Cincinnati Masters

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SB... did you hear what Lopez said at the net?

Lopez: 'You are flying all over the place...'
Federer: 'Yes, I have a few more years left...'

Very

Can't see any result tomorrow for Murray than a straight sets loss - only consolation being that it's not likely to be as bad as the O2 thrashing. I'd predict something like 6-4 6-2.

As we know, Fed now needs to win the title to get the no.2 seed at the US Open. Obviously that's really valuable to him - to get a 50/50 chance of Nishikori instead of Djokovic in his half of the draw (quite a big difference given Nishikori's physical frailties but then again Djokovic's arm could fall off at any time!). But what about Djokovic - I was thinking he'd much rather be sure that Federer, rather than Murray, would be in the other half - but now I'm not so sure. What do the Djokovic supporters here think? I think Djokovic would be confident that he could beat either of them in BO5 sets, but that due to style of play, beating Murray takes a lot more out of him so he'd prefer not have to go through him to get to the final. (Of course, I say that knowing that either Murray or Djokovic are going to get a beatdown from Stan in the QF anyway, haha!).

Murray's contrary enough to beat Roger tomorrow, but I can't see it. Andy's serve looked generally impressive and of course he's always in every service game

Likely to be the night match as well, so the slower conditions would give the Scot a better chance

Whatever happens in the next couple of days, it's very hard to see who other than the Top 3 could win the US this year. All are playing far better than a year ago

Fed in absolute( starts with a g ) mode in this tourny.  Man, I wish he had played Rafa.  Too bad us open has been slowed so much. Cinci used to mirror Ashe stadium surface.

Lopez at the handshake "you were f'ing flying all over the place"
Fed "ah yes, I have a few more years left, you do too"

"A few more years left"!!

Best news all year.

Federer certainly the man time waits for!

Murray looking tired and coming through long matches, having won Toronto last week. Fed looking fresh and steaming through the draw... Can only see a Federer win. In fact, another two gruelling battles may be the last thing Murray needs.

Still, think Murray has a great shout in New York.

Fed to take Cincy, USO and WTF.

Unless Djoko gets some dodgy egg chamber stuff.

banbrotam wrote:Murray's contrary enough to beat Roger tomorrow, but I can't see it. Andy's serve looked generally impressive and of course he's always in every service game

Likely to be the night match as well, so the slower conditions would give the Scot a better chance

Whatever happens in the next couple of days, it's very hard to see who other than the Top 3 could win the US this year. All are playing far better than a year ago

Both men's semis on in afternoon session. Women's semis in the evening. Novak/Dolgo on first. Can't see Murray beating Federer especially given the amount he has played over the last 10 days. Would have favoured Federer anyway as I don't think Murray has worked out a game plan to counter Federer's current style of play. If Federer's serve is working he will win.

lags72 wrote:

Jahu wrote:Come on Dolgo, crush him

Time you had a new catchphrase Jahu

Thats easy, but can you guarantee I wont be be banned?

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Can't see Murray beating Federer especially given the amount he has played over the last 10 days. Would have favoured Federer anyway as I don't think Murray has worked out a game plan to counter Federer's current style of play. If Federer's serve is working he will win.

Not just the last 10 days .....I believe Murray has actually played more tennis during the season to date than anyone else on Tour. But I still don't think this, of itself, rules out another match win today.

Your point re the Federer serve is key. There have been other times when he has breezed through early rounds only to dip significantly at the business end - most notably this year's W of course where he produced that masterclass in the semis, but could not replicate a similar level in the title decider.

Jahu - no guarantees from me, sorry

TRuffin wrote:Fed in absolute( starts with a g ) mode in this tourny.  Man, I wish he had played Rafa.  Too bad us open has been slowed so much. Cinci used to mirror Ashe stadium surface.

Lopez at the handshake "you were f'ing flying all over the place"
Fed "ah yes, I have a few more years left, you do too"

If Federer had shaved for all his night matches, he would have been a shave faster. He is slower by a mile.

Murray is playing the attrition game as he has shown in all matches. His coaches are killing his natural game. Gasquet was a hoot in the second set. Every service game and every rally was deja vu. The exact same shots repeated, Murray DHBH CC to Gasquet SHBH CC.

lags72 wrote:Jahu - no guarantees from me, sorry  

I will ban you [Jahu] in a heartbeat, sweetheart.

Lags is too civilized to deserve a ban.

Hey LF, missed you (but not JHM )

Hope you had a good summer.

Just watched the murray dimitrov highlights. Good grief Murray's tactics were so f. boring. If he gets it on his forehand, loop it high to Dimi's backhand. If he gets it on his backhand, roll it into dimi's backhand. So boring and actually bad for murray because he can't beat even better retrievers like djokovic or Wawrinka's on fire playing like that, and it's hard to turn on the aggression just for single matches.

Fed trashing Lopez on rerun.

Andy is due a Fed trashing tonight, but only if he can trash Djoko as well.

Dolgo with some nice net play.

Comeonnnn today is the day you become a MAN boy

Dolgo breaks, 2:1 up.

Djoko "acting" tired, the usual bait.

Dolgo gifts the break back for no reason.

3;3

Dolgo breaks again with a great drop shot, leaving Djoko asleep.

4:3.

Hmm, Novak playing terribly so far. Looks pretty tired. Dolgo looking good.

Just hold serve boy, no rush.

5:3

Winners 10 to 2 for Dolgo.

Djoko afraid of Fed match tomorrow, even worst a Andy match again!!!

Dolgo giving a masterclass of dropshots to Djoko from the base line and some superb play.

Dolgo takes first set 6:4 with an ace.

Come on pack him out.

Such an enigma! Love Dolgo!
He can outhit djoko with ease.

Dolgo winning the set with a first serve % of 40%. Very poor from Novak who didn't hit a single groundstroke winner.

There is no "lighter on his feet" player on tour, he plays like he is on magic carpet, like a feather on the wind.

Shame he has not achieved more.

Break him NOW

Djoko can't see the balls

Slice him baby slice, break his back.

laverfan wrote:Murray is playing the attrition game as he has shown in all matches. His coaches are killing his natural game.

Yes, I was also surprised how much Murray was about attrition only in the bits I have seen so far this tournament. But if it gets him #2 ranking in the world, he will continue to play that way.

Djoko is spiritually broken for USO, Andy has crushed his soul last week

This is the kind of performance Dolgo has been due for a long while.

With his variety, he's exactly the kind of player who should be able to give Novak a hard time.

Only way he loses this is if he collapses physically (which is always his Achilles heel).

Holy milk, Dolgo shooting projectiles, Djoko should give this up and rest for USO.

No Cincy, no RG.

If haddie is watching Dolgo, he plays such risky tennis. Rafa is a polar opposite compared to him.

Don't rush Dolgo, do a little Nadal, just grind him, he cant run.

HM Murdock wrote:This is the kind of performance Dolgo has been due for a long while.

With his variety, he's exactly the kind of player who should be able to give Novak a hard time.

Only way he loses this is if he collapses physically (which is always his Achilles heel).

Not sure.
His game style is so high risk, if his level drops or he goes for it too much that can change things.

Murray's coaches clearly aren't "killing his natural game". They have done a fantastic job with him. He clearly is struggling with tiredness this week - unsurprisingly after Canada - and he has therefore looked miles short of his normal standard. Frustrating, as its going to cost him another defeat to Fed.

LuvSports! wrote:Not sure.
His game style is so high risk, if his level drops or he goes for it too much that can change things.

Maybe.

But bo3 and already a set up... it's looking good for him.

As far s Andy is healthy, no one cares for his natural game, its good enough to beat Djoko, mostly.

Born Slippy wrote:Frustrating, as its going to cost him another defeat to Fed.

Jinx?

Djoko gets some rubbing and an illegal bottle of something from his box, arrest him!!!

Oh, not the flipping trainer again.

HMM tell him to let this match go and go chill for USO.

No Pills Djoko, NO PILLS, save your body for USO.

This match ain't worth pills.

Jahu wrote:HMM tell him to let this match go and go chill for USO.

I don't think USO is looking too likely on current form!

I want this done quickly or else I may have to miss the Fed vs Andy match.

I said it last week, Djoko should skip Cincy and rest, not worth it. He can win it after 2 years when Fed retires.

Andy is floating by anyway with tired play.

Break him now, get a move on boy, end the pain Djoko is in.

I find myself rather rooting for Dolgo.

Weird.

You are a genuine Fan HMM.

Oh look, 3 BPs for Djoko and he gets the break.

Dolgo taken the MTO bait hahahaha