Deontay Wilder's Next Fight...

...According to both Fightnews.com & BoxRec will be Siarhei "White Wolf" Liakhovich.

Is he a step up after Audley? Possibly. But the former WBO belt holder is more of a name than a challenge now. He hasn't fought for nearly 18 months and is coming off to successive losses - to Robert Helenius & Wilder's fellow unbeaten American Bryant Jennings.

I don't see this going much further than Audley's fight, although it would be nice to see Liakhovich give him a bit of a fight. Sadly I just don't see it happening.

Step up man!

i didn't see the jennings fight, but he gave helenius a decent challenge. its a step forwards from audley definitely and better than any of his previous opponents by far so can't criticize to much, but i am keen to see wilder face someone genuinely top 10, as i think he isn't as good as he thinks he is.

Wilder's record is so padded out it is unbelievable. He seriously needs to start stepping it up big time.

Fairly durable opponent usually though, so he may give wilder some much needed rounds first

This is the person the Klitschkos are meant to be avoiding? This is an opponent for a boxer who is learning his trade. For this, I have no issue with the choice, but he will have to really step up soon and start fighting top ten if he wants to be taken seriously.

Nobody (not even Winchester) actually thinks that the Klitschkos are avoiding anyone.

There is a reason he's being moved along slowly.

Remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNO5bVPP-uw

Skip to 1:50

 

So, looks like we have a black David Price on our hands.......

TopHat24/7 wrote:So, looks like we have a black David Price on our hands.......

Coloured David Price lol

Erm......not quite where I was going with that inman.

I think its ok for him to be brought along slowly, as long as the step ups keep coming, and this is a genune step up even if it is small. Hopefully they don't deal with him like Price and just put him straight in with a Tony Thompson when he isn't ready. Get this guy to learn as much as he can and genuinely learn his trade so he doesn't get exposed at the higher levels until he's ready.

As long as his next opponent is slightly better than Liakhovich I'm all for it, decent little learning fights.

AlexHuckerby wrote:I think its ok for him to be brought along slowly, as long as the step ups keep coming, and this is a genune step up even if it is small. Hopefully they don't deal with him like Price and just put him straight in with a Tony Thompson when he isn't ready. Get this guy to learn as much as he can and genuinely learn his trade so he doesn't get exposed at the higher levels until he's ready.

As long as his next opponent is slightly better than Liakhovich I'm all for it, decent little learning fights.

The difference between wilder and price is that wilder is 28-0 with 28 wins by ko.

Wilder has had a lot of fights but he needs to step it up big time. He really needs to start fighting some top 10 opponents from next year onwards.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:I think its ok for him to be brought along slowly, as long as the step ups keep coming, and this is a genune step up even if it is small. Hopefully they don't deal with him like Price and just put him straight in with a Tony Thompson when he isn't ready. Get this guy to learn as much as he can and genuinely learn his trade so he doesn't get exposed at the higher levels until he's ready.

As long as his next opponent is slightly better than Liakhovich I'm all for it, decent little learning fights.

The difference between wilder and price is that wilder is 28-0 with 28 wins by ko.

Wilder has had a lot of fights but he needs to step it up big time. He really needs to start fighting some top 10 opponents from next year onwards.

Why should he fight top 10 opponents when he knows he'll get a shot anyway.........Just has to wait his turn...........

the 28-0 thing is nonsense anyway - the guy hasnt been fighting long.

Fair enough that he needs to step up but he has been a pro as long as David Price and fought twice as many fights. Very little in the way of amateur. So its not like he is that experienced despite the figure of 28.

Was awaiting Wilder's number one nut hugger to appear  

Did Del have an amatuer career?

I think Wilder is being avoided by alot of heavyweights. He should knock this opponent out and then try and challenge the winner of Fury and Haye.

winchester wrote:I think Wilder is being avoided by alot of heavyweights. He should knock this opponent out and then try and challenge the winner of Fury and Haye.

What is the basis of your argument eg what facts or evidence do you have that alot of heavyweights are ducking him?

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

winchester wrote:I think Wilder is being avoided by alot of heavyweights. He should knock this opponent out and then try and challenge the winner of Fury and Haye.

What is the basis of your argument eg what facts or evidence do you have that alot of heavyweights are ducking him?

Its the medical report that says his mother accidently dropped him on his head and then did it on purpose for good luck

Wilder looks the part. 28 wins, 28 knock outs. Hes big, powerful and athletic. Not many heavyweights will want to face him when they can get away with fighting others instead.

Why did Wilder duck Chisroa?

Wilder would knock Chisora out if they fought. Not too intersted in that match. Id like to see Wilder in with the top guys in the division. Wilder was looking to face Fury after he destroyed Audley Harison. Unlike the Klitschkos he calles out the winners of matches instead of the losers. Fury and Haye have both beaten Chisora so I would would like to see Wilder face the winner of that.

No. Wilder ducked chisora. The fight was going to happen then Wilder bottled it.

ShahenshahG wrote:No. Wilder ducked chisora. The fight was going to happen then Wilder bottled it.

Winchester probably didn't even know that wilder was scheduled to fight chisora before wilder pulled out

winchester wrote: I think Wilder is being avoided by alot of heavyweights. He should knock this opponent out and then try and challenge the winner of Fury and Haye.

champagne_socialist wrote:what is the basis of your argument

winchester wrote:Wilder looks the part. 28 wins, 28 knock outs. Hes big, powerful and athletic. Not many heavyweights will want to face him when they can get away with fighting others instead.

So basically you have no evidence that the other HW's are ducking Willder  

The Klitschkos have never offered him a match but have offered matches to worse opponents.

You have no evidence of anything yourself. Your arguments always come down to cop outs in asking questions on opinion based matters. You offer nothing yourself, you just try to use lack of evidence to prove you are right instead of forming an argument.

winchester wrote:The Klitschkos have never offered him a match but have offered matches to worse opponents.

You have no evidence of anything yourself. Your arguments always come down to cop outs in asking questions on opinion based matters. You offer nothing yourself, you just try to use lack of evidence to prove you are right instead of forming an argument.

Bahahahaha

Why did wilder Duck Chisora

winchester wrote:The Klitschkos have never offered him a match but have offered matches to worse opponents.

You have no evidence of anything yourself. Your arguments always come down to cop outs in asking questions on opinion based matters. You offer nothing yourself, you just try to use lack of evidence to prove you are right instead of forming an argument.

Because you keep saying klitschkos are ducking wilder but you have no evidence whatsoever that they are ducking him.

Have you ever thought tha the reason why klitschko v wilder has not happened is because wilder is not ready and will not take the fight? if you look at the level of opposition wilder is fighting eg audley harrison you can see he is not ready.

But anyway you have no evidence klitschko is ducking wilder and therefore it is just your opinion based on nothing, so your opinion is basically worthless.

I am basing it in my own opinion. I dont think the Klitschkos take risks and Wilder is clearly a big, powerful and athletic opponent that has knocked out all his opponents. I dont think they want to risk facing him and they havent offered him a match despite offering worse opponents matches. You cant disprove this opinion anymore than I can prove it.

"You cant disprove this opinion anymore than I can
prove" - Genius!

winchester wrote:I am basing it in my own opinion. I dont think the Klitschkos take risks and Wilder is clearly a big, powerful and athletic opponent that has knocked out all his opponents. I dont think they want to risk facing him and they havent offered him a match despite offering worse opponents matches. You cant disprove this opinion anymore than I can prove it.

Who is the more dangerous or the tougher opponent: Wilder or Povetkin? Wlad is scheduled to face povetkin who is the wba champion and ranked number 2 on ring magazine top 10.

So if klitschko is looking for easy opponents why is he fighting povetkin?

kingraf wrote:"You cant disprove this opinion anymore than I can
prove" - Genius!

Haha that made me laugh.

I am going to say that Wilder is ducking Vinnie Madelone. My evidence for this is that wilder has not offered vinnie maddalone a contract and also my secondary evidence is that it is my opinion and no one can prove my opinion is wrong.

I think Wilder is better than Povetkin

winchester wrote:I think Wilder is better than Povetkin

Do you even know who povetkin is?

povetkin has beaten

chris byrd, eddie chambers, marco huck, firtha, chagaev and rahman.

Povetkin is also an olympic gold medal champion.

Povetkin is also the wba champion, he is unbeaten with 26 wins and 19 Kos.

Who has wilder beaten?

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Who has wilder beaten?

Audley. To be honest I think both brothers get a little too much of a pass for avoiding John McDermott.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

kingraf wrote:"You cant disprove this opinion anymore than I can
prove" - Genius!

Haha that made me laugh.

I am going to say that Wilder is ducking Vinnie Madelone. My evidence for this is that wilder has not offered vinnie maddalone a contract and also my secondary evidence is that it is my opinion and no one can prove my opinion is wrong.

No the point is that there is no evidence. You cant prove to me that the Klitschkos want to fight Wilder. If they offered him a mach you would have evidence. But you have none. All you have is your opinion. Probably just as well because last time you tried to make a claim at me that Klitschko was a huge 6/1 favourite against Haye your evidence was all wrong.

Rowley wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Who has wilder beaten?

Audley. To be honest I think both brothers get a little too much of a pass for avoiding John McDermott.

We all know the klitschkos ducked mcdermott because mcdermott was never offered a contract.

winchester wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

kingraf wrote:"You cant disprove this opinion anymore than I can
prove" - Genius!

Haha that made me laugh.

I am going to say that Wilder is ducking Vinnie Madelone. My evidence for this is that wilder has not offered vinnie maddalone a contract and also my secondary evidence is that it is my opinion and no one can prove my opinion is wrong.

No the point is that there is no evidence. You cant prove to me that the Klitschkos want to fight Wilder. If they offered him a mach you would have evidence. But you have none. All you have is your opinion. Probably just as well because last time you tried to make a claim at me that Klitschko was a huge 6/1 favourite against Haye your evidence was all wrong.

I'm not trying to prove that they want to fight wilder. I m saying that not offering someone a contract is not evidence that the klitschkos are DUCKING wilder. Otherwise using your logic the klitschkos have ducked madalone, harrison, rogan etc etc

In fact using your logic you could say that wilder is ducking the klitschkos because wilder has not offered them a contract  

It can be interpreted as evidence they dont want face Wilder. You cant provide any evidence they want to face Wilder. They have it in their power to offer him a match. I think they know Wilder is extremelly dangerous and they would prefer to offer other fighters a match.

You made the statement..So you have to provide the evidence.....

I can say David Cameron is gay.........You can't prove he isn't..

winchester wrote:It can be interpreted as evidence they dont want face Wilder. You cant provide any evidence they want to face Wilder. They have it in their power to offer him a match. I think they know Wilder is extremelly dangerous and they would prefer to offer other fighters a match.

Once again I will state I am not trying to prove that they want to fight him. It was only 6 months ago klitschko was beating wilder up because wilder was klitschkos sparring partner.

All I can say and repeat is that not offering sonmeone a contract is not evidence of ducking.

Moving onto a different topic you say klitschkos fight weak opponents even though wlad is due to face povetkin. What about wilders oppossition? he is fighting people who operate below european level and domestic level in audley harrisson matthew greer and kelvin price.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You made the statement..So you have to provide the evidence.....

I can say David Cameron is gay.........You can't prove he isn't..

hahaha

I remember AZ saying the exact same thing regarding slave contracts that no one can prove what he was saying was wrong and so therefore what he was saying must be correct haha. Maybe AZ is Winchester....

I would also add that the person making the statement needs to provide the evidence, that is common sense.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You made the statement..So you have to provide the evidence.....

I can say David Cameron is gay.........You can't prove he isn't..

hahaha

I remember AZ saying the exact same thing regarding slave contracts that no one can prove what he was saying was wrong and so therefore what he was saying must be correct haha. Maybe AZ is Winchester....

Stranger things have happened..

J.Benson II wrote:There is a reason he's being moved along slowly.

Remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNO5bVPP-uw

Skip to 1:50

 

Good find. To be fair he was put down initially with a few shots in a row, then got back up to get totalled. It's not like he was fine and got tagged once to go down. He will have grown into his frame a lot since then and his punch resistance should have improved. Still, his opponent certainly found him easy to hit and not get hit back.

Also, there's a suggested video next to that one entitled "Nikolai Valuev - The Greatest of all Time"

J.Benson II wrote:There is a reason he's being moved along slowly.

Remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNO5bVPP-uw

Skip to 1:50

 

Wait a second, is that even Wilder? Those guys are both southpaws aren't they?

it is wilder being ko'd

Was he fighting southpaw or am I losing my mind? Possibly screen reverse although I don't see why...

if you go to 1:32 he is fighting orthadox