there should be more fans ready to shell out to see him in action.

Must say, though, that I was very surprised at Bradley's in-ring weight of 159.5 lb.

Well I can see Provodkinov being used as a gatekeeper to the division now so he will have gained massively from it too.

I suppose my comment was aimed more at the vocal minority who like to use the Maidana fight against Khan saying he should have lost, if there was one more round, the usual guff really.

Bradley should be commended for his resilience but it's not the kind of fight where he should be relying on such things, against Holt I can forgive him but it's becoming a far too common occurrence now, the big punchers will be gunning for him and rightly so.

That ring weight doesn't seem overly big if i'm honest Chris but he and Khan despite being the best two boxers in and around the division (Mayweather and Marquez aside) are going to find it increasingly difficult to stay at the top with so many big punchers about.

Rios, Matthyse, Garcia and Thurman will be licking their lips at the prospect of facing either of them.

The ring weight seems normal, I was surprised to hear hed been walking around at 185lbs.

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Only seen the highlights and would be indebted to anybody who could link me to the full fight.

Although this has maybe shown up Timothy as being considerably lower than elite - and not made Manny look great either - it has also shown that his heart and determination is incredible. There were moments when Ruslan must've been wondering what the hell he had to do to get rid of him. He was flapping around on the canvas like a fish out of water in the first round and still managed to win? Amazing stuff.

I don't see the Golovkin comparison really. Ruslan seems like much more of a plodder with little defense and swingy punches. Golovkin's pretty tight and throws short shots while closing off the ring very well. Speaking of hefty punchers, hows about Provodnikov v Mathysse??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF51n1e5dug

I wouldn't normally be alarmed by a ring weight of just under 160 for a Welter, Ghosty, but I was a little surprised here seeing as Bradley is such a small Welter who could probably make 140 lb without any trouble at all even now. Bradley's game is built largely around speed, and I wouldn't want to see him losing any of that.

That said, his conditioning and fitness were absolutely immense last night and they needed to be, so maybe it's a red herring.

Even at 160lbs he must be one of the smaller welterweights out there, hell the 140lb guys don't weigh much less than that and some even weigh more. His stamina for somebody with his physique surprises but he clearly puts a hell of a lot of work in at the gym. I like him but he's going to find it increasingly difficult from now on.

I remember reading that prior the Pacquiao fight his trainer said he dissapeared and wasn't answering his phone. When Bradley was asked about it he said he'd been doing high altitude training on his own and left his phone at home.

The guy appears to put some huge miles on fitness wise, stamina isn't a question with Bradley.

I don't think Bradley will struggle with sluggers, he just went to war in this fight. If Bradley boxes and moves he will dominate them.

Yea Bradley's conditioning has always been one of his strongest assets of his game

I heard last night that he weighed as much as 185lbs before he got into camp. That's a hell of a lot of weight to cut, no wonder his legs looked so much more rubbery (a little like Salido and Gamboa's were last time out after cutting so much weight) and he used to do the same at LWW. He doenst have alot of fat too so he has to lose muscle which is harder to get rid of

I just don't think he is a welterweight as he's too small, regardless of ring weight, and doenst carry enough pop. He hit Ruslan a lot but never had him in any trouble and was walked down as that guy was a LWW who lets not forget for easily beaten by Herrera

Yeah but he'll get less money for it. Hes going to trade every so often just to keep his money up otherwise he'll get thecube root of eff all

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote: who lets not forget for easily beaten by Herrera

I haven't seen the fight, but the Bradley fight commentators said it was a controversial decision. Are you telling me boxing commentators bend the truth?

BoxingFan88 wrote:I don't think Bradley will struggle with sluggers, he just went to war in this fight. If Bradley boxes and moves he will dominate them.

Which leads to the very simple question, why did he not do that against Provodkinov?

It's a bit of a disservice branding Provodkinov as a pure slugger. Sure his defense is that of a slugger, and his foot work is that of a plodder, but his offense and combination punching is short, fast and accurate. He was wild at times but he was quite a bit better than a pure slugger.

Get him back down to 140 and stick him in with Rios or Matthysse, keep him at 147 and stick him in with Maidana, party in my pants for those.

AlexHuckerby wrote:Get him back down to 140 and stick him in with Rios or Matthysse, keep him at 147 and stick him in with Maidana, party in my pants for those.

Didn't think this fight would be much cop so didn't stay up for it. Any fight with Bradley usually makes me wonder why I'd wake up! The link further up in the article has stopped working.. link below's fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF51n1e5dug

Provodnikov vs Maidana is a fight I'd pay to see. FOTY candidate if ever there was one.