Summer Transfer Window Thread 15/16

[Crimey]

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Now the season is over, the rumours begin!

Milner/Ings to Liverpool seems likely.
Benitez to Real Madrid, Bale staying.
Falcao is desperate to move to Chelsea.
Otamendi and Dani Alves to Manchester United.
Raheem Sterling to Arsenal

What else?

[nadeem2099]

Sevilla bid 3mill for Stoke midfielder Steven N'Zonzi. Good kick with that

[monty junior]

West Ham have put in a £14 million bid for Marseille's Dmitri Payet. Bit of an exodus ongoing at Bielsa's side at the moment.

Yea, talking of Inter even with Kongdogbia they still want Imbula from Marseille as well.

[Mat]

Sessegnon will be gone this summer anyway. Don't know why you'd want to keep two players who have been good servants but were now at best 5th choice to play in the centre of midfield.

McManaman was injured for the majority of time since joining in January. To say that Pulis doesn't like wingers is ridiculous, his two key players at Stoke were Etherington and Pennant, and then Bolasie and Puncheon at Palace. He didn't play them at Albion cos we've only had one fit wide player for the majority of his time(Brunt) and even then he's had to play left back on occassion.

Olly-Mulumbu was at his best for us as a box to box player alongside a more disciplined defensive midfielder, like Yacob or earlier on, Paul Scharner.

Not sure where you get 5th best from. I'd put our central midfield options in the following order: Gardner, Yacob, MULUMBU, Fletcher, Morrison, Dorrans, Baird, my mother, your gran, Brunt.

McManaman was fit for the last two months and barely featured. I also know that Jonas doesn't rate him and that he's not the hardest worker on the training ground. Pulis has demonstrated that he likes four CBs at the back, despite those CBs not being cut out for FB duty, and that he has no confidence in his wingers, despite having an abundance of wide players at his disposal. Etherington was only a key player for him because he could put a ball in. Pennant was atrocious for Stoke.

Mulumbu at his best is a dynamic box to box player. He's not a playmaker, he's not a finisher, but he can win a ball, is a walking yellow card, and makes for an effective combatant alongside a warrior-type DM. He does have a good pass on him but don't expect Luka Modric, expect Joe Allen.

I didn't say 5th best, I said fifth choice. Fletcher is clearly first choice, and has been a huge influence since he came in. Yacob was a key performer under Pulis and Morrison won player of the season. Then you've got Gardner, who was used heavily by Pulis albeit out of position. And as it is, I'd have rated Mulumbu as our fourth best central option, instead of Gardner.

Jonas who? Olsson? Not sure his opinion really counts for much in team selection. McManaman tore Felipe Luis apart in that final home game, and I think he'll be a big player for us this season. I won't disagree on the four CB's across the back, I imagine that's why we're after Mings, looking at the size of him.

Is that not the job of a winger to put a good ball in? I don't know how well he played at Stoke, but Pennant was a regular and you can't say he wasn't a winger, as is Etherington.

[monty junior]

Inter Milan signed France International Goeffrey Kongodbia for around 28 million pounds from Monaco.

Not sure of this, it's what they need but for a central midfielder, more defensively minded is a lot to pay for a team with no CL.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

The Mail reckon Cech to Arsenal is done

[Fernando]

Sky saying Slyvain Distin is heading to Bournemouth. Good signing even at his age tbh.

[Guest]

Distin is gone, absolutely gone nowadays. No legs & his final season at Everton was embarrassing.

We've set a price of £30m on Berahino, so he's not going anywhere.

[Fernando]

Don't worry Liam, Liverpool are always around to waste 30m+ on English talent Even if Distin doesn't play much he will teach the CB's alot in training.

[NickisBHAFC]

Sky saying Slyvain Distin is heading to Bournemouth. Good signing even at his age tbh.

Legs have completely gone but as a squad player and even a mentor to the young players he could be a useful addition.

[Adam D]

We've set a price of £30m on Berahino, so he's not going anywhere.

I would rather pay £30m for Berahino than Sterling (even at £30m)

[Guest]

Luciano Vietto joins Atletico Madrid. Top signing, very impressive player.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Get out of here Davey, there's no appletinis for you!

If Man United haven't made a move for Cech at all then they are foolish. Signing of the window this, great deal for Arsenal.

[compelling and rich]

Get out of here Davey, there's no appletinis for you!

If Man United haven't made a move for Cech at all then they are foolish. Signing of the window this, great deal for Arsenal.

agreed, would have been my first choice if de gea does go. he's proven premier league keeper whos available cheap. perhaps he doesnt want to up root his family and stick in london

[Adam D]

Get out of here Davey, there's no appletinis for you!

If Man United haven't made a move for Cech at all then they are foolish. Signing of the window this, great deal for Arsenal.

Both are young and talented. Not much to choose between them except that Sterling thinks he is the best player in the world.

[GSC]

Sterling is far ahead of Berahino

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

"Except that Sterling thinks he is the best player in the world"

Genuine lolz - FL-esque

[Guest]

Sterling is far ahead of Berahino

Maybe in your eyes, not many others. As an offensive option, I'd rather have Saido, than raheem. Saido scores more, better finisher & more composed, raheem is just another speed merchant who can't hit a barn door & is over hyped because he's at a bigger club.

[Nakatomi Plaza]

Inter Milan signed France International Goeffrey Kongodbia for around 28 million pounds from Monaco.

Not sure of this, it's what they need but for a central midfielder, more defensively minded is a lot to pay for a team with no CL.

I wonder if Mancini sees a little of Yaya Toure in Kondogbia, and may try to convert him to a box to box powerhouse, rather than a defensive midfielder.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Sterling is far ahead of Berahino

Maybe in your eyes, not many others. As an offensive option, I'd rather have Saido, than raheem. Saido scores more, better finisher & more composed, raheem is just another speed merchant who can't hit a barn door & is over hyped because he's at a bigger club.

I'd go along with that, they're both a-holes so it doesn't make much difference.

[GSC]

Sterling is far ahead of Berahino

Maybe in your eyes, not many others. As an offensive option, I'd rather have Saido, than raheem. Saido scores more, better finisher & more composed, raheem is just another speed merchant who can't hit a barn door & is over hyped because he's at a bigger club.

That would make a ton of sense if one weren't a striker and the other a midfielder.

[compelling and rich]

neither have proven anything yet for me, one good season and typical english mentality they both think they are superstars. i genuinely believe that anybody pays big bucks for them will prove a mistake. once they get the big pay rise its only going to reaffirm there opinion of themselves, and you wont get much improvement out of them

[Duty281]

Sterling is far ahead of Berahino

Maybe in your eyes, not many others. As an offensive option, I'd rather have Saido, than raheem. Saido scores more, better finisher & more composed, raheem is just another speed merchant who can't hit a barn door & is over hyped because he's at a bigger club.

That would make a ton of sense if one weren't a striker and the other a midfielder.

You expect Liam to know that?!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

They are what they are - both promising young players with potential to be great, to be honest I'd say Berahino's off field issues are far worse than Sterling's and also Sterling has been playing/proven to shown his potential at the highest level. Berahino hasn't.

Ultimately there's a reason one is at West Brom and the other has played at a World Cup, in the Champions League etc etc

[Guest]

saido just hasnt been given the opportunity at that level, so that's a pointless statement. Gareth Bale has never played at a WC, yet Emile Heskey has........means nothing.

[Hammersmith harrier]

They are what they are - both promising young players with potential to be great, to be honest I'd say Berahino's off field issues are far worse than Sterling's and also Sterling has been playing/proven to shown his potential at the highest level. Berahino hasn't.

Ultimately there's a reason one is at West Brom and the other has played at a World Cup, in the Champions League etc etc

That reason being that one was bought by Liverpool as a youngster while the other came through the WBA youth system; the latter two are a result of the club he plays for.

[GSC]

saido just hasnt been given the opportunity at that level, so that's a pointless statement. Gareth Bale has never played at a WC, yet Emile Heskey has........means nothing.

Again, this would make sense if Heskey and Bale were the same nationality

[Guest]

Newcastle linked with Joel Matip for £10m. Have no idea what to make of that. We're also not bidding for Charlie Austin because 'we think' he wants to stay in London, yet we don't really have any idea, so just holding off. Just f****** put a bid in!!!!

[GSC]

They are what they are - both promising young players with potential to be great, to be honest I'd say Berahino's off field issues are far worse than Sterling's and also Sterling has been playing/proven to shown his potential at the highest level. Berahino hasn't.

Ultimately there's a reason one is at West Brom and the other has played at a World Cup, in the Champions League etc etc

That reason being that one was bought by Liverpool as a youngster while the other came through the WBA youth system; the latter two are a result of the club he plays for.

I fail to see how being bought by (at the time) a big club is to Sterlings detriment

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

They are what they are - both promising young players with potential to be great, to be honest I'd say Berahino's off field issues are far worse than Sterling's and also Sterling has been playing/proven to shown his potential at the highest level. Berahino hasn't.

Ultimately there's a reason one is at West Brom and the other has played at a World Cup, in the Champions League etc etc

That reason being that one was bought by Liverpool as a youngster while the other came through the WBA youth system; the latter two are a result of the club he plays for.

Kind of the whole point ain't it...Sterling is more talented/more potential thus got snapped up by a "big club".

[Nakatomi Plaza]

Reports from Spain are suggesting that Jackson Martinez will replace Mario Mandzukic at Atletico. Another blow for AC Milan as they seemed to think they had sealed the deal last week.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Reports from Spain are suggesting that Jackson Martinez will replace Mario Mandzukic at Atletico. Another blow for AC Milan as they seemed to think they had sealed the deal last week.

I thought that was already done...good signing for Atletico that

[Guest]

Luciano Vietto & Jackson Martinez on board for Simeone. Top signings, hopefully they will challenge again next season.

Southampton sign Maarten Stekelenburg on loan

[Azzy]

They are what they are - both promising young players with potential to be great, to be honest I'd say Berahino's off field issues are far worse than Sterling's and also Sterling has been playing/proven to shown his potential at the highest level. Berahino hasn't.

Ultimately there's a reason one is at West Brom and the other has played at a World Cup, in the Champions League etc etc

That reason being that one was bought by Liverpool as a youngster while the other came through the WBA youth system; the latter two are a result of the club he plays for.

Kind of the whole point ain't it...Sterling is more talented/more potential thus got snapped up by a "big club".

Not really, Berahino's family had a lot of influence on him during his teenage years, whereas Sterling was off having kids aged 16.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Sterling is better.

[NickisBHAFC]

Sterling is better than Saido without question. 

Both players are bell*nds mind.

[Duty281]

Yeah Saido, you're so selfish.

http://www.wateraid.org/uk/news/news/england-footballer-saido-berahino-becomes-a-wateraid-ambassador

[Azzy]

Nothing funnier than seeing a grown man cry because someone disagrees with him.

It's one of the reasons I'm enjoying seeing Sterling's already-poor reputation being ruined. He thinks he's God's gift to football and he's really not. Quite why City want him and Wilshere I'll never know.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Might be best to stick to things we cant worry about libel over.

I personally dont care about who is the most annoying when it comes to who is the better player. Berahino is a cracking player, but I'd be worried if he wasnt a better finisher considering hes a striker. Sterling is a bigger threat to a team, he carries the ball at pace and glides through and round people. I'm surprised that Saido isnt at a better club, but considering the climate and the need for homegrown players I think its a statement in itself that Berahino hasnt been snapped up.

[jbeadlesbigrighthand]

Nothing funnier than seeing a grown man cry because someone disagrees with him.

It's one of the reasons I'm enjoying seeing Sterling's already-poor reputation being ruined. He thinks he's God's gift to football and he's really not. Quite why City want him and Wilshere I'll never know.

I'd imagine City want Wilshere and Sterling because a) they need to boost their home-grown contingent and b) their squad needs refreshing, so it makes sense to try to bring in young players with bright futures.

I can't comment on either player's attitude, but both look like they'll be fixtures in the England team for the next 10 years. Frankly, I can't imagine why any top team wouldn't want them (English teams at least).

[Azzy]

If City want to boost their home-grown contingent, they should go out there and buy quality English players with good attitudes. Clyne, Delph, Barkley, Stones, Kane. Sterling and Wilshere both have suspect attitudes towards their careers and if I were Sheikh Mansoor I'd not invest so much money into two massive risks.

[Nakatomi Plaza]

Injuries have held Wilshere back more than a poor attitude. I saw an interview with him before the Slovenia game, where he said he'll be starting pre-season training earlier then the rest of his colleagues as he doesn't need as much rest due to missing so much of last season.

[Guest]

Liverpool agree deal for firminho

[Guest]

He's not prolific, reason why he's ending up at Liverpool.

[Guest]

Firminho isn't a striker, he's more of a no.10 or wide man, so was never going to be prolific. If he's replacing Sterling, then it's a good capture.

[GSC]

Educating Liam on the relative strike rates of strikers and wingers/AMs is a futile task.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Never seen this dude play but he has a rubbish name so he's already off on the wrong foot for me

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Think its a very good capture and shows Liverpool working at the better end of their target criteria.

[monty junior]

I thought he'd go to a better team than Liverpool, great capture for then, he's better than Sterling anyway.

[monty junior]

Firminho isn't a striker, he's more of a no.10 or wide man, so was never going to be prolific. If he's replacing Sterling, then it's a good capture.

Yup, still good stats for such a position, pretty much a goal every two games the last two seasons in the Bundesliga and already 4 goals in 7 caps for Brazil.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

At least Ramos to United gets to be the boom or bust transfer rumour of the summer.

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