Warren Gatland : BBC Sports Personality Coach of the Year

Another award ceremony. Another award for the Kiwi who had his recent Uk coaching award ratified with a second gong.

The undisputed British coach of the year for his efforts with the lions, who were also team of the year.

Well done to the Kiwi, for topping the rankings in his adopted home land.

His abrasive media style, many time maligned controversial pre-game media mind games and ability to make harsh and unpopular selectorial decisions seem to point the way forward for British coaches.

Leigh Halfpenny's bid to be sports personality of the year was dashed by charismatic Scotsman Brit Andy Murray, who unlike Leigh, couldn't be there in person and then revealing a snag in the process had to apologise for sounding so dull and indifferent, revealing that he just didn't come across with very much personality despite being fairly good at tennis. Perhaps he needed some lessons on media handling from fellow scot Brit, X factor runner up Nicholas McDonald who I'm sure would've said it was "as aaaaaabsolutely amazun' aaaaabsolutely increeeedible and that it just meant aaaaaaabsolutely everythun'" to him. Twelve times.

GloriousEmpire wrote:Another award ceremony. Another award for the Kiwi who had his recent Uk coaching award ratified with a second gong.

The undisputed British coach of the year for his efforts with the lions, who were also team of the year.

Well done to the Kiwi, for topping the rankings in his adopted home land.

His abrasive media style, many time maligned controversial pre-game media mind games and ability to make harsh and unpopular selectorial decisions seem to point the way forward for British coaches.

An accolade that you may one day achieve GE. If you live that long under the NHS...   

Well let's hope neither of us fall ill.

Yet another fantastic achievement by Gats. The man is a future All Blacks coach. The haters are gonna love this! BOD and Keith Wood, where are ya boys?

he deserved it for British Coach of the Year. for having the bravery to make the unpopular decision and face down player wrath if nothing else. we team GB didnt have that much else to crow about. And the Lions is very much a British team. But not sure why he got the Wales coach of the year award when he handed over all wales 6N duties to Howley, who did do a great job.

Quote BoD :"Well done turnip Head!"

Quote Wood: "Top of the morning to ye. Although Gats aka Turnip Head instrumented the first Lions series win in 16 years and won British coach of the year, he still got that team selection for the third test wrong."

fortunately for gats, wood didnt get a vote:)

Haha great, just brilliant
Galtand Coach of the Year
Lion team of the Year
and Halfpenny in at Second (looked petrified, bless)
Great night for welsh and British rugby

Great night for Welsh rugby, I mean British   
Bring on the haters  

Jhamer25 wrote:Haha great, just brilliant
Galtand Coach of the Year
Lion team of the Year
and Halfpenny in at Second (looked petrified, bless)
Great night for welsh and British rugby

Bring on the haters   

made the correction for you free of charge. you're welcome.

Triumphant Gatland, is a term we're all used to hearing to be fair. So I don't suppose it will be out of the ordinary to hear that come March. #treblechamps

Dunno. There'd be a kind if symmetry to it if 1/2p had finished second to an Aussie, rather than a scot.

Oooh got a bite already. Not time to reel them in yet though   

haha. i think chucking gatland into the water is the fishing equivalent of dynamiting

2nd prize for coach of the year was a Y reg National Express based in Victoria.....boom boom   

What would Glorious do without the NHS and Gatland to fuel his Wummery! Well done Gatland, much deserved for a Lions success perhaps the 606 debunkers could give it a rest bu ti doubt it.
Such is the price of success, those that yearn for greatness always have to be detractors…..one can't wait for GE's analysis of the Honours system when he is Knighted in the New Years Honours list.

GloriousEmpire wrote:Dunno. There'd be a kind if symmetry to it if 1/2p had finished second to an Aussie, rather than a scot.

If you had been a proper resident of the UK you would know that no one was going to get the Sports personality over Mr Murray. Winning Wimbledon for the first time since the 1930's no one was going to get it over him.

Now I will have to sit down and think of NZ's last winner of an open tennis tournament, won't take long mind.

Scratch wrote:What would Glorious do without the NHS and Gatland to fuel his Wummery! Well done Gatland, much deserved for a Lions success perhaps the 606 debunkers could give it a rest bu ti doubt it.
Such is the price of success, those that yearn for greatness always have to be detractors…..one can't wait for GE's analysis of the Honours system when he is Knighted in the New Years Honours list.

He will be awarded The Wummery And Trash and deservedly so

Saint, go on youtube and look up the SNL hashtagging skit. Please....  

Well done Gats, Halfp.

rainbow-warrior wrote:

GloriousEmpire wrote:Dunno. There'd be a kind if symmetry to it if 1/2p had finished second to an Aussie, rather than a scot.

If you had been a proper resident of the UK you would know that no one was going to get the Sports personality over Mr Murray.  Winning Wimbledon for the first time since the 1930's no one was going to get it over him.

Now I will have to sit down and think of NZ's last winner of an open tennis tournament, won't take long mind.

True. That would be difficult. You'd have to go back to '83 to even find a finalist. When did Wales last have a run of open champions ..I mean that comment must have been inspired by something rainbow?

There hasn't been a more deserved winner since Zara Phillips won SPOTY.

Anthony Wilding won 3 or 4 times Wimbledon in the 1910s (and also the french once) but that was way before the open era. Other than cant recall a Kiwi winning a big tournament.

Personally I think that the forgotten man is Rob Howley. In my opinion he deserves to win coach of the year much more than Gatland. Retaining the six nations is an incredible achievement particularly after starting with a loss compared to how brilliantly they ended the tournament.

Gatland made very tough work of a fairly uninspiring Lions tour against an Australian squad in complete disarray so I honestly think that Howley's six nations win was a bigger achievement.

If only Bill Mclaren could be there to remind us in his inimitable brogue, that  they would be dancing in the streets of Dunblane and singing arias at Gorseinon Rugby club.
And a Haka... somewhere far away....

Delighted Murray won the award. It was of course a one horse race. Murray is probably one of the most interesting athletes in the world because he is himself rather a reflection of what his pr team think the media want him to be. Well done Andy Murray, keep trucking!!

http://www.irelandtravelkit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/turnip-580x435.jpg

  


Poor Howley, the man behind the 2013 6 nations title is forgotten once again.

GunsGerms wrote:Personally I think that the forgotten man is Rob Howley. In my opinion he deserves to win coach of the year much more than Gatland. Retaining the six nations is an incredible achievement particularly after starting with a loss compared to how brilliantly they ended the tournament.

Gatland made very tough work of a fairly uninspiring Lions tour against an Australian squad in complete disarray so I honestly think that Howley's six nations win was a bigger achievement.

You could make a case for a lot of other awards though. Personally, I consider Wigan's Rugby League achievements this year better than the Lions. Team Sky maybe too.

You could make a case against Rob Howley that they won the Six Nations despite of him. It was only one game Wales performed well in.

[quote="Risca Rev"]

GunsGerms wrote:

You could make a case against Rob Howley that they won the Six Nations despite of him. It was only one game Wales performed well in.

       

bedfordwelsh wrote:

Risca Rev wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

You could make a case against Rob Howley that they won the Six Nations despite of him. It was only one game Wales performed well in.

       

Eh, I didnt write that. You could also make a case that the Lions won despite Gatlands rather strange plan A tactics and lack of creativity. Why does Gatland get the benefit of the doubt and not Howley? the Lions only played particularly well in one game too.

GunsGerms wrote:

bedfordwelsh wrote:

Risca Rev wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

You could make a case against Rob Howley that they won the Six Nations despite of him. It was only one game Wales performed well in.

       

Eh, I didnt write that. You could also make a case that the Lions won despite Gatlands rather strange plan A tactics and lack of creativity. Why does Gatland get the benefit of the doubt and not Howley? the Lions only played particularly well in one game too.

Who was the man responsible for making the Lions a creative force? Howley the attack coach.

I think we all know that the buck stops with Gatland and Howley nor Farrell had much input on how the Lions played. His stamp was all over how they played.

In any case by your logic Howley coached both the Lions and Wales to victory so clearly was the most sucessful coach of the year.

and now extended his Welsh contract till 2019 world cup . didnt see that one coming

jimmyinthewell68 wrote:and now extended his Welsh contract till 2019 world cup . didnt see that one coming

Receipe for disaster. Wales have a really tough group in the next WC. What if they dont and it is a real possibility, get out of their group?

Gatland's gameplan hasnt evolved much in the last few years. What happens if they start losing games in the 6n. Is Gatland capable of evolving this Welsh side beyone their current plan A?

Bad move from the WRU IMO because there is nothing like a long term contract to instill complacency.

Then we (English) shall be eternally grateful to the great Kiwi    if we top our WC group.

jimmyinthewell68 wrote:and now extended his Welsh contract till 2019 world cup . didnt see that one coming

Crazy!

Did anyone from the WRU see the AIs?
Why do they love him so much?  

Breadvan wrote:Saint, go on youtube and look up the SNL hashtagging skit. Please....  

Well done Gats, Halfp.

#slowmondaymorning? #thanks #2minsi'llnevergetback #comedy #lololololololol

Are some people really this pathetic. Gatland had coach of the year for coaching the LIONS team, in the VT they showed it said nothing about him winning because of his Six Nations triumph.
I guess you are all right though maybe Howley was second for BBC coach of the year after another great Six Nations win.  
A victorious Lions tour for Gats
and a Six Nations Championship for Howley
Both great coaches huh Scrumpy/GunsGerms

Jhamer25 wrote:Are some people really this pathetic. Gatland had coach of the year for coaching the LIONS team, in the VT they showed it said nothing about him winning because of his Six Nations triumph.
I guess you are all right though maybe Howley was second for BBC coach of the year after another great Six Nations win.  
A victorious Lions tour for Gats
and a Six Nations Championship for Howley
Both great coaches huh Scrumpy/GunsGerms

Maybe but Howley deserved the title more as his achievement was more impressive.

GunsGerms wrote:

Jhamer25 wrote:Are some people really this pathetic. Gatland had coach of the year for coaching the LIONS team, in the VT they showed it said nothing about him winning because of his Six Nations triumph.
I guess you are all right though maybe Howley was second for BBC coach of the year after another great Six Nations win.  
A victorious Lions tour for Gats
and a Six Nations Championship for Howley
Both great coaches huh Scrumpy/GunsGerms

Maybe but Howley deserved the title more as his achievement was more impressive.

Nah where use to winning Six Nations now   
A lions our on the other hand, now that was impressive  

rainbow-warrior wrote:

GloriousEmpire wrote:Dunno. There'd be a kind if symmetry to it if 1/2p had finished second to an Aussie, rather than a scot.

If you had been a proper resident of the UK you would know that no one was going to get the Sports personality over Mr Murray.  Winning Wimbledon for the first time since the 1930's no one was going to get it over him.

Now I will have to sit down and think of NZ's last winner of an open tennis tournament, won't take long mind.

Considering Britain's only produced one since Fred Perry back when Adam wore short pants, and they'll revert to that record when Scotland cut the apron strings next year, it's a bit of a limp argument isn't it?

We had Chris Lewis back in the 80's who made a Wimbledon final. Considering Brits have only managed that a couple of times themselves, it's not a bad achievement considering funding for tennis in NZ is about enough to get our top player's racquet restrung twice a year.

Tony Wilding won Wimbledon four consecutive times,  was world number 1 winning three world championships in the same year.  

Acutally, sorry, what was your totally un-researched point?

I'll leave you with some reading to start your research: http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/its-wimbledon-fortnight--welsh-1914877

GunsGerms wrote:

jimmyinthewell68 wrote:and now extended his Welsh contract till 2019 world cup . didnt see that one coming

Receipe for disaster. Wales have a really tough group in the next WC. What if they dont and it is a real possibility, get out of their group?

Gatland's gameplan hasnt evolved much in the last few years. What happens if they start losing games in the 6n. Is Gatland capable of evolving this Welsh side beyone their current plan A?

Bad move from the WRU IMO because there is nothing like a long term contract to instill complacency.

Why would they start losing games in the 6ns?...They have about 11 Lions players in their squad. We keep on hearing this "ALL THE TIME"

But i do understand what you mean, especially with a lot of their players going overseas as is the case. right?

BBC SPOTY results

1st a Scot
2nd a Welshman
3rd a Kiwi 
     

and well done by the way, but now everyone can STFU about the Beeb being Anglo centric.
  

majesticimperialman wrote:
Why would they start losing games in the 6ns?...They have about  11 Lions players in their squad. We keep on hearing this "ALL THE TIME"

But i do understand what you mean, especially with a lot of their players going overseas as is the case. right?

Anything can happen in the 6 nations. It was really close last year. Who knows what will happen. Racing Metro have about 5 Lions themselves and keep getting hammered in the Hcup. The point Im making is giving a manager a 6 year contract leaves you in a tough situation if things start going bad. Shorter term contracts are more likely to keep motivation sharp.

gregortree wrote:BBC  SPOTY results

1st a Scot
2nd a Welshman
3rd a Kiwi 
     

and well done by the way, but now everyone  can STFU about the Beeb being Anglo centric.
  

I think it's a public vote. I bet all the presenters and everyone working on the show were English though - and all voted for Beckham.

I think nearly any other year bar last year Justin Rose might have won. First English man to win a major since Faldo won the Open in 1992. Pretty sizable achievement.

In all fairness Ryan Giggs getting the award in 2009 was shambolic, so much of a sentimental gift I'm surprised it didn't come with wrapping paper.

Knowsit17 wrote:In all fairness Ryan Giggs getting the award in 2009 was shambolic, so much of a sentimental gift I'm surprised it didn't come with wrapping paper.

they had to give it to him then before his super-injunction fell over...

gregortree wrote:BBC  SPOTY results

1st a Scot
2nd a Welshman
3rd a Kiwi 
     

and well done by the way, but now everyone  can STFU about the Beeb being Anglo centric.
  

In that the awards themselves are quite patronising, perhaps their donation outside of England is merely more evidence of the anglocentric nature of the BBC?

GloriousEmpire wrote:

gregortree wrote:BBC  SPOTY results

1st a Scot
2nd a Welshman
3rd a Kiwi 
     

and well done by the way, but now everyone  can STFU about the Beeb being Anglo centric.
  

In that the awards themselves are quite patronising, perhaps their donation outside of England is merely more evidence of the anglocentric nature of the BBC?

even by your lame standards, this is particularly lame.

it is, in logical terms, akin to saying:

since Wales are the best team in Europe, the recognition by the Welsh team of the English as the second best team in Europe, is more evidence of the fact that Wales are the best team in Europe.

start with a false premise and use that, when combined with a related fact, of proving the false premise?  

few too many xmas drinks at lunchtime mate?

quinsforever wrote:

GloriousEmpire wrote:

gregortree wrote:BBC  SPOTY results

1st a Scot
2nd a Welshman
3rd a Kiwi 
     

and well done by the way, but now everyone  can STFU about the Beeb being Anglo centric.
  

In that the awards themselves are quite patronising, perhaps their donation outside of England is merely more evidence of the anglocentric nature of the BBC?

even by your lame standards, this is particularly lame.

it is, in logical terms, akin to saying:

since Wales are the best team in Europe, the recognition by the Welsh team of the English as the second best team in Europe, is more evidence of the fact that Wales are the best team in Europe.

start with a false premise and use that, when combined with a related fact, of proving the false premise?  

few too many xmas drinks at lunchtime mate?

Nope. It's not the same as saying that at all. Read it again and see if you can understand.