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Post by lydian Mon 15 Apr 2013, 11:35 am

First topic message reminder :

Thread for the week to discuss the matches outside the 606Tour and Pick threads.

Mixture of R1 and R2 (?) matches today...

[13] S. Wawrinka vs D. Istomin - 1st Round - Apr 16, 9:30 AM
F. Verdasco vs M. Matosevic - 1st Round - Apr 16, 9:30 AM
A. Ramos vs R. Stepanek - 1st Round - Apr 16, 9:30 AM
[6] Jo-Wilfried Tsonga vs Nikolay Davydenko - 2nd Round - Apr 16, 9:30 AM
[8] Janko Tipsarevic vs Grigor Dimitrov - 2nd Round - Apr 16, 9:30 AM
[7] Richard Gasquet vs Benoit Paire - 2nd Round - Apr 16, 11:00 AM
[WC] Benjamin Balleret vs Florian Mayer - 1st Round - Apr 16, 11:00 AM
[16] Philipp Kohlschreiber vs Pablo Andujar - 2nd Round - Apr 16, 11:00 AM
V. Hanescu vs M. Granollers - 1st Round - Apr 16, 11:30 AM
J. Huta Galung vs J. Melzer - 1st Round - Apr 16, 1:30 PM
K. Anderson vs J. Janowicz - 1st Round - Apr 16, 1:30 PM
[WC] G. Monfils vs A. Montanes - 1st Round - Apr 16, 1:30 PM
[10] N. Almagro vs D. Goffin - 1st Round - Apr 16, 2:00 PM
J. Isner vs E. Gulbis - 1st Round - Apr 16, 2:00 PM
[14] J. Monaco vs M. Klizan - 1st Round - Apr 16, 3:30 PM
[5] Juan Martin Del Potro vs Alexandr Dolgopolov - 2nd Round - Apr 16, 3:30 PM



http://www.atpworldtour.com/scores/schedule.aspx?year=2013&eventid=410


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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 11:43 am

J-Dubya is 3 points away...
Stan has served abysmally today - 42% 1st serves.

EDIT - 3 MPs...
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 11:45 am

Stan saves 3 MPs to bring it to deuce...!
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Post by Jahu Fri 19 Apr 2013, 11:48 am

Come on Stan
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 11:49 am

Stan holds...JWT to serve it out at 5-4...hoping Stan can flash the BH blade a few times.
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 11:53 am

Bummer Sad
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Post by Jahu Fri 19 Apr 2013, 11:53 am

Jo takes it. Shame Stan didn't do better.
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 11:56 am

Too many errors from Stan today after set 1 ... he's just not consistent enough through whole events, that's his problem.

For a guy of his huge talents just 3 ATP titles is not good enough, he's probably got the best SHBH on tour, a very good FH and excellent serve...he's just not strong enough upstairs. Shame...
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Post by Jahu Fri 19 Apr 2013, 12:00 pm

Yeah, one of the guys I'd like to win a few Masters or a GS
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 12:04 pm

That AO13 Djoko result could have changed his career but alas...he just never quite knuckled down to getting himself in supreme shape and mental fitness. Maybe he'll surprise us one day...at 28 he's in the new prime window!
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Post by The Special Juan Fri 19 Apr 2013, 12:25 pm

Oh dear. You get the feeling Tsonga's going to get hammered by Nadal if he plays as streaky as he did today.
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 12:45 pm

Nadal takes 1st set 6-2. Looks like JK and I were wrong in our 2 "mark our words" respects! lol
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Post by The Special Juan Fri 19 Apr 2013, 12:53 pm

Ridiculous decision there by Lahyani. He stops the rally about 3 shots later?
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Post by The Special Juan Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:14 pm

Dimitov's playing well.
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Post by bogbrush Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:21 pm

Eh up!
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:24 pm

Ey up indeed...knew Dimi had the game to trouble Nadal (or frankly anyone)...just needs to execute.
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Post by bogbrush Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:28 pm

Christ, Ryan's going to be in clover if this carries on.
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Post by sirfredperry Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:36 pm

Just switched on to see that final game of the second set. I still reckon Rafa will come through but it could be a cracking last set. When was the last time he lost a match at Monte Carlo - 1879 ?

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Post by The Special Juan Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:43 pm

This guy's quite good!! I don't think he'll win but his stock with me is rising.
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Post by bogbrush Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:46 pm

I have to admit nothing could make me happier than for "Baby-Fed" to come through big time. Even beating the Maestro himself I could live with, so long as it was part of a broader emergence.

The torch needs passing. We (well, I) need a SHBH at the top of the game.

Still expect Rafa to come through of course, he'll be on major attack to the backhand by now I suppose?
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:57 pm

Yeah I'm more than happy enough for Dimi to win and we see genuine new talent break through. This guy is the real deal, its just a matter of when. BTW, he hates getting called baby Fed and now snaps off heads in interviews about it! Anyway, good to ser him pushing Nadal the whole way here.
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Post by bogbrush Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:58 pm

lydian wrote:Yeah I'm more than happy enough for Dimi to win and we see genuine new talent break through. This guy is the real deal, its just a matter of when. BTW, he hates getting called baby Fed and now snaps off heads in interviews about it! Anyway, good to ser him pushing Nadal the whole way here.
Well that's good too, but it's what he is really.
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Post by The Special Juan Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:59 pm

The backhand's getting the treatment. I think Nadal will grind out the victory instead of playing light's out tennis. It'll come down to a few points here and there.
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Post by LuvSports! Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:03 pm

F****** get in there dimi ya beauty!!!!

I still dont think he will do it but what an effort just two games away!!!

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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:06 pm

...and they say SHBHs cant cut it...yet in this ralley based clay event even we've had Gasquet, Wawrinka, Almagro, Dimitrov all "flashing the blade". All attacking players...its what the game needs.

I think Dimi can do this. BB, as I keep saying - this is your guy!


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Post by bogbrush Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:06 pm

The Special Juan wrote:The backhand's getting the treatment.
A left handed Fed / Dimi would really put the cat amongst Rafas pigeons. It'd be a designer-nemesis, much as Nadal himself is more or less what you'd build from scratch if you wanted to match up Federers game.

Then again, he'd go to the training ground and work something out probably.

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Post by bogbrush Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:08 pm

lydian wrote:...and they say SHBHs cant cut it...yet in this ralley based clay event even we've had Gasquet, Wawrinka, Almagro, Dimitrov all "flashing the blade". All attacking players...its what the game needs.

I think Dimi can do this. BB, as I keep saying - this is your guy!

You do, you do.
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:08 pm

ok 4-4....massive game here for Dimitrov...has he learnt from the chokes against Murray and Djoko recently? We'll find out...
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Post by bogbrush Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:10 pm

Uh-oh.....
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:10 pm

2 errors from Dimi...15-30
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:12 pm

What an up and down game...deuce
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:13 pm

Another UE....BP to Nadal
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Post by The Special Juan Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:14 pm

bogbrush wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:The backhand's getting the treatment.
A left handed Fed / Dimi would really put the cat amongst Rafas pigeons. It'd be a designer-nemesis, much as Nadal himself is more or less what you'd build from scratch if you wanted to match up Federers game.

Then again, he'd go to the training ground and work something out probably.


I was just thinking about LH SHBH players the other day and Llodra was the only one I could think of (and he's not great from the baseline). It certainly would be interesting.
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Post by bogbrush Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:14 pm

There we go.

Oh well, I don't automatically call a choke there. Credit where it's due.
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:15 pm

Dimi tamely slices into the net....5 groundstroke errors from GD in that game when the pressure counted from Nadal. Reverted to too many slices as well...

Nadal to serve it out, maybe - he gets a little tight these days too.
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:17 pm

How many BH slices for Dimi have gone in the net the past 2-3 games?
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:18 pm

30-30! Dimi finally hits a good topspin BH winner. Game on...
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:19 pm

FH out...MP Nadal
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Post by The Special Juan Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:19 pm

Whoa!
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:20 pm

Great FH...deuce...tension building!
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Post by The Special Juan Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:21 pm

Oh. Well, well played Nadal + Dimitrov. Superb match clap
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:22 pm

Wow...when does Nadal win a match with an ace!

Great match by both...this could be hardest Nadal gets pushed all clay season! clap
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Post by sirfredperry Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:22 pm

Gutsy stuff there from Dimi but Rafa cut out the unforced errors at the end. You feel he's practically unbeatable on clay.

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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:29 pm

Yep, he knows when to baton down the hatches - strong match player he is. Dimitrov adds another strong performance others will take note of. To be fair it wasn't a choke from Dimi...ok he lost his serve at 4-4 but he was under enormous pressure from Nadal. The breakthrough is taking time but you really feel he's on the cusp of something big at some point this year.
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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:34 pm

BB - thank goodness Dimi didn't win from a picking perspective...we live to fight on! Phew...
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Post by bogbrush Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:47 pm

Even on points though, not many get to say that after a match at MC with Nadal.
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Post by bogbrush Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:48 pm

lydian wrote:BB - thank goodness Dimi didn't win from a picking perspective...we live to fight on! Phew...

Yeah!!
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Post by The Special Juan Fri 19 Apr 2013, 3:43 pm

Whoa, what's going on with The Fog?
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Post by The Special Juan Fri 19 Apr 2013, 4:12 pm

Laugh I only saw from the tie-breaker onwards so I can only judge the match based on what I saw, but Fognini played some outrageous tennis!! Gasquet was too far behind the baseline and got punished for it by a truly inspired opponent.

And here's a splendid Berdych meltdown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpHehrexIHc&feature=player_embedded
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Post by invisiblecoolers Fri 19 Apr 2013, 5:54 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Laugh I only saw from the tie-breaker onwards so I can only judge the match based on what I saw, but Fognini played some outrageous tennis!! Gasquet was too far behind the baseline and got punished for it by a truly inspired opponent.

And here's a splendid Berdych meltdown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpHehrexIHc&feature=player_embedded

So the Fognini factor on means Djoko not gonna win this tournament. Very Happy

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Post by lydian Fri 19 Apr 2013, 6:25 pm

The cramping in the 3rd set also shows Dimitrov still has some physical gains to make but I think we can see there is "life" beyond Federer for his attacking style of play. I would add that the cold, damp weather today probably played its part - its unseasonably cold in Monaco at the moment and its meant to be even colder and much windier tomorrow - just 14c. Generally Nadal doesn't like colder clay conditions - he never really liked Hamburg - so Tsonga may just have a much better chance than usual.
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