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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue 14 May 2013, 3:56 pm

1. Timing. Froch has been in beast mode in recent fights, destroying Bute and Mack with ease.
2. Hunger for revenge. Kessler holds a win over Froch. This is key to Froch being focussed for another massive test
3. Calzaghe - Froch lost to Kessler, Calzaghe beat him. That will always hang over Froch's legacy. But if Froch stops him, he'll have something to say he did that Calzaghe ddin't, even fi we don't think it makes a difference.
4. Wear and tear. Kessler has had eye issues, and cut issues ever since Ward butted him into oblivion. He has also been inactive, was dropped by Green and fought at a lower level.
5. Home advantage, roaring The Cobra on.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Tue 14 May 2013, 4:00 pm

Agree. Although I'd be surprised.

On a random note, I had a dream the other night that I went to the fight and Carl go stopped in Round 1!!

I woke up like it was a nightmare and let it all out to the missus.

Hope it don't happen with De Ja Vu and all!

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 14 May 2013, 4:06 pm

Kessler has been in beast mode too don't forget.

Mack is no better than Magee and Green (who he put to sleep).

His 3 fights since Froch havent made it past the 6th round.

Doesnt show that much rust.

I think Froch loses this one, think people are using the Bute fight as some sort of clue to how this fight will go.

Froch hit Kessler with everything and more and still couldn't win. Its Kesslers to lose
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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 14 May 2013, 4:08 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Agree. Although I'd be surprised.

On a random note, I had a dream the other night that I went to the fight and Carl go stopped in Round 1!!

I woke up like it was a nightmare and let it all out to the missus.

Hope it don't happen with De Ja Vu and all!

Kicked her face in?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 14 May 2013, 4:08 pm

Anyway, Carl got KOed in sparring by Groves, so it ain't happening...

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Post by mobilemaster8 Tue 14 May 2013, 4:09 pm

Punch, not kick.

I'm a boxing fan not UFC.....

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Post by spencerclarke Tue 14 May 2013, 5:47 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:Anyway, Carl got KOed in sparring by Groves, so it ain't happening...
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That thread was brilliant Alex. I can never click on spoilers at work so I was really confused as to what was going on to further down the thread. I think the firewall saved me from being fooled myself.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Tue 14 May 2013, 6:05 pm

Can't see Froch stopping Kessler, Froch doenst hit hard enough

Bute and Mack are chinny whereas Kessler isn't. Green dropped him but that was at 175 where Kessler isn't as good

Froch should win but doubt by stoppage, he hasn't shown world class power agaisnt a tough SMW

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Post by Guest Tue 14 May 2013, 6:13 pm

One concern should be that Froch actually gets too carried away and tries to force the fight. With the crowd roaring him on, I fear he'll have a rush of blood to the head and look to land shots that he shouldn't, leaving Kessler the chance to counter him.

Don't see Kessler stopping Froch either but he's good enough and level headed enough to keep his cool in a hostile environment.


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Post by Rodney Tue 14 May 2013, 6:56 pm

Think Dave has pretty much nailed it for me & I have a feeling Froch is going to force the action in belief his pretty indestructible at this time.

Hopefully he doesn't get carried away as Kessler is a real good operator with greater punching power than Froch I believe. I can't decide whose favourite for this, gun to head I'd probs pick Kessler to win just think his a little more polished, but could go any way and hopefully be a heck of a fight.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 May 2013, 6:59 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:Agree. Although I'd be surprised.

On a random note, I had a dream the other night that I went to the fight and Carl go stopped in Round 1!!

I woke up like it was a nightmare and let it all out to the missus.

Hope it don't happen with De Ja Vu and all!

Kicked her face in?

My Wife used to play in a netball team......Sometimes many years ago during the night I'd feel her whacking the back of my head......In the morning she'd explain that she'd had a dream about playing netball and she was trying to score baskets.....

Funny thing was she'd usually have these dreams after we'd been rowing beforehand..

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue 14 May 2013, 7:09 pm

Nice one, Truss Smile

I think Froch does a Hatton v Kosta type performance on Kessler. Right time of career and all that

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Post by Steffan Tue 14 May 2013, 7:17 pm

My new girlfriend (who is 9 years yonger than me by the way Very Happy ) is coming around on Saturday. Gonna make her to watch it and if Froch wins she probably wont want to see me again

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Post by Rodney Tue 14 May 2013, 7:21 pm

Hope your right Sean, just looked at the odds and surprised to see Kessler was 2/1 and even better Chilemba is 7/4, wouldn't have Bellew as favourite from evidence we seen last time out.

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Post by Guest Tue 14 May 2013, 7:22 pm

Steffan wrote:My new girlfriend (who is 9 years yonger than me by the way Very Happy ) is coming around on Saturday. Gonna make her to watch it and if Froch wins she probably wont want to see me again
I hope you're not 18, Steffan!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 May 2013, 7:24 pm

Bellew wins for me because Chilemba is scared of his power..........Hence the lifetime it took him to get started last time.....Bellew by kayo.

Hope Kesler wins..........Because If he doesn't it'll be PPV all the way..

DAVE has a dirty mind hasn't he..

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Post by Guest Tue 14 May 2013, 7:26 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Bellew wins for me because Chilemba is scared of his power..........Hence the lifetime it took him to get started last time.....Bellew by kayo.

Hope Kesler wins..........Because If he doesn't it'll be PPV all the way..

DAVE has a dirty mind hasn't he..
I was going to say "I didn't realise blow up dolls lasted that long, Steffan"

Didn't want to go down the SHEEP stereotype route as I know how sensitive the daffodil munchers can be a bout stuff like that

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Post by Steffan Tue 14 May 2013, 7:27 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Steffan wrote:My new girlfriend (who is 9 years yonger than me by the way Very Happy ) is coming around on Saturday. Gonna make her to watch it and if Froch wins she probably wont want to see me again
I hope you're not 18, Steffan!
Laugh I thought someone might say that. Nah im 32 mate.

If Kessler wins and I get some action it will a good night. Il settle for a Kessler win though


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 May 2013, 7:27 pm

I can't believe you're 32..........Your IQ maybe.....

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Post by Strongback Tue 14 May 2013, 7:29 pm

As with the first fight I think Kessler will be quicker to the punch. It just depends if Kessler can keep up his usual high work rate. If we see a Kessler anywhere near his best he wins in my view.

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Post by Guest Tue 14 May 2013, 7:31 pm

Steffan wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Steffan wrote:My new girlfriend (who is 9 years yonger than me by the way Very Happy ) is coming around on Saturday. Gonna make her to watch it and if Froch wins she probably wont want to see me again
I hope you're not 18, Steffan!
Laugh I thought someone might say that. Nah im 32 mate.

If Kessler wins and I get some action it will a good night. Il settle for a Kessler win though

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What? You originally wrote that you were 23?

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Post by Strongback Tue 14 May 2013, 7:34 pm

Rodney wrote:Hope your right Sean, just looked at the odds and surprised to see Kessler was 2/1 and even better Chilemba is 7/4, wouldn't have Bellew as favourite from evidence we seen last time out.

Cheers rodders


Well worth a punt on those odds. thumbsup

Bellew was out of his depth last time and Kessler v Froch is 50/50 for me.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 May 2013, 7:36 pm

Don't let your heart rule your head Strongy.........

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Post by Guest Tue 14 May 2013, 7:38 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Don't let your heart rule your head Strongy.........
He'll be fine, this isn't a thread about David Haye

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 May 2013, 7:38 pm

No but a Brit is involved and Strongy remembers the Easter rising...

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Post by Strongback Tue 14 May 2013, 7:42 pm

Nationalism doesn't come into it.

I like Froch, even though he is a bit weird. He's done it in the ring the hard way so deserves respect. I just reckon Kessler might have his number.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 May 2013, 7:45 pm

Strongback wrote:Nationalism doesn't come into it.

Mate your Haye hate is irrational...........and yet you rate Fury...........errrm nothing to do with his heritage.

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Post by J.Benson II Tue 14 May 2013, 7:45 pm

I think Froch will win this. Tough but clear UD or late stoppage.

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Post by Guest Tue 14 May 2013, 7:49 pm

Personally I'd rather see a stoppage win (either way not fussed) simply because I don't think I could bear to wade through the 800 "Froch was robbed/Kessler was robbed" threads we'll be deluged by.

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Post by azania Tue 14 May 2013, 7:52 pm

One reason why Kessler wins; he's better

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Post by Guest Tue 14 May 2013, 7:56 pm

If it's close on the cards, like it was in Denmark, you can bet your eyes that there will be moaning and complaining aplenty

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Post by Strongback Tue 14 May 2013, 7:57 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Strongback wrote:Nationalism doesn't come into it.

Mate your Haye hate is irrational...........and yet you rate Fury...........errrm nothing to do with his heritage.


I don't like Haye but that is for the obvious reasons he's a dirty lying rotten scumbag.

I have never said I rate Fury. He's an accident waiting to happen and he's definitely British. He's just trying to jump on the Irish American bandwagon. Not the first boxer to want to be associated with the great nation of Ireland.

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Post by Guest Tue 14 May 2013, 8:01 pm

Strongback wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Strongback wrote:Nationalism doesn't come into it.

Mate your Haye hate is irrational...........and yet you rate Fury...........errrm nothing to do with his heritage.


I don't like Haye but that is for the obvious reasons he's a dirty lying rotten scumbag.

I have never said I rate Fury. He's an accident waiting to happen and he's definitely British. He's just trying to jump on the Irish American bandwagon. Not the first boxer to want to be associated with the great nation of Ireland.
Yeah, nothing irrational about that. Take some evening Primrose Oil and put a hot water bottle over your womb, you'll feel better in the morning

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Post by azania Tue 14 May 2013, 8:02 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Strongback wrote:Nationalism doesn't come into it.

Mate your Haye hate is irrational...........and yet you rate Fury...........errrm nothing to do with his heritage.


I don't like Haye but that is for the obvious reasons he's a dirty lying rotten scumbag.

I have never said I rate Fury. He's an accident waiting to happen and he's definitely British. He's just trying to jump on the Irish American bandwagon. Not the first boxer to want to be associated with the great nation of Ireland.
Yeah, nothing irrational about that. Take some evening Primrose Oil and put a hot water bottle over your womb, you'll feel better in the morning

Laugh Laugh

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Post by Steffan Tue 14 May 2013, 8:07 pm

Speaking if nationality...is everyone looking forward to the Wales...sorry I mean British & Irish Lions tour of Australia next month?

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue 14 May 2013, 8:13 pm

Steffan wrote:Speaking if nationality...is everyone looking forward to the Wales...sorry I mean British & Irish Lions tour of Australia next month?

Man, I missed thee! Smile

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Post by Steffan Tue 14 May 2013, 8:16 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:
Steffan wrote:Speaking if nationality...is everyone looking forward to the Wales...sorry I mean British & Irish Lions tour of Australia next month?

Man, I missed thee! Smile
I missed thee as well fella Hug

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Post by Strongback Tue 14 May 2013, 8:17 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Strongback wrote:Nationalism doesn't come into it.

Mate your Haye hate is irrational...........and yet you rate Fury...........errrm nothing to do with his heritage.


I don't like Haye but that is for the obvious reasons he's a dirty lying rotten scumbag.

I have never said I rate Fury. He's an accident waiting to happen and he's definitely British. He's just trying to jump on the Irish American bandwagon. Not the first boxer to want to be associated with the great nation of Ireland.
Yeah, nothing irrational about that. Take some evening Primrose Oil and put a hot water bottle over your womb, you'll feel better in the morning


You just can't handle the truth Dave. If I'm one side of the coin regarding Haye your are the flip side you massive giant nuthugger.

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Post by davidemore Tue 14 May 2013, 9:10 pm

Froch wins.

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Post by Steffan Tue 14 May 2013, 9:14 pm

Froch will lose

You all said he would stop Kessler last time

It wont happen

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Post by Silver Tue 14 May 2013, 9:55 pm

Not so sure about this. If it is a stoppage, I think it'll have to be on cuts as sean mentioned. Kessler vulnerable to tearing up a bit, but he's too durable for Froch to bang him out. It really looks like a pick'em fight, I think it'll be a split decision. Kessler's a skilled operator, I can't see him being overwhelmed even in the away cauldron.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 May 2013, 10:00 pm

Froch has looked good lately but against crud.........

Never a true reflection..........Look at Burns.....he looked good against crud as well.

Froch wins though for me.

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Post by RanjitPatel Tue 14 May 2013, 10:07 pm

I hope it goes to points just because i think it will be a cracking fight and I'd rather watch 36 minutes of a cracker than an early one.
Froch gets huge credit and is made out to be massively improved since the Ward fight with his subsequent hammerings of Bute and Mack. Thing is Bute and Mack are rubbish and Froch has done to them nothing that Kessler wouldn't have done himself.
Pretty even fight in my eyes and feel a points win for Froch is the likeliest outcome.

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Post by azania Tue 14 May 2013, 10:24 pm

Why is Bute rubbish? Because Froch destroyed him? Why can't it be said that Froch is a damn good fighter as opposed to Bute being rubbish?

Mack was rubbish though. That was a well earned gimme defense.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 14 May 2013, 10:27 pm

Bute is an ordinary stand up European type with no chin...Andrade spanked him and got robbed..shameful..

...........and he took 10 rounds to get rid of one of the worst champions in history Brian Magee.

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Post by azania Tue 14 May 2013, 10:34 pm

Andrade didn't get robbed. Another 30 seconds he would have won.

Fact is he was looked as the 2nd best SMW in the world. Froch was simply the better fighter.

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Post by RanjitPatel Tue 14 May 2013, 10:47 pm

Froch is a damn good fighter but Bute is rubbish. Nothing to do with underrating Froch, just an honest assessment of Bute's ability, in my opinion.

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Post by azania Tue 14 May 2013, 10:49 pm

Was he rubbish before he fought Froch? No-one else believed he was rubbish?

If he was rubbish, it wasn't a great win for Froch then.

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Post by RanjitPatel Tue 14 May 2013, 11:00 pm

Who had Bute beaten that was remotely good before Froch? No one is the answer.
As far as I recall many people doubted him after the first Andrade fight and so did I. Hid from the super 6 and destroyed at his first step up.
Rubbish may be a bit strong so I'll go to not very good.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue 14 May 2013, 11:03 pm

Steffan wrote:Froch will lose

You all said he would stop Kessler last time

It wont happen

now now, weren't we hugging a moment ago???

Froch stops him like Hatton stopped Kosta. Timing of the fight, British grit and a never ceasing drive to win!

War Froch!

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