Daveed Ferrer gonna win the slam without losing a set

First topic message reminder :

Daveed Ferrer gonna win the slam without losing a set , come on I have right to dream

Well done Little Fella, now go all guns blazing and give it a maximum try, all stars are aligned for your win, hard work gets paid some day, lets hope Its your come sunday. Prove all the doubters wrong that you belong to the Big 5 league.

It's going to be the best and only chance Ferrer will ever get. David will know that. Tiredness is his only hope. The last two matches they played both lasted around 2hr 40m for 3 sets...that would be pushing 3hr 30m for 4 sets and Rafa may feel it by then...but then so will Ferrer. Ferrer has to win in straights as I think Nadal's reserves and resolve are far deeper than Ferrer's. he has to make Rafa move as much as possible in the first 2 sets, if Rafa wins the first set relatively easily he's toast.

I know that Ferrer can do it... but on the other hand I know that Rafa wont let him

Realistically speaking Ferrer has a better shot than I'm saying. My only worry (for him, not as a Nadal fan) is how predictable/limited he is. His DTL backhand has improved, but in a final, especially a first one, old patterns triumph. Nadal forehand to Ferrer backhand is only ending one way. Ferrer needs to get aggressive, hit big, Its not his game, but his forehand is certainly big enough to at least startle Nadal. As a Nadal, I wouldnt be sad/dissapointed if Nadal lost to Ferrer. Shocked, yes. But Ferru deserves some sort of reward for his efforts. He cant end up on one Masters and a Slam final. Thats an equal record in the Higher echeleons to Tsonga or Berdych!

On one site Rafa is 1/8 on favourite, Daveed 6/1
Says it all really.

They have played 23 times but never gone 5 sets. Their only 4 set match was at USO07. People will say ok but Ferrer's a different player since 2012. True. But look at the last set score of their last 5 matches across 2013 & 2012 from Rome backwards...6-2, 6-0, 6-2, 6-1, 6-0. This speaks to mental folding after the 2 hr mark or so. The only match Ferrer won vs Rafa since 2007 was where Nadal was so clearly hampered by bad knee and hamstring trouble but didn't want to retire out of respect to his friend.

They have played twice at Roland Garros before...and David won 12 games in total. It's a brave man to say Ferrer has even a 40% chance but you never know Haddie. However, I know who you want to win

Yes you know me too well Lydian. Of course Im supporting Rafa as always but if Rafa had to lose then he couldn´t lose to a more worthy opponent... I just so "love" the Little Man.

invisiblecoolers wrote:

FedsFan wrote:In yours and Ferrer's dreams!

Sorry to pour cold water on yours hopes but it is never going to happen. If Ferrer makes it competitive even slightly that is a bonus.

Expect Ferrer to be broken in the first game and Nadal to sprint to the end in an hour and 45 minutes!

Feds Fan, never take life seriously and for sure never take dreams seriously, everybody dream a lot but they never come true most times, but dreaming is so fun.

I neither tend to lose something if Ferrer lose nor tend to gain something if he wins, but now since he made finals everything is win win for the little fella and I am happy for it.

Very true

I am genuinely pleased for Mr Ferrer...he was given a great opportunity this year and seized it.
But I don't want him to win.

lydian wrote:I am genuinely pleased for Mr Ferrer...he was given a great opportunity this year and seized it.
But I don't want him to win.

But I do... .

IMVHO, This may also be Nadal's last chance at RG to win, before others solve the GCOAT.

Hey, what's funny about stating a personal choice? Sometimes the use of smileys bewilders me.

Nadal will be 28 next year with huge clay miles under his belt, he can't win forever. I don't believe the new breed are better than him, but he can't sustain slam winning form year on year...if he wins tomorrow he'll have won a slam for 9 consecutive years which puts him into unique tennis history.

Ferrer is a tough opponent, take nothing for granted.

With Nadal tired, he has a chance.

To coin your earlier phrase, that's already been said.

Yes, I largely agreed with your analysis too earlier

How do you see the percentages going?
I think it's 60-40 to Nadal.

lydian wrote:Hey, what's funny about stating a personal choice? Sometimes the use of smileys bewilders me.

'I Do...till Death do us apart...' is typically used at an Altar, hence my laugh.

lydian wrote:Nadal will be 28 next year with huge clay miles under his belt, he can't win forever. I don't believe the new breed are better than him, but he can't sustain slam winning form year on year...if he wins tomorrow he'll have won a slam for 9 consecutive years which puts him into unique tennis history.

He is already part of unique Tennis history with his achievements, as of today. This will be the icing on the cake for his career. If Ferrer wins, that would be unique history, because neither will Ferrer get another chance at a slam, and a clay one at that.

Altar? You calling us fanboys LF (ie. kneeling at the altar of...)

40/60 is too high for Ferrer on probability IMO. Maybe 20%...but really who knows...poor form on the day could make a mockery of pre-match expectations. Lets just say it would be a surprise for Ferrer to win...everyone knows that. We'll have to just wait for the match now, may the best man win.

I'd say Ferrer's got a decent chance to upset Nadal.

So far at the 2013 French Open, Nadal's dropped 4 sets. Albeit 2 sets where dropped against Djokovic.

In his previous 8 visits, he's never dropped more than 3 sets in any tournament. That includes the 2009 loss to Soderling(they where the only 3 sets Nadal dropped)

I'd say 55/45 to Nadal.

95/5 to nadal.
Ferrer won their first meeting when nadal was 17 in stuttgart in 3 sets.

I would be very surprised if he gets more than 10 games.

We have all been complaining that we are not getting any fresh blood in the later stages of the slams - so we should all be happy that finally after almost three years (Berdych W10) we have a first time slam finalist. Yey!

5-10% chance to Ferrer, and I wonder if that is too bold.

summerblues wrote:We have all been complaining that we are not getting any fresh blood in the later stages of the slams - so we should all be happy that finally after almost three years (Berdych W10) we have a first time slam finalist. Yey!

I'm really excited for that too

But in the same time I'm really nervous, especially as Rafa has said he's not favourite:
www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2013/06/23/Roland-Garros-Saturday2-Nadal-Preview.aspx

[quote="lydian"]

lydian wrote:Nadal will be 28 next year with huge clay miles under his belt, he can't win forever. I don't believe the new breed are better than him, but he can't sustain slam winning form year on year...if he wins tomorrow he'll have won a slam for 9 consecutive years which puts him into unique tennis history.

I hope Ferrer wins just to stop this record

As just posted on the match thread Ferrer's chances have shot up...40% chance of raining ALL day, so damp conditions, on-off tennis.