NZ Poach Star Fijian Winger

by GloriousEmpire Tue 29 Oct 2013, 9:07 pm

At 2.09 meters tall he's tall enough to be a lock.
137 kilos make him big enough to be a prop
100 meters in 10.1 seconds makes him fast enough to be an Olympic sprinter

But he isn't any of these things. He is the new crusaders winger Nemani Nadolo.

Freshly poached from Fiji under the cover of darkness by NZ's elite SAS "blackshore one" specialist rugby talent extraction and "on-shoring" unit, the "sprinting mountain" of Fiji was quickly brainwashed and fitted out in crusaders kit.

The NZRU are already looking into a potential loop hole in IRB regulation which seems to imply a player who convinces them he was suffered an acute bout of amnesia and changes his name to something vaugely more Moari-sounding such as "Nau Mai Turangiwaiwai" may qualify for All Blacks selection.

Crusader's coach Todd Blackadder was said "If you ever went nuts with the player customisation option in a hacked version of Rugby Challenge and made yourself a 10 foot tall winger who could run at 11, it's like that, but only real."

Look out world, youre been warned!

by aucklandlaurie Tue 29 Oct 2013, 9:10 pm

Its like rugby asylum being offered to rugby Refugees.

by Tiger/Chief Tue 29 Oct 2013, 9:25 pm

He played for Exeter, got booted out of the club for Drink Driving, the club would have supported him through the incident but he also was a negative influence in the squad, causing in fighting and allegedly was involved in a incident in the town centre involving 4 injured bouncers haha!

An immense talent... But wasn't wired towards being a proffesional in his time in Devon

by Guest Tue 29 Oct 2013, 9:48 pm

He sounds more Australian to me, from his Wiki page.

Also, seems to have been around the block a bit and not done much of note. Distinctly average.

by tigerleghorn Tue 29 Oct 2013, 10:10 pm

Tiger/Chief wrote:He played for Exeter, got booted out of the club for Drink Driving, the club would have supported him through the incident but he also was a negative influence in the squad, causing in fighting and allegedly was involved in a incident in the town centre involving 4 injured bouncers haha!

An immense talent... But wasn't wired towards being a proffesional in his time in Devon

I heard he subsequently tried to get numerous trials with various Prem Clubs and was considered damaged goods.

by GloriousEmpire Tue 29 Oct 2013, 10:11 pm

Not coached adequately. We saw what the NH coaching set
Up did to let down the likes of Kelleher, McAlistair, Brett and so forth.

NZ will iron him out and turn him into the superstar that is his destiny. Look how Cardiff even squandered Lomu!

by Guest Tue 29 Oct 2013, 10:13 pm

GE, is this move to counter the loss of that big 6'8" 17 year old local lad to Melbourne Storm recently? A future all black that one, no doubt. Pity.

by tigerleghorn Tue 29 Oct 2013, 10:16 pm

Been there done that GE. You'll be on here claiming a classy Rock group has been discovered in NZ next.

by tigerleghorn Tue 29 Oct 2013, 10:20 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:Not coached adequately. We saw what the NH coaching set
Up did to let down the likes of Kelleher, McAlistair, Brett and so forth.

NZ will iron him out and turn him into the superstar that is his destiny. Look how Cardiff even squandered Lomu!

Not coached well enough to avoid the attention of the Police?

by aucklandlaurie Tue 29 Oct 2013, 10:21 pm

Griff wrote:GE, is this move to counter the loss of that big 6'8" 17 year old local lad to Melbourne Storm recently? A future all black that one, no doubt. Pity.

Wow, Griff Im really impressed that you know about this, he is a Solomona, a very famous name in League circles down here. This guys is a huge loss to New Zealand future Rugby.

by Tiger/Chief Tue 29 Oct 2013, 10:24 pm

I read on Facebook about the lad that's been lost to league aged just 14! I'm sure if he has the talent he will play both codes

by tigerleghorn Tue 29 Oct 2013, 10:26 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Griff wrote:GE, is this move to counter the loss of that big 6'8" 17 year old local lad to Melbourne Storm recently? A future all black that one, no doubt. Pity.
Wow, Griff Im really impressed that you know about this, he is a Solomona, a very famous name in League circles down here. This guys is a huge loss to New Zealand future Rugby.

I have no doubt GE will put a different spin on this AL

by Taylorman Tue 29 Oct 2013, 10:33 pm

Doubt hes 10.1 for the 100m, thats bordering on Olympic semi or better pace...Even Alan Wells won it in 10.25...

by GloriousEmpire Tue 29 Oct 2013, 10:39 pm

tigerleghorn wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:Not coached adequately. We saw what the NH coaching set
Up did to let down the likes of Kelleher, McAlistair, Brett and so forth.

NZ will iron him out and turn him into the superstar that is his destiny. Look how Cardiff even squandered Lomu!
Not coached well enough to avoid the attention of the Police?

Apology accepted

by blackcanelion Wed 30 Oct 2013, 12:46 am

tigerleghorn wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Griff wrote:GE, is this move to counter the loss of that big 6'8" 17 year old local lad to Melbourne Storm recently? A future all black that one, no doubt. Pity.
Wow, Griff Im really impressed that you know about this, he is a Solomona, a very famous name in League circles down here. This guys is a huge loss to New Zealand future Rugby.
I have no doubt GE will put a different spin on this AL

He was in the colts sides with one of the lads we play touch with. Word is he's a union background, and league made the move. It'll be interesting to see how he goes. A lot of players never make it. He is a great natural talent he's already as big at 17 as the very biggest players playing either code. When you add fitness, speed and coordination, there's definitely huge potential. I do wonder if he will end up being physically to big for to maximize his potential at league (he's already at the upper end of the size of people playing professionally).

by blackcanelion Wed 30 Oct 2013, 12:50 am

tigerleghorn wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:Not coached adequately. We saw what the NH coaching set
Up did to let down the likes of Kelleher, McAlistair, Brett and so forth.

NZ will iron him out and turn him into the superstar that is his destiny. Look how Cardiff even squandered Lomu!
Not coached well enough to avoid the attention of the Police?

I think the issue wasn't the driving offense, it was his nationality. He was hired as a Fijian. Unfortunately he moved to Australia at the age of 3 months and came up through the Australian system. Although he plays for Fiji he still travels on his Australian passport. The club got fined because he wasn't actually a Kolpak player, and they played too many foreign players.

by Taylorman Wed 30 Oct 2013, 1:24 am

blackcanelion wrote:
tigerleghorn wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Griff wrote:GE, is this move to counter the loss of that big 6'8" 17 year old local lad to Melbourne Storm recently? A future all black that one, no doubt. Pity.
Wow, Griff Im really impressed that you know about this, he is a Solomona, a very famous name in League circles down here. This guys is a huge loss to New Zealand future Rugby.
I have no doubt GE will put a different spin on this AL
He was in the colts sides with one of the lads we play touch with. Word is he's a union background, and league made the move. It'll be interesting to see how he goes. A lot of players never make it. He is a great natural talent he's already as big at 17 as the very biggest players playing either code. When you add fitness, speed and coordination, there's definitely huge potential. I do wonder if he will end up being physically to big for to maximize his potential at league (he's already at the upper end of the size of people playing professionally).

Yeah saw the article on the other night. Doesnt actually look 6'8" on the field (6' 8" is huge for anyone let alone a school kid ) but sure is big and athletic with it.

A little unsure about his maturity in that he seemed to be saying things that others might say rather than from his own experience...'being grounded'..'being who I wanna be not how someone else wants me to be'...all good ideals but at 17 he's not really in a position to speak from the sort of experiences he's yet to go through. Certainly will be followed...

by blackcanelion Wed 30 Oct 2013, 5:18 am

I didn't realise he'd been in tele. Here's the link for anyone who is interested: http://tvnz.co.nz/seven-sharp/meet-nelson-next-sbw-video-5662169

He's an upper hutt boy hoovered up by Wellington College.

by Icu Wed 30 Oct 2013, 5:36 am

blackcanelion wrote:
tigerleghorn wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:Not coached adequately. We saw what the NH coaching set
Up did to let down the likes of Kelleher, McAlistair, Brett and so forth.

NZ will iron him out and turn him into the superstar that is his destiny. Look how Cardiff even squandered Lomu!
Not coached well enough to avoid the attention of the Police?
I think the issue wasn't the driving offense, it was his nationality. He was hired as a Fijian. Unfortunately he moved to Australia at the age of 3 months and came up through the Australian system. Although he plays for Fiji he still travels on his Australian passport. The club got fined because he wasn't actually a Kolpak player, and they played too many foreign players.

So, he's one of ours then? Wouldn't surprise me if the ARU let this guy slip through their fingers.

by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 30 Oct 2013, 5:44 am

Crusaders definitely need a little punch out wide and this guy seems to fit the bill. Whistle

by Guest Wed 30 Oct 2013, 7:17 am

blackcanelion wrote:I didn't realise he'd been in tele. Here's the link for anyone who is interested: http://tvnz.co.nz/seven-sharp/meet-nelson-next-sbw-video-5662169

He's an upper hutt boy hoovered up by Wellington College.

Yeah, this is the clip that I saw too. Sounds like he used to get in a bit of trouble with the cops, etc. but rugby has helped to turn his attitude around. Can't believe he used to get picked on for his large size! Watch out bullies!!!

by Guest Wed 30 Oct 2013, 7:20 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Griff wrote:GE, is this move to counter the loss of that big 6'8" 17 year old local lad to Melbourne Storm recently? A future all black that one, no doubt. Pity.
Wow, Griff Im really impressed that you know about this, he is a Solomona, a very famous name in League circles down here. This guys is a huge loss to New Zealand future Rugby.

I'll take that as a compliment Laurie! I'm a fan of all things rugby, so read and watch rugby news from all around the world, not just the UK and Ireland. Let's be honest, welsh rugby news is a bit dry and boring most of the time, unless Mike Phillips has been on the booze again, so it's good to read about superstars in the making rather than squabbles between the union and the regions like we have at home!

by GunsGerms Wed 30 Oct 2013, 9:43 am

GloriousEmpire wrote:Not coached adequately. We saw what the NH coaching set
Up did to let down the likes of Kelleher, McAlistair, Brett and so forth.

NZ will iron him out and turn him into the superstar that is his destiny. Look how Cardiff even squandered Lomu!

Coaching in France can be quite poor and disorganised aparently. Its more professional in Ireland and England for example.

by fa0019 Wed 30 Oct 2013, 10:44 am

GloriousEmpire wrote:At 2.09 meters tall he's tall enough to be a lock.
137 kilos make him big enough to be a prop
100 meters in 10.1 seconds makes him fast enough to be an Olympic sprinter

But he isn't any of these things. He is the new crusaders winger Nemani Nadolo.

Freshly poached from Fiji under the cover of darkness by NZ's elite SAS "blackshore one" specialist rugby talent extraction and "on-shoring" unit, the "sprinting mountain" of Fiji was quickly brainwashed and fitted out in crusaders kit.

The NZRU are already looking into a potential loop hole in IRB regulation which seems to imply a player who convinces them he was suffered an acute bout of amnesia and changes his name to something vaugely more Moari-sounding such as "Nau Mai Turangiwaiwai" may qualify for All Blacks selection.

Crusader's coach Todd Blackadder was said "If you ever went nuts with the player customisation option in a hacked version of Rugby Challenge and made yourself a 10 foot tall winger who could run at 11, it's like that, but only real."

Look out world, youre been warned!

same old GE,

Billed weight 137kg - listed weight in all other news sources 118kg.
Billed height 2.09m - actual height 1.95m

100m time, highly highly unlikely. Perhaps hand timed at school when he was far far lighter... and then had he been so he would have been the fastest junior in the world by a clear margin.

With the modern day bulk added to players if any back can do sub11 seconds even amongst test players they will be a rare rare commodity. Its not what they did before when lighter, its what they have achieved.

sounds like GE has been doing PR for the WWE or Tom Cruise.

by whocares Wed 30 Oct 2013, 11:17 am

GunsGerms wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:Not coached adequately. We saw what the NH coaching set
Up did to let down the likes of Kelleher, McAlistair, Brett and so forth.

NZ will iron him out and turn him into the superstar that is his destiny. Look how Cardiff even squandered Lomu!
Coaching in France can be quite poor and disorganised aparently. Its more professional in Ireland and England for example.

pretty poor comment GG. I appreciate it was a reply to some GE rubbish but still...
at amateur and kid level it can be debated but at professional club level I dont think our coaches are poorer than in Ireland or england as international coaches are often from the same group (PSA coached sale, schmidt was in clermont, cheika did leinster and stade etc etc) .

for the sake of the argument , Kelleher was well managed in Toulouse (strong coach) and delivered results and performances. he moved to bayonne and stade after but was useless and more interested in chasing girls and emptying bottles than playing rugby anyway. McAlister hasnt changed when in France (blowing hot and cold as always) while stephen Brett just arrived from Japan in Bayonne so difficult to judge!

by fa0019 Wed 30 Oct 2013, 11:20 am

I think its more the attitude to be fair. French players are accustom to the difference, foreigners are not.

I here that fitness training is put on the sly and expected to be conducted in your own time compared to the rest of the world.

Frans Steyn went from winger to prop in 2 seasons due to being left to his own devices after being kept in a strict regime in SA prior to moving.

by whocares Wed 30 Oct 2013, 12:05 pm

fa0019 wrote:I think its more the attitude to be fair. French players are accustom to the difference, foreigners are not.

I here that fitness training is put on the sly and expected to be conducted in your own time compared to the rest of the world.

Frans Steyn went from winger to prop in 2 seasons due to being left to his own devices after being kept in a strict regime in SA prior to moving.

fitness training is different over here I appreciate (the game is slower and players , specially forwards will tend to build more muscle) but nowadays it's part of club training not own time. overall it is less strict than in SA for sure (even according to michalak). we should send our players over there on time to time.

by Majestic83 Wed 30 Oct 2013, 1:49 pm

fa0019 wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:At 2.09 meters tall he's tall enough to be a lock.
137 kilos make him big enough to be a prop
100 meters in 10.1 seconds makes him fast enough to be an Olympic sprinter

But he isn't any of these things. He is the new crusaders winger Nemani Nadolo.

Freshly poached from Fiji under the cover of darkness by NZ's elite SAS "blackshore one" specialist rugby talent extraction and "on-shoring" unit, the "sprinting mountain" of Fiji was quickly brainwashed and fitted out in crusaders kit.

The NZRU are already looking into a potential loop hole in IRB regulation which seems to imply a player who convinces them he was suffered an acute bout of amnesia and changes his name to something vaugely more Moari-sounding such as "Nau Mai Turangiwaiwai" may qualify for All Blacks selection.

The stats of 1.95m and weighing around 120kg are the more accurate ones. He was at the Western Force for a season but didn't really get any game time and played mostly for their development team, also played club rugby on the west coast when he was working for a doorman, he then had a spell playing in France for Bourgoin before going back to Australia and playing for the Waratahs but again didn't get much game time despite being top try scorer and showing lots of promise in the shute shield. After that went to France again, then Exeter and has been playing in Japan since. From what I know of him from the force he was quite a popular guy in the squad and was fairly quiet and easy going.
He played for Australia u20s at the world cup of that year and scored a fair few tries for them, think it was the same year Pocock played at the u20s world cup.

He is pretty rapid for a guy of his size but his best times at the force were around 10.8 s for the 100m.

His cousin is Lote Tuquiri.

Crusader's coach Todd Blackadder was said "If you ever went nuts with the player customisation option in a hacked version of Rugby Challenge and made yourself a 10 foot tall winger who could run at 11, it's like that, but only real."

Look out world, youre been warned!
same old GE,

Billed weight 137kg - listed weight in all other news sources 118kg.
Billed height 2.09m - actual height 1.95m

100m time, highly highly unlikely. Perhaps hand timed at school when he was far far lighter... and then had he been so he would have been the fastest junior in the world by a clear margin.

With the modern day bulk added to players if any back can do sub11 seconds even amongst test players they will be a rare rare commodity. Its not what they did before when lighter, its what they have achieved.

sounds like GE has been doing PR for the WWE or Tom Cruise.

by sirtidychris Wed 30 Oct 2013, 4:23 pm

I love how every new big winger that comes along is compared to Lomu (looking at media reports) the thing is no one comes close to him still..decades on !! 196cm, 120kg verified time of 10.89 seconds in the 100m and at the age of 19 years became the youngest All Black test player ever. If it wasnt for his kidney problem i think he would hold most the records out there !

by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 30 Oct 2013, 4:34 pm

Ben Smith is the new Lomu. He's been a sensation on the wing but sadly he's been having internal issues that have seen him no longer playing on the wing.

by fa0019 Wed 30 Oct 2013, 4:53 pm

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Ben Smith is the new Lomu. He's been a sensation on the wing but sadly he's been having internal issues that have seen him no longer playing on the wing.

Smith is having a breakthrough season but others will watch him and in a season or two teams will have him well marked and learn his behaviour... his try rate will naturally drop. Still if kept on his toes will be another Howlett, Habana, Robinson, Williams, Wilson, North etc.

but there will never be another Lomu... not for another 100years.

People were saying he wouldn't have the same impact in the pro era as he did in the 90s... ever see him in 01-02? He still ripped teams to shreds when he was half crocked and seriously ill.

There are an awful load of pros out there today who owe their entire professional existence to the great man.

by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 30 Oct 2013, 7:25 pm

Poor attempt at humour fa on my part. Ben Smith has moved inside to 13 and wasn't too flash against Australia hence internal problems which in no way is similar to kidney issues. I'll get me coat...

Lomu like you say is incomparable and any comparison to Lomu is invariably a compliment to Lomu rather than the new player. If they're good enough they don't need a comparison.

by Taylorman Wed 30 Oct 2013, 8:15 pm

fa0019 wrote:
kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Ben Smith is the new Lomu. He's been a sensation on the wing but sadly he's been having internal issues that have seen him no longer playing on the wing.
Smith is having a breakthrough season but others will watch him and in a season or two teams will have him well marked and learn his behaviour... his try rate will naturally drop. Still if kept on his toes will be another Howlett, Habana, Robinson, Williams, Wilson, North etc.

but there will never be another Lomu... not for another 100years.

People were saying he wouldn't have the same impact in the pro era as he did in the 90s... ever see him in 01-02? He still ripped teams to shreds when he was half crocked and seriously ill.

There are an awful load of pros out there today who owe their entire professional existence to the great man.

Now that I agree with. For me by a clear street the best player with ball in hand in the games history. If you were to pick a side of all time players to play some side from another planet at their very best- Lomu would be the first name on the list. You would want Lomu at his best less than any other player on the opposing side.

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