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Post by hampo17 Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:50 pm

First topic message reminder :

Just finished this for the journal, all feedback welcome as always and you're predictions. boxing


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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:09 pm

What a great fight

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Post by hampo17 Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:09 pm

Khan by one or two for me there. I think he banked enough of the early rounds, knockdown aside, to take this one,

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:09 pm

Diaz won that for me.. just.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:09 pm

khan will win on points because of corrupt judges

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Post by azania Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:09 pm

Great fight. Bredit to both of them.

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Post by davidemore Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:09 pm

If Diaz loses it is a fix. Fact. He landed all of the best shots, Amir ran for huge parts of the fight.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:10 pm

khan by two rounds

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Post by KingMonkey Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:10 pm

Khan has probably won that but Smeg me, he might as well have lost. There are no fights out there for him.

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Post by azania Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:10 pm

Khan by 3.

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Post by Strongback Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:10 pm

Best fight I've seen in a while.

The pace right to the end was great.

Quality punching and all round high standard.

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:10 pm

Got Khan winning by a whisker 114-113

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:10 pm

I have Khan by 1 or a Draw....Diaz deserves the draw. Davidemore I think you may be getting excited by the commentators who everytime Khan gets caught think he is on the way out.

Yes a couple of times he was on wobbly legs but not as much as they would have you believe. I had Khan winning 3 maybe 4 rounds but 2 were 10-8 Rounds.

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Post by OasisBFC Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:10 pm

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A guy who tells me I should love the queen and posted Happy St. Georges day and is from 'England's Green and Pleasant Land' is cheering against Khan Headscratch

I would say this is more 2 foreigners having a dust-up, than 1 Englishman and 1 foreigner, but I'd probably be labelled a racist!
Why?
He was born in England, and brought up in England.

Why is a 'foreigner'??

exactly. you may be labelled a racist. you should definitely be labelled an idiot.

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Post by davidemore Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:11 pm

Here comes a fix...

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Post by Silver Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:11 pm

Great fight! I have Khan by one as well.

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Post by davidemore Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:11 pm

And there it is.

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Post by hampo17 Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:12 pm

Hardly a fix Davide Laugh Khan boxed well on the back foot for majority of the fight, Diaz landed in 3 rounds and they where his best rounds easily. The others where very close.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:12 pm

if khan struggled with diaz who is not a massive puncher and was seen as past it how will he cope with the big guns?

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Post by azania Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:13 pm

KingMonkey wrote:Khan has probably won that but Smeg me, he might as well have lost. There are no fights out there for him.

Nonsense. There are boxers who see his vulnerabilities and will target him. Plenty of big fights for an exciting and vulnerable fighter.

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Post by KingMonkey Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:13 pm

It was only a good fight because Khan is pony. Exciting but pony.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:13 pm

Sod of davidemore....fix my a**

What rounds did you have for Diaz? I would hedge my bet that any you gave him you scored each one 10-8!!

It was close and far to close for someone hoping to clear out 140!! But Khan probably did just enough.

Say what you like about his chin but the guy has heart and should be applauded for not just carrying on but also still mixing at this level. Harrison is an example of someone with a crap chin but look at the differences in level between the two!!!

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:13 pm

Nice when at least one judge calls it exactly as you do...

No probs with the decision but he's done as a top level fighter.

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Post by davidemore Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:14 pm

Arm punches for the majority of the fight Hampo, flurries to look good, hanging on, massive shots landed by Diaz. Canelo vs Trout style. It was close, i had it to Diaz by one or two, but it was not, NOT three to chinny. No way.

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Post by KingMonkey Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:14 pm

azania wrote:
KingMonkey wrote:Khan has probably won that but Smeg me, he might as well have lost. There are no fights out there for him.

Nonsense. There are boxers who see his vulnerabilities and will target him. Plenty of big fights for an exciting and vulnerable fighter.

Ok, there's one fight for him. Whoever it is knocks him out and its finally all over.

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:14 pm

davidemore wrote:And there it is.

think we're in the minority here, I felt Diaz won as well.

I saw this coming though, hometown decision and all that..

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Post by azania Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:15 pm

Is Khan that chinny? He got hit with some huge shots and didn't go down. Chinny but not Price level of chinnyness.

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Post by seanmichaels Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:15 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:is tony bellew comentating?

Nah Paul Smith

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Post by davidemore Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:15 pm

Amir describes getting whacked and put down as losing his stance, haha!

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Post by hampo17 Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:15 pm

Can't see why he's done as a top level fighter. He's learning a new style and it was never going to be completely bedded in by the second fight. He needs to get back in the gym as soon as possible and carry on working on it. He showed he is a very very good boxer when he uses range.

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Post by seanmichaels Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:16 pm

Has Khan got a cualiflower ear?

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Post by as1079 Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:16 pm

115-112 Khan for me. I gave Diaz the 4th (10-8) and the last three. I really can't make a case for a Diaz win.

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Post by davidemore Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:16 pm

He's chinny, and will be badly KO'd by a Garcia or a Lucas.

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:17 pm

azania wrote:Is Khan that chinny? He got hit with some huge shots and didn't go down. Chinny but not Price level of chinnyness.

Honestly thought Khan just, just won, by the skin of a fingernail. No argument with a draw or even a razor-thin decision for Diaz.

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Post by Duty281 Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:18 pm

Had Diaz winning that personally, but with Khan being the home fighter, I thought he'd get the decision. Another exciting fight, Khan' fights always are, but I can't see him succeeding at the very top level anymore. Offensively great, but footwork, defence, and chin all poor. He's set in his ways as well. Every fighter in the world will know how to fight him by now.

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:18 pm

hampo171 wrote:Can't see why he's done as a top level fighter. He's learning a new style and it was never going to be completely bedded in by the second fight. He needs to get back in the gym as soon as possible and carry on working on it. He showed he is a very very good boxer when he uses range.

He's unable to take a shot, and does not seem to learn from his mistakes. He's well short of world level in so many areas IMO.

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Post by davidemore Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:20 pm

Great fight, got to go to bed. Work tomorrow! See you tomorrow for more Murray talk! Smile

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:21 pm

davidemore wrote:Great fight, got to go to bed. Work tomorrow! See you tomorrow for more Murray talk! Smile

Nite and god bless...

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Post by Strongback Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:21 pm

Diaz was in good shape. He saw this as a big opportunity. You'd have to feel for him a bit given what he put into the fight.

I like Virgil. He doesn't miss much.


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Post by azania Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:23 pm

Cast a Shadow wrote:
azania wrote:Is Khan that chinny? He got hit with some huge shots and didn't go down. Chinny but not Price level of chinnyness.

Honestly thought Khan just, just won, by the skin of a fingernail. No argument with a draw or even a razor-thin decision for Diaz.

No way. I had Khan up by 3. Last 3 rounds and the 4th to Diaz.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:23 pm

same here, got a long shift tommorow, whatever this means for khan - a few fights like this could revive boxing overnight.

take it easy lads, goodnight

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Post by azania Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:23 pm

Strongback wrote:Diaz was in good shape. He saw this as a big opportunity. You'd have to feel for him a bit given what he put into the fight.

I like Virgil. He doesn't miss much.


Like Diaz in the last 3 rounds.

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Post by hampo17 Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:24 pm

Cast a Shadow wrote:
hampo171 wrote:Can't see why he's done as a top level fighter. He's learning a new style and it was never going to be completely bedded in by the second fight. He needs to get back in the gym as soon as possible and carry on working on it. He showed he is a very very good boxer when he uses range.

He's unable to take a shot, and does not seem to learn from his mistakes. He's well short of world level in so many areas IMO.

If he couldn't take a shot he would have been knocked out tonight as he took a fair few heavy shots and came back. He gets wobbled but showed tonight he can recover, it's a pet hate of mine that as soon as someone gets wobbled fans say he can't take a shot. It's the second camp with a new trainer and he you could see differences. He boxed smart, besides one incident which I'm sure can be ironed out, he used the jab a lot better and blocked a lot more punches than we've ever seen him block before.

He shouldn't be rushed back in to world title fights, he needs at least two more camps to really get this style of boxing mastered IMO.

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Post by Haito Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:25 pm

Khan isn't chinny as such more that he suffers from Frank Bruno syndrome. He goes to pieces when he's tagged and is desperate until he can clear his head. All his rivals know this so at the highest level he is a sitting duck for me. Which is unfortunate as he has got some great punches.
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Post by azania Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:26 pm

Duty281 wrote:Had Diaz winning that personally, but with Khan being the home fighter, I thought he'd get the decision. Another exciting fight, Khan' fights always are, but I can't see him succeeding at the very top level anymore. Offensively great, but footwork, defence, and chin all poor. He's set in his ways as well. Every fighter in the world will know how to fight him by now.

I wonder why Whistle

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:28 pm

azania wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Had Diaz winning that personally, but with Khan being the home fighter, I thought he'd get the decision. Another exciting fight, Khan' fights always are, but I can't see him succeeding at the very top level anymore. Offensively great, but footwork, defence, and chin all poor. He's set in his ways as well. Every fighter in the world will know how to fight him by now.

I wonder why Whistle

Khan - just, 7 rounds, 2 x 10-8 for Diaz and him winning two others.

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Post by azania Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:29 pm

hampo171 wrote:
Cast a Shadow wrote:
hampo171 wrote:Can't see why he's done as a top level fighter. He's learning a new style and it was never going to be completely bedded in by the second fight. He needs to get back in the gym as soon as possible and carry on working on it. He showed he is a very very good boxer when he uses range.

He's unable to take a shot, and does not seem to learn from his mistakes. He's well short of world level in so many areas IMO.

If he couldn't take a shot he would have been knocked out tonight as he took a fair few heavy shots and came back. He gets wobbled but showed tonight he can recover, it's a pet hate of mine that as soon as someone gets wobbled fans say he can't take a shot. It's the second camp with a new trainer and he you could see differences. He boxed smart, besides one incident which I'm sure can be ironed out, he used the jab a lot better and blocked a lot more punches than we've ever seen him block before.

He shouldn't be rushed back in to world title fights, he needs at least two more camps to really get this style of boxing mastered IMO.

His next fight is for a world title according to Shaefer.

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Post by Duty281 Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:31 pm

azania wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Had Diaz winning that personally, but with Khan being the home fighter, I thought he'd get the decision. Another exciting fight, Khan' fights always are, but I can't see him succeeding at the very top level anymore. Offensively great, but footwork, defence, and chin all poor. He's set in his ways as well. Every fighter in the world will know how to fight him by now.

I wonder why Whistle

Possibly because I thought he landed the better shots and controlled the latter of the fight? Mind you, I'll give it a rewatch tomorrow.

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Post by kingraf Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:32 pm

A win over Murray today, and the combined record of the fighters maravilla has beaten since becoming champ is 198-4-1!!! Put that in your twitter, put that in your internet! The coronation will begin shortly
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Post by Guest Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:33 pm

Exciting fight but the writing is on the wall for Khan.

Same fighter as he was under Roach.

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Post by azania Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:33 pm

Rewatch is. Diaz won 4 rounds max. Khan won 8. The 10-8 made it a Khan win by 3 points.

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