2014/15 starting lineups

First topic message reminder :

Evening all,

How do you guys predict your teams starting 11 will look next season?

Cheers

  Micah Richards to your dump. delusional. Cresswell's been linked with us, more likely to choose Newcastle, than your gaffe.    Barry, what are you smokin'? Where are you getting £50k+ a week from + you think he's interested in a relegation battle next season. Oh my days!

Hero wrote:-----------------De Gea-------------
Rafael----Jones---Martins Indi----Shaw
-----------------Carrick--------------
----------Strootman---Kroos---------
-----------------Mata----------------
-----------Rooney----RVP------------

Do you not see us going after a bit of experience in the defence? I know it would be cool seeing that back 5 evolve together but I believe the oldest would be Rafael at 23?? I reckon to cbs may come in, Indi Martins and maybe look at Hummels or go back to Garay

I still think Kroos is holding Munich over a barrel and the deciding factor will be whether they give in and offer him the money he wants, other than that pretty much agree this is what the team could look like

Don't see too many signings. Should be the same at the back unless Stones steps in for Distin if he finally starts showing signs of slowing down.
If Barry stays on great, if not Gibson should be fit to step in. Perhaps Martinez will look to buy another though.
Lallana would be great, I know its not realistic at this point but hey. Think we need another winger/forward of his class though with Deulefeu not coming back and Naismith/Pienaar/Osman only being good enough for the bench imo.
If we can't re loan Lukaku or seal a permanent deal for him then Bony would be ideal.

not sure everton have got the money for bony, i mean swansea paid 12mil for him and he's probably only gone up on value since proving he can do it in the English league

that for me is the big make or break for everton next season is can they replace the big gap lukaku will leave

Well with £85m earnt from the PL last season surely we'll have some money. I don't really know if any of it is realistic really but that is my ideal situation.

John wrote:  Micah Richards to your dump. delusional. Cresswell's been linked with us, more likely to choose Newcastle, than your gaffe.    Barry, what are you smokin'? Where are you getting £50k+ a week from + you think he's interested in a relegation battle next season. Oh my days!

To be fair John, people might prefer to play under Poyet over Pardew and not in a team owned by Mike Ashley

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:

John wrote:  Micah Richards to your dump. delusional. Cresswell's been linked with us, more likely to choose Newcastle, than your gaffe.    Barry, what are you smokin'? Where are you getting £50k+ a week from + you think he's interested in a relegation battle next season. Oh my days!

To be fair John, people might prefer to play under Poyet over Pardew and not in a team owned by Mike Ashley

Delusional, that's funny coming from a mag Wes Brown is on £50k a week and we would be saving abit on players were losing. I don't think he would join but would be nice to. If the teams continue on from the way they ended your team would be bottom as you lot were shocking towards the end.

You lot going to try and sign Rooney again

I believe Barry and Richards will be at bigger clubs than us next season (Richards to Liverpool and Barry to maybe Everton).

And why would Pardew go for Cresswell, he ain't french! Or has he decided finally that buying all french will see alot of toys being thrown from their prams!

Guzan
Lowton Vlaar NCB NLB
Bacuna ATM Delph Gabby                  
Weimann
NF.

subs:- NG, NEW SIGNING, Westwood, Okore, Luna, Drennan, Gardner, Grealish

Get rid of this 5 at the back.

Thats what I would like to see opening day of the season.

Want to see more of the young guys.

Drennan
Grealish
Robinson
Johnson
Carruthers.

gazzyD wrote:

Hero wrote:-----------------De Gea-------------
Rafael----Jones---Martins Indi----Shaw
-----------------Carrick--------------
----------Strootman---Kroos---------
-----------------Mata----------------
-----------Rooney----RVP------------

Do you not see us going after a bit of experience in the defence? I know it would be cool seeing that back 5 evolve together but I believe the oldest would be Rafael at 23?? I reckon to cbs may come in, Indi Martins and maybe look at Hummels or go back to Garay

I still think Kroos is holding Munich over a barrel and the deciding factor will be whether they give in and offer him the money he wants, other than that pretty much agree this is what the team could look like

Yes I'd much prefer to see Utd get Hummels in, but I think Martins Indi would be more likely with both the Dutch link for LVG and it's more of a step up for him rather than at present a backwards one from Dortmund for Hummels (though the increased wage and Utd's rep is still a tempter).
Fabregas rumours are abound again after Ballaque's tweeted he's available for 40m euros and that he's not included in Barca's marketing for next season (along with Pedro).

cant see us getting kroos and cesc its either one or the other, and at there current stages in their career think id prefer kroos

I'd prefer Kroos of the two as well but I wouldn't be complaining with either of them putting on a Chevrolet shirt next season.

Hero wrote:I'd prefer Kroos of the two as well but I wouldn't be complaining with either of them putting on a Chevrolet shirt next season.

no me neither, just struggle to see were they all fit in, but yeah think id take a midfield of cesc and kroos over clev and fellaini anyday

It'd be too immobile imo. Think you need a mobile CM in the PL, particularly if you play a midfield 2.

Strootman dependant upon recovering from injury is my preferred pairing with Kroos, think that combination of strength, possession and passing would be what Utd need.

GSC wrote:It'd be too immobile imo. Think you need a mobile CM in the PL, particularly if you play a midfield 2.

well everybody says LVG loves his diamond so:

---------mobile dm-------------
kroos-----------------cesc-----
------------mata---------------

wouldnt be a bad midfield, like i say cant see it but that midfield is miles better than anything we could put out last season

It'd be alright at home vs lesser teams.

Still think Mata-Rooney-RVP in the same team is destined for tears.

I love the comment from the UTD fan above...I dont want LVG as he is a dictator!!!???

Seriously?? What has the last 25 years of Utds success been under? Erm Ferguson...A DICTATOR!!!! What he said went...and if you disagreed you were gone!

Anyway as for teams....Newcastle ah god who knows. Guarentee there'll be new French faces in there though meh!!!    

Our form in 2014 was relegation form. If thats the case again, id rather put some of our youngsters in there...

-----Armstrong---Campbell
Gouffran----Sissoko--Abeid (Or a New Wigner)
-------------Tiote
M'Biwa--Streete--Colocinni--Dummett
-------------Krul

Young inexperienced and needs a bit more creativty, if we can find a young british playmaker....BUT its got young English/British lads in there to offer a bit more passion mixed with experience like Colocinni. Time to move away from Cheap french signings!!!

Mignolet
    Johnson          Srktel                  Sahko         Moreno  
                                      Gerrard
                    Henderson                  Lallana  
                                      Sterling
                         Suarez                 Sturridge

Subs: New GK, Borini, Coutinho, Agger, Flanagan, Emre Can & Allen

Don't see too many changes at Liverpool. I think a left or right back will definately be signed. I think with returning defenders such as Wisdom and Llori, and centre back won't be signed either. I also expect a defensive midfieler to be signed as lucas looks off. 3-4 signings will be enough for Liverpool I feel.

If you play that Newcastle team with Dummett and the two lads up front then you'll spiral.

The squad will look nothing like that, Pardew should just give his notice in, if the line-up looked like that. Geordie loves to bring through the youth, I'd like to see them given a chance but it won't happen.

More like this -
---------------Lacazette or Gomis---------------
Gouffran-----------Grenier------------Cabella/Townsend
---------Colback/Tiote-----Sissoko/Anita-----------
Dummett----Colo/Radu----Williamson/Taylor----Santon
--------------------- Krul---------------------------

Does any one have any thoughts on the champions?

Do they even need to change anything, and will any key players be allowed to leave?

CB and LB could use upgrades, potentially Dzeko leaving so depth needed in midfield and up front.

Theres that holding midfielder whose name escapes me, he seems to be City's main target. Sagna, him and maybe another forward

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Theres that holding midfielder whose name escapes me, he seems to be City's main target. Sagna, him and maybe another forward

fernando from porto

City are supposed to be in for Mangala as well, but possibly the FFP restrictions mean they can only do one big cash deal this summer. Got to be honest, the Sagna deal baffles me. Not sure he'll get in as first choice right back ahead of Zabaleta, so it seems a bit strange getting another overseas player when they may struggle to reach their home grown quota in Europe.

Their home grown quota got reduced to 3

I read a couple of reports saying City believe its been reduced by 3 to 5, meaning they will have one less overseas player. Doesn't look like UEFA have made an official ruling yet.

What's the point of reducing both the squad size and the home grown quota, I can imagine a few teams around Europe may look at that with bafflement.

compelling and rich wrote:

Hero wrote:I'd prefer Kroos of the two as well but I wouldn't be complaining with either of them putting on a Chevrolet shirt next season.

no me neither, just struggle to see were they all fit in

Don't think that's going to be an issue...

Why because neither would want to join us?

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:If you play that Newcastle team with Dummett and the two lads up front then you'll spiral.

Well if it comes to spirralling then id rather do it with a few of our home grown kids in there than a bunch of french nobodies with no passion or nothing.

As John correctly says, i am a big fan of looking for local North east talent to represent the team, then young british lads. Im fed up of all these cheap french signings. The odd one work like Cabaye, the rest dont!
We have players coming through...it annoys me that Pardew hasnt given any of them a chance in the last 5-6 games this season which were meaningless and we lost them all anyway. It would be better to have lost giving our young local lads a game...nothing to lose and they would have been busting a gut to play for their team! We might have won a couple.

John also rightly says the team wont look like that next season. It will be more like he says. And unfortunately thats the team that was relegation form in 2014.

--------------------Gomis??--------------
Gouffran-----------Grenier------------Sissoko
----------------Tiote-----Anita-----------
Dummett----Colo---------Williamson----Santon
--------------------- Krul---------------------------.

----------Adrian
New RB Reid Tomkins A.Cole
Noble NEW DM
Downing Morrison Zarate
Carroll

Barry or Kouyate in DM. Lescott maybe for Tomkins.
(Nolan will more than likely play where Morrison is)

You would hope last year was Nolan's last surely as a starter? He was pretty poor most of the year and it might be a symbolic sign if Allardyce does drop him to show he is willing to change styles.

You'd hope. He wont. He likes him, he likes how he marshalls the team and he works very hard. Sadly, I just don't think hes on it any more. He is a brilliant captain and does score important goals, but he needs to be used smarter. However, Sam has never rested him or dropped him.

Swansea could be...

                        Fabianski

      Rangel...Flores/Bartley...Ash...Davies

Hernandez/Dyer..Shelvey/Canas...Britton/De Guz....Routledge

                Michu/Bony
                                Castaignos

Rumours so far are..Bony to *insert random club here* Ash Williams to Qpr. Caulker in from CC, Vorm to Liverpool + 1.5 mil and Swans get Borini.

Well after a sudden influx of quality signings and some still expected we are looking a bit stronger.
 

How are starting line-ups looking guys?

De gea
Jones smalling Evans
Valencia fletcher Herrera young
Mata
Rooney welbeck

Rvp will come in when up to speed. Carrick and januzaj the other players who might trouble the line up.

Pantilimon
Vergini - brown - o'shea - van aanholt
Rodwell
Johnson - Larsson - cattermole - giaccharini
Wickham

That's what I can see at the minute. Borini will fit in somewhere if (when) he signs but can't see him being a lone striker. Also Conor wockh is stalling on a new contract. Poyet telling him to sign or be sold. The think is, we aren't offering him a rise. It is simply an extension of what he is on. Southampton are sniffing around.

Our defence worries me. They have experience but are very slow. Wes brown likes a red card. I've never been a fan of o'shea but he is the best of a bad bunch IMO.

Ent wrote:De gea
Jones smalling Evans
Valencia fletcher Herrera young
Mata
Rooney welbeck

Rvp will come in when up to speed. Carrick and januzaj the other players who might trouble the line up.

No £27 million new signing?

Nope.

Looks lost at wing back.

Although Valencia has injured himself so might get in there or force his way in during the season.

Lallana will probably take Markovic or Coutinho's spot when fit. Expect Moreno to have been signed and take left back, Manquillo might take right back. Can, Allen and Skrtel will all be pushing for starting spots as well.

Glad that for the first time for a long time there is actually decent depth in a Liverpool side. For far too long the first eleven has picked itself and the bench looked awful. Rodgers may now actually start being able to change games with substituions.

Ent wrote:Nope.

Looks lost at wing back.

Although Valencia has injured himself so might get in there or force his way in during the season.

Just can't see him not starting.

I understand why Van Gaal has switched to 3-5-2, to get the best out of his three attacking stars but defensively it's very odd as he doesn't have enough centre backs and the players he's got to play wing back don't suit it.

Crimey wrote:

Ent wrote:Nope.

Looks lost at wing back.

Although Valencia has injured himself so might get in there or force his way in during the season.

Just can't see him not starting.

I understand why Van Gaal has switched to 3-5-2, to get the best out of his three attacking stars but defensively it's very odd as he doesn't have enough centre backs and the players he's got to play wing back don't suit it.

5/6 pre season games 3412, not going to abandon that so close to the new season.

Shaw really doesn't look anything special at wb, Valencia and young have been far superior going forward and back.

*When Theo is back expecting this
------------------Chesney
Debuchy --Mertesacker --Koscielny -- Gibbs
------------DM --------Ramsey
Walcott --------Ozil -----------Cazorla
-------------Sanchez

*Until then

------------------Chesney
Debuchy --Mertesacker --Koscielny -- Gibbs
------------DM --------Ramsey
Sanchez --------Ozil -----------Cazorla
----------------Giroud

Ive put DM since it seems inevitable.

Ent wrote:

Crimey wrote:

Ent wrote:Nope.

Looks lost at wing back.

Although Valencia has injured himself so might get in there or force his way in during the season.

Just can't see him not starting.

I understand why Van Gaal has switched to 3-5-2, to get the best out of his three attacking stars but defensively it's very odd as he doesn't have enough centre backs and the players he's got to play wing back don't suit it.

5/6 pre season games 3412, not going to abandon that so close to the new season.

Shaw really doesn't look anything special at wb, Valencia and young have been far superior going forward and back.

I don't think he will switch, but just find it odd that he's chosen a system which while good for Mata, Rooney and RVP has exposed an already weak looking defence and any injuries to a centre back will be pretty devastating.

We will be looking for a centre back I'm sure.

I don't think it exposes us really, we defend with 5 men and have the 2 cms screening- it's less exposed if anything.

Last few weeks of transfer market will be interesting.

Also we are carrying mata IMO.

Crimey wrote:

Mignolet

Johnson Lovren Sakho Enrique

Gerrard

Henderson - Coutinho

Markovic - - Sturridge - - Sterling

Lallana will probably take Markovic or Coutinho's spot when fit. Expect Moreno to have been signed and take left back, Manquillo might take right back. Can, Allen and Skrtel will all be pushing for starting spots as well.

Glad that for the first time for a long time there is actually decent depth in a Liverpool side. For far too long the first eleven has picked itself and the bench looked awful. Rodgers may now actually start being able to change games with substituions.

I don't see Markovic starting straight away. He's only played one match for Liverpool in pre-season and still has a nagging injury keeping him out. Unfortunately, I see Allen starting in his place pushing Coutinho out wide. I would prefer Can but we all know how Rodgers admires Allen and to be fair, he has done a somewhat decent job so far in pre season. I would also like to see us play a diamond formation instead of 4-3-3 with coutinho behind Sturridge and Sterling.

Still a few signings short but I'd expect something like this at the moment...

---------Foster-------
Wisdom--Olsson--Lescott--Pocognoli
Gamboa--Mulumbu--Gardner--Brunt
---------Sessengeon-----------------
------------Ideye---------------------

But we're still after a wide player(Minimum 1, maybe 2) and another forward so hopefully Gamboa to right back with a new wide player in front of him, and two up front with Sess either dropping to the bench or to the left in place of Brunt.