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Bradly fight
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Anyone watching this good fight!!bradley trainer almost stopping the fight early on
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Diamond in the rough- Posts : 420
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Re: Bradly fight
Bradley came in a middleweight. But the ref made a bad call not scoring the first round a kd to Prov. Also its arguable that R2 should have been a 10-8 round. With R12 a 10-8 the fight should have been a draw if my maths is correct. I scored 8 of the remaining rounds to Tim.
Some clever bod do the maths please.
Some clever bod do the maths please.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Bradly fight
That would have made it a 113-112 card in Bradley's favour by my reckoning, Az.
Wasn't completely sure on the knockdown ruling in the first, but I'd say that a 10-8 score for the second would be very harsh on Bradley. He was rocked and hurt in that round, yes, but Provodnikov didn't dominate enough or control the action for enough of the round in terms of time to justify a two point margin.
Although Bradley's performance wasn't what people had expected, I think he'd have been unlucky to go home without the win, albeit it wasn't a particularly convincing one.
Wasn't completely sure on the knockdown ruling in the first, but I'd say that a 10-8 score for the second would be very harsh on Bradley. He was rocked and hurt in that round, yes, but Provodnikov didn't dominate enough or control the action for enough of the round in terms of time to justify a two point margin.
Although Bradley's performance wasn't what people had expected, I think he'd have been unlucky to go home without the win, albeit it wasn't a particularly convincing one.
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Re: Bradly fight
Ah well. Great fight though and credit to the bravery and toughness of both guys. I have to say that Prov is one crude mofo with his uncultured wild swings. Reminds me of boxers from yesteryear. Immensely tough and durable.
To me Bradley is very beatable. He's a jack of all trades and a master of none. Very clever boxer with good ring smarts. A more cultured approach would take his zero away legitimately.
To me Bradley is very beatable. He's a jack of all trades and a master of none. Very clever boxer with good ring smarts. A more cultured approach would take his zero away legitimately.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Bradly fight
azania wrote:Bradley came in a middleweight. But the ref made a bad call not scoring the first round a kd to Prov. Also its arguable that R2 should have been a 10-8 round. With R12 a 10-8 the fight should have been a draw if my maths is correct. I scored 8 of the remaining rounds to Tim.
Some clever bod do the maths please.
Didn't you give Provodnikov the 6th either? I thought he won that one.
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Re: Bradly fight
It was an entertaining contest but Bradley actually fought a poor fight which is surprising for him as he is usually a canny fighter. He could have won this more comfortably but made hard work of it.
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Re: Bradly fight
BoxingFan88 wrote:azania wrote:Bradley came in a middleweight. But the ref made a bad call not scoring the first round a kd to Prov. Also its arguable that R2 should have been a 10-8 round. With R12 a 10-8 the fight should have been a draw if my maths is correct. I scored 8 of the remaining rounds to Tim.
Some clever bod do the maths please.
Didn't you give Provodnikov the 6th either? I thought he won that one.
EVen so, having looked at R2 again, it didn't warrant a 10-8 as I suggested earlier. Tim won the fight. Good fight and credit to both guys.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Bradly fight
Some chatter on Twitter, Wingy included, that if Khan had been in the same shape as Bradley the fight would've been stopped.
Haven't caught the fight yet, any truth in that?
Haven't caught the fight yet, any truth in that?
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Re: Bradly fight
TopHat24/7 wrote:Some chatter on Twitter, Wingy included, that if Khan had been in the same shape as Bradley the fight would've been stopped.
Haven't caught the fight yet, any truth in that?
I don't particularly think so. I'd say that Bradley's panic moments weren't quite as bad as Khan's in that tenth round against Maidana, for instance, and Khan was given the benefit of the doubt in that one, just as he was for as long as was humanly possible against Garcia. Again, I don't think Bradley was ever in the same degree of trouble as Khan was at the end of the third and throughout the fourth against 'Swift.'
You could argue that Khan's reputation for being vulnerable might have influenced the referee to jump in, I guess, but that's just speculation.
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Re: Bradly fight
TopHat24/7 wrote: You could argue that Khan's reputation for being vulnerable might have influenced the referee to jump in, I guess, but that's just speculation.
Khan wouldn't have taken any of those shot's.
I think reputations influence referees, especially the other way. You only have to watch a Carl Thompson fight to see that.
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Re: Bradly fight
TheMackemMawler wrote:TopHat24/7 wrote: You could argue that Khan's reputation for being vulnerable might have influenced the referee to jump in, I guess, but that's just speculation.
Khan wouldn't have taken any of those shot's.
I think reputations influence referees, especially the other way. You only have to watch a Carl Thompson fight to see that.
You're right about reputations influencing referees and when they stop fights, just look at that Enzo Mac fight where Ian John Lewis stopped it for next to nothing. Compare that to Bradley on Saturday who was all over the place at times and was allowed to continue.
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Re: Bradly fight
It's easy to be brave when you're the one not getting punched!
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Re: Bradly fight
Scored this one last night:
B = 114
9* 8 10 10 10 9** 10 10 10 10 10*** 8
P = 112
10 10 9 9 9 10 9 9 9 9 9 10
* I would have scored the KD, but it wasn’t called by the ref, so you can’t score it. Even then it could easily have been 10-8, but I think Tim did just enough to keep it 10-9
** Bradley clearly had it up until Provodkinov really hurt him – tough to score. I give it to Provodkinov because he was so close to KOing him. To me, when you come that close to finishing someone, then its very effective aggression. Still could have went either way.
*** Very close - could have went either way.
I think the only way that Provodkinov wins this is if you give him 10-8 in rds 1, 2, and 12 then give him the benefit of the doubt in the close rounds - 6 and 11. I think Bradley's stock went up in this one. I don't necessarily think he's a better fighter than I did before, but I certainly want to watch him more!
B = 114
9* 8 10 10 10 9** 10 10 10 10 10*** 8
P = 112
10 10 9 9 9 10 9 9 9 9 9 10
* I would have scored the KD, but it wasn’t called by the ref, so you can’t score it. Even then it could easily have been 10-8, but I think Tim did just enough to keep it 10-9
** Bradley clearly had it up until Provodkinov really hurt him – tough to score. I give it to Provodkinov because he was so close to KOing him. To me, when you come that close to finishing someone, then its very effective aggression. Still could have went either way.
*** Very close - could have went either way.
I think the only way that Provodkinov wins this is if you give him 10-8 in rds 1, 2, and 12 then give him the benefit of the doubt in the close rounds - 6 and 11. I think Bradley's stock went up in this one. I don't necessarily think he's a better fighter than I did before, but I certainly want to watch him more!
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