England v Australia

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England v Australia
29 November 2014
KO 14:30
Twickenham
Referee: Jérôme Garcès (France)

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Well 3 down - one to go. And this is a biggy. World Cup group rival....a win would be a nice mental strengthener.

So who do we start.

Have the coaches learned some lessons?...Farrell is not in form and not fit.
Also having a playmaker at 10 opens options up.

Can they issue glue to all the players so they can actually catch the ball...specifically in try scoring situations.

We've been under so much territorial pressure. It worries me because you just can't defend for 80 mins against these teams. We need to be on the attack more.

Youngs can't pass though, you are right

Ford is our 10

Great tackle Farrell

I don't expect to see twelvetrees in an England shirt again and will be disappointed if I do.

Deepens, loads of kicking now by the 9

We have such poor concentration, we just can't commit to a full switched on 80. Wake up England!

Oh Wood.

For feck sake....TACKLE!!!!

Poor tackle

How many forward passes again?

England like finishing from Aus

Surely that's forward!!!

Love watching Cooper and Beale.

GeordieFalcon wrote:Surely that's forward!!!

Which one?

Cor, we must be sounding bitter with all these complaints.

HammerofThunor wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:Surely that's forward!!!

Which one?

Cor, we must be sounding bitter with all these complaints.

Haha, very true.

Some have been a mile forward though and you can forgive the odd one being missed

What a maul.

Get in

GeordieFalcon wrote:I don't expect to see twelvetrees in an England shirt again and will be disappointed if I do.

Nah he hasn't been that bad, this is classic twelvetrees, good and bad all mixed together. Never good enough to quiet the doubters, never bad enough to lose the shirt for long

Well done ford.

Think that's the win. It was all important.

Another not penalty given

Oh, maybe not. I apologise

yappysnap wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:I don't expect to see twelvetrees in an England shirt again and will be disappointed if I do.

Nah he hasn't been that bad, this is classic twelvetrees, good and bad all mixed together. Never good enough to quiet the doubters, never bad enough to lose the shirt for long

What did he do that was good?

Good decision on mom, Morgan has had a great game

Decision making taken off Farrell and he looks a lot happier.

Yappy I'd have Barritt any day of the week over him and play a runner like Joseph or someone outside.

Or eastmond of course.

Morgan has been outstanding today and this AI series.

I think Farrell has been good since he came on. Chasing hard, tackling well. Although the last ruck, when Barritt got injured, he tried to clear out Skelton. I don't think Skelton noticed

I love Robshaw

Agree about Farrell.

Did Owens just say the rucking was good, thought that had been banned?

Rowntree is earning his money. Not sure about the rest.

Good day for the NH!

ChequeredJersey wrote:At least 2 forward passes and 2 knock ons in that passage, lol

And yet he saw a knock-on that wasn't one to deny England a possible try - the break out when Watson supposedly knocked on even though the ball clearly went backwards ...

GeordieFalcon wrote:Rowntree is earning his money. Not sure about the rest.

Personally I don't get this, yeah this series has only been ok but every team goes through bad patches. If we're not careful we'll get into the same situation as football

GeordieFalcon wrote:Rowntree is earning his money. Not sure about the rest.

Agreed, but still annoying lapses when we get on top - attacking scrums and lineouts, a few went south.

Considering how bad Australia played in parts I think we need to improve significantly for the WC, because they will.

I think Brooke's has shown he is competent at this level. If Cole comes back as good then we have 3 tightheads at international level (Thomas had done well in the 6 Nations too).

Well palyed England a good win.

Brad Barrett must be made of some very hard stuff those tackles would knocked most men clean out.

Ben Morgan Man of the Match never thought io would see that playing for England.

Again well played England.

Ashley-Cooper is a real quality player.

Delighted for Morgan. He looks really hungry (in a good way!).

Barritt had his 'Man of Steel' moment today.

A definite improvement by England and probably should have won by more.

Never thought I'd say this about an Aussie team in any sport but I feel a bit sorry for this lot... They play a really enjoyable brand of rugby but lose 3 from 4 on the tour.  Hard to believe they can't find a front 5 that can at least win their own ball, how many times do they have to play all the rugby and lose before they sort it out.

As for england, well, I guess this match was about the win, but we went back to 10 man rugby to do it. Can't say it got my juices flowing.

HammerofThunor wrote:Considering how bad Australia played in parts I think we need to improve significantly for the WC, because they will.

I think Brooke's has shown he is competent at this level. If Cole comes back as good then we have 3 tightheads at international level (Thomas had done well in the 6 Nations too).

But how much of it was England forcing Australia into mistakes?

milkyboy wrote:As for england, well, I guess this match was about the win, but we went back to 10 man rugby to do it. Can't say it got my juices flowing.

Watching England mash an Aussie scrum and drive a maul twenty yards down field never gets old.

HammerofThunor wrote:Considering how bad Australia played in parts I think we need to improve significantly for the WC, because they will.

I think Brooke's has shown he is competent at this level. If Cole comes back as good then we have 3 tightheads at international level (Thomas had done well in the 6 Nations too).

Why is there is assumption that everyone else will automatically play better but implication that we won't?

And on Hood's point re the set Piece, i made it one not straight throw and 2 scrums that were well on top, probably penalties to us under most other referees and disrupted dubiously in one case at least

milkyboy wrote:Never thought I'd say this about an Aussie team in any sport but I feel a bit sorry for this lot... They play a really enjoyable brand of rugby but lose 3 from 4 on the tour.  Hard to believe they can't find a front 5 that can at least win their own ball, how many times do they have to play all the rugby and lose before they sort it out.

As for england, well, I guess this match was about the win, but we went back to 10 man rugby to do it. Can't say it got my juices flowing.

One win and the haters are out. Go watch league

You cant win as an England fan. Its always about the other team playing well or playing bad.

So do you lot agree with Barnes? Youngs and ford 1st choice. Lessons learned by the coaching staff?

yappysnap wrote:

milkyboy wrote:Never thought I'd say this about an Aussie team in any sport but I feel a bit sorry for this lot... They play a really enjoyable brand of rugby but lose 3 from 4 on the tour.  Hard to believe they can't find a front 5 that can at least win their own ball, how many times do they have to play all the rugby and lose before they sort it out.

As for england, well, I guess this match was about the win, but we went back to 10 man rugby to do it. Can't say it got my juices flowing.

One win and the haters are out. Go watch league

should have lost all 4 matches

nathan wrote:

HammerofThunor wrote:Considering how bad Australia played in parts I think we need to improve significantly for the WC, because they will.

I think Brooke's has shown he is competent at this level. If Cole comes back as good then we have 3 tightheads at international level (Thomas had done well in the 6 Nations too).

But how much of it was England forcing Australia into mistakes?

First half especially England's rush D was the best it's been this series

Cyril wrote:

milkyboy wrote:As for england, well, I guess this match was about the win, but we went back to 10 man rugby to do it. Can't say it got my juices flowing.

Watching England mash an Aussie scrum and drive a maul twenty yards down field never gets old.

Ha, fair point Cyril.

Cyril wrote:

milkyboy wrote:As for england, well, I guess this match was about the win, but we went back to 10 man rugby to do it. Can't say it got my juices flowing.

Watching England mash an Aussie scrum and drive a maul twenty yards down field never gets old.

Ha, fair point Cyril.

Cyril wrote:

milkyboy wrote:As for england, well, I guess this match was about the win, but we went back to 10 man rugby to do it. Can't say it got my juices flowing.

Watching England mash an Aussie scrum and drive a maul twenty yards down field never gets old.

Ha, fair point Cyril.