We Go Again! The 2014/15 Premier League Thread

by Liam Sun 24 Aug 2014, 6:50 pm

First topic message reminder :

such a shame Strootman got injured before the world cup. Think he'd be at the club otherwise. He should have been here last summer along with thiago but we ballsed it up and ended up with fellaini.

by **Hero** Sat 20 Sep 2014, 11:16 am

And what have Arsenal/Liverpool shown?
They've both been decidedly poor so far themselves.

by **Crimey** Sat 20 Sep 2014, 11:27 am

Hero wrote:All the betting firms have Utd to finish higher than Liverpool/Arsenal.

Almost definitely because of all the stupid people who started putting a load of bets on it after the QPR game.

by GSC Sat 20 Sep 2014, 11:27 am

Arsenal drawing with City is more impressive than thrashing QPR at home tbh.

In any case, after last season, both would get the benefit of the doubt over United at this stage.

by mystiroakey Sat 20 Sep 2014, 11:37 am

This is what will happen

1 Chelsea
2 city
3 arsenal
4 man united

Liverpool will win the CL
Everton will win UEFA Cup

End result... Man u still don't get in the CL as even with the new rule changes to the winners of the European cups getting passes in to the CL. No league can have 6 teams in the CL. Its 5 at Max....

by Duty281 Sat 20 Sep 2014, 11:42 am

I agree with Mysti's top four. Liverpool's defence is a total shambles, even more so than United's somehow, and they lack a world-class striker which bailed them out of such defensive troubles last season. Oh and they persist with playing Gerrard; his legs are absolutely gone.

by Guest Sat 20 Sep 2014, 11:43 am

Crimey wrote:
Hero wrote:All the betting firms have Utd to finish higher than Liverpool/Arsenal.

Almost definitely because of all the stupid people who started putting a load of bets on it after the QPR game.

I think the fight for 3rd and 4th is between Utd and Arsenal.

Been disappointed with Liverpool so far. Early days I know, but still.

Think the bookies have got it right.

by **hampo17** Sat 20 Sep 2014, 11:45 am

I don't understand why United are all of a sudden top four team? They beat a very average QPR team and people are talking like they smashed Chelsea. Their defence is still awful, teams that attack them will get a lot of success.

by Guest Sat 20 Sep 2014, 11:47 am

hampo171 wrote:I don't understand why United are all of a top four team? They beat a very average QPR team and people are talking like they smashed Chelsea. Their defence is still awful, teams that attack them will get a lot of success.

No European campaign is a big plus for them.

There's no outstanding defence in this league. Utd's firepower will see them alright.

by Duty281 Sat 20 Sep 2014, 12:27 pm

hampo171 wrote:I don't understand why United are all of a sudden top four team? They beat a very average QPR team and people are talking like they smashed Chelsea. Their defence is still awful, teams that attack them will get a lot of success.

I have been saying they would finish fourth, ahead of Liverpool, since the start of the season, so not all of a sudden for me.

by **Crimey** Sat 20 Sep 2014, 12:36 pm

Duty281 wrote:I agree with Mysti's top four. Liverpool's defence is a total shambles, even more so than United's somehow, and they lack a world-class striker which bailed them out of such defensive troubles last season. Oh and they persist with playing Gerrard; his legs are absolutely gone.

And Pirlo and Alonso have plenty of legs do they? It's not necessary in his position to be busting a gut over 100 metres, he's supposed to be sitting and distributing. He's not a defensive midfielder.

by Duty281 Sat 20 Sep 2014, 12:51 pm

Crimey wrote:
Duty281 wrote:I agree with Mysti's top four. Liverpool's defence is a total shambles, even more so than United's somehow, and they lack a world-class striker which bailed them out of such defensive troubles last season. Oh and they persist with playing Gerrard; his legs are absolutely gone.

And Pirlo and Alonso have plenty of legs do they? It's not necessary in his position to be busting a gut over 100 metres, he's supposed to be sitting and distributing. He's not a defensive midfielder.

The difference being of course than Alonso and Pirlo, especially the latter, have far greater enduring talent and quality than Gerrard.

The recent Liverpool-Tottenham game is a testament to that: Gerrard was simply woeful in possession.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 20 Sep 2014, 12:52 pm

He doesn't have the range of passing those two do so it does become an issue but those slagging off United aren't taking into account how poor both Arsenal and Liverpool have looked.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:00 pm

Indeed, United havent done much to look incredible but Liverpool havent either. They'll win today, but it'll be interesting to see how comfortably.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:08 pm

Hero wrote:All the betting firms have Utd to finish higher than Liverpool/Arsenal.

You were last season aswell

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:11 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:He doesn't have the range of passing those two do so it does become an issue but those slagging off United aren't taking into account how poor both Arsenal and Liverpool have looked.

Yet Man U have been like a shining beacon of brilliance Laugh

Lets be real, Man U should have had 12 points on the board.

by GSC Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:16 pm

SoF is right for once.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:20 pm

While Liverpool and Arsenal should have been aiming for at least 10 but ultimately we've improved our squad far more than either of them. Lets think who you'd rather have in your team; Di Maria, Falcao, Rojo, Shaw, Blind and Herrera or Can, Balotelli, Lambert, Lovren, Lallana, Manquillo, Moreno and Markovic while losing Suarez?

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:29 pm

I would have Falcao and Di Maria (who wouldn't!!). The rest.............you can have them.

by GSC Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:33 pm

Depends if my team is desperate for defense and midfield help

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:38 pm

Good job we bought two defenders and three midfielders then isn't it.

by Breadvan Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:41 pm

Swans to beat Southampton today and stay in CL contention... Erm

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:41 pm

Gotta take into account other factors like management

I don't rate Rodgers that high but I'd have him everyday over LVG

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:43 pm

Yes so would I Olly, why anybody would want a world class manager with a proven track record I do not know instead give me a manager who places no emphasise on the defensive aspect of the game.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:46 pm

Would you? I wouldnt.

I think the point being made isnt that United have looked great (not one person has said that) but more that Liverpool mainly and Arsenal too havent been that impressive either.

by Duty281 Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:55 pm

QPR losing at home to Stoke.

When does the job security of Redknapp become an issue, particularly given the vast amounts they are spending?

by The Special Juan Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:56 pm

I thought the worst when I saw QPR v Stoke on TV but it's actually not that bad. Stoke are on for a top 10 finish this season at least.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 20 Sep 2014, 1:59 pm

I thought Harry would have learned his but he's gone and brought in players who are just not the required standard.

Caulker and Rio were a good start, but with Isla and Traore beside them and Fer in front they really are weak. Not sure Krancjar is up to it any more, nor am I massive fan on Austin and Vargas as a front pair. Barton is too important to them for such a limited player.

by **Hero** Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:00 pm

Yeah that LVG with his numerous league trophies in several countries and CL win isn't a patch on Brendan who's won...the Championship Play offs.

by Duty281 Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:10 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX8dM_pZC7M&app=desktop

Sorry Shakespeare, you have been bested.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:11 pm

Has someone put itching powder in the Manure's fans knickers today.

Lets get real, you beat a QPR team who have even been beaten by Burton Albion this season.

The proof will be when you start playing the big boys.

by compelling and rich Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:13 pm

Olly wrote:Gotta take into account other factors like management

I don't rate Rodgers that high but I'd have him everyday over LVG

a guy with one good season over a guy who's won trophies all around europe Shocked

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:16 pm

Whereas Liverpool lost an Aston Villa who have been beaten by Leyton Orient this season.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:16 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Whereas Liverpool lost an Aston Villa who have been beaten by Leyton Orient this season.

Your point?

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:19 pm

It's Aston Villa SoF at the end of the day and you were unable to beat a team that lost to Leyton Orient in the league cup because in your mind that has some relevance to any body other than Liverpool.

by The Special Juan Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:21 pm

Something has to be done about holding onto defenders shirts. If it means giving 5 penalties a game, so be it. Vidic was the worst for it when he was at Utd.

by The Special Juan Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:22 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Whereas Liverpool lost an Aston Villa who have been beaten by Leyton Orient this season.

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Lets get real, you beat a QPR team who have even been beaten by Burton Albion this season.

Aren't these the exact same point?

by compelling and rich Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:23 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Something has to be done about holding onto defenders shirts. If it means giving 5 penalties a game, so be it. Vidic was the worst for it when he was at Utd.

there is no worse culprit than skirtel, guy must have thousands of shirts at home that he has tore off his opponents

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:25 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's Aston Villa SoF at the end of the day and you were unable to beat a team that lost to Leyton Orient in the league cup because in your mind that has some relevance to any body other than Liverpool.

We Go Again! The 2014/15 Premier League Thread - Page 20 HPwa8

Stop being so touchy!!!! Laugh

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:29 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Whereas Liverpool lost an Aston Villa who have been beaten by Leyton Orient this season.

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Lets get real, you beat a QPR team who have even been beaten by Burton Albion this season.

Aren't these the exact same point?

Sigh.....................

Manure fans banging on about how tw@tting QPR is proof you will be romping the league this season and I pointed out they have been beaten by Burton Albion this season

Whereas HH's statement 'Liverpool lost an Aston Villa who have been beaten by Leyton Orient this season' did not have point or relavance in regard to any of my previous post but rather simple minded quip thumbsup

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:30 pm

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of everything you're saying and if that genuinely makes you laugh you need to get out more.

by The Special Juan Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:32 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Whereas Liverpool lost an Aston Villa who have been beaten by Leyton Orient this season.

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Lets get real, you beat a QPR team who have even been beaten by Burton Albion this season.

Aren't these the exact same point?

Sigh.....................

Manure fans banging on about how tw@tting QPR is proof you will be romping the league this season and I pointed out they have been beaten by Burton Albion this season

Whereas HH's statement 'Liverpool lost an Aston Villa who have been beaten by Leyton Orient this season' did not have point or relavance in regard to any of my previous post but rather simple minded quip

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