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Post by hazharrison Wed 16 Sep 2015, 11:43 am

Rumours this fight could be imminent at 126 (with a rehydration clause).

Who wins?

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Post by AdamT Wed 16 Sep 2015, 11:45 am

Rigo

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Post by hazharrison Wed 16 Sep 2015, 11:49 am

I'm going for Lomachenko. Hipster fight of the year this one. Let's hope boxing moves forward in the same vein after the ridiculous May-Pac fiasco.

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Post by AdamT Wed 16 Sep 2015, 11:51 am

Long as Rigo hasn't aged too bad I think he can pull it off.

Yeah May vs Pac was a joke. It is a pity the fighter that usually throws volume punches, got gun shy. I blame him.

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Post by hazharrison Wed 16 Sep 2015, 11:52 am

AdamT wrote:Long as Rigo hasn't aged too bad I think he can pull it off.

Yeah May vs Pac was a joke. It is a pity the fighter that usually throws volume punches, got gun shy. I blame him.

Both were faded - they left it too late. This one should be a cracker, though.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Wed 16 Sep 2015, 11:56 am

Not sure, but what a super fight that is! I'll slide towards Loma, but no confidence in that pick!

Props to both men for taking it, if Rigo loses its a massive blow, gives people more of an excuse not to fight him, he is the president of the 'who needs him' club

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Post by BoxingFan88 Wed 16 Sep 2015, 11:58 am

AdamT wrote:Long as Rigo hasn't aged too bad I think he can pull it off.

Yeah May vs Pac was a joke. It is a pity the fighter that usually throws volume punches, got gun shy. I blame him.

He didn't get gun shy, the one who wasn't engaging was Floyd, Pacquiao was countering him and did it pretty effectively considering Floyd pulled his punches just to get some sort of glove contact.

I wish people would stop blaming Pacquiao.

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Post by AdamT Wed 16 Sep 2015, 11:59 am

ok f..k going down the May-Pac road, this is a good fight.

Rigo is naturally smaller but I like him in this fight. Lomachenko is always adapting to the pro game and is younger, so I wouldn't be over confident.

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Post by AdamT Wed 16 Sep 2015, 11:59 am

BoxingFan88 wrote:
AdamT wrote:Long as Rigo hasn't aged too bad I think he can pull it off.

Yeah May vs Pac was a joke. It is a pity the fighter that usually throws volume punches, got gun shy. I blame him.

He didn't get gun shy, the one who wasn't engaging was Floyd, Pacquiao was countering him and did it pretty effectively considering Floyd pulled his punches just to get some sort of glove contact.

I wish people would stop blaming Pacquiao.

Pull your head out of the sand and watch the full fight. Them clips on youtube are a farce. Watch the real fight.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 16 Sep 2015, 12:02 pm

Think Rigo is a tad better overall, but size matters and Loma will squeak it.

Absolute cracker if it comes off though. Genuine ray of light for boxing. Two best amateurs of the last decade, possibly ever, going head to head in, close to, their primes.

Terrific stuff!!

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Post by AdamT Wed 16 Sep 2015, 12:10 pm

Tophat it ia near the way I see it. I would like Rigo to win. Feel sorry for him. He should of had big fights.

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Post by Coxy001 Wed 16 Sep 2015, 1:30 pm

One for the purists, not one for the neanderthal fan who watches UFC. Will be more feinting, ducking, dancing and prancing than most fighters do in a lifetime during this fight.

Will still watch it though.

Oh, and fancy Rigo to outbox him. Not exactly sticking my neck out there with the bookies with this one though.

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Post by Dipper Brown Wed 16 Sep 2015, 1:33 pm

'Hipster fight of the year' ha ha, I like that Haz.

If it happens, I'll go for Loma.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Wed 16 Sep 2015, 1:36 pm

Am one for the purists and enjoy a good even tactical battle. I liked Rigo v Donaire but that fight got panned by the casual.........even by Arum.

I would go for Rigo in this one.

I like the term Boxing Hipster aswell Laugh

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Post by milkyboy Wed 16 Sep 2015, 3:30 pm

Like toppy, I think Rigondeaux is the better talent/better boxer and I see him taking an early lead, but lomo is bigger stronger younger and I fancy him to finish the stronger and take it.

I'd take a flair fight over a hipster, but be great if it happens.

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Post by 3fingers Wed 16 Sep 2015, 6:13 pm

Lomo wins this, unfortunately

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Post by milkyboy Wed 16 Sep 2015, 6:28 pm

You caved in to public opinion and wrote your boy off against donaire though fingers as I remember, and he proved a lot of people wrong that night. Live fight this if it happens.

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Post by Lance Wed 16 Sep 2015, 6:38 pm

Think Lomo wins this. Depends who the judges are as neither will get hurt, but I think Lomos flashier style and faster pace will make him look like he's done better.

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Post by 3fingers Wed 16 Sep 2015, 8:14 pm

My memory is a little different to yours Milky. I said it would be difficult, and it might have come too soon. However I was confident, and said so, that if Rigo was able to dictate the pace and slow the bout then he'd frustrate Donaire and win. I was concerned about Donaires left hook, what with Rigo being a southpaw, though I was sure Rigo's rear hand would be just as effective against the orthodox fighter. I was a little concerned about Donaires size but have always maintained donaire was over-rated and looked better than he really was against come forward midgets.

Lomo will not allow pace to be dictated, he's too clever for that, so will use his superior explosive athleticism, youth and size, to full effect to get the win. If the pace was to slow, and it became a single shot chess match, then he'd hold his own but would be outpointed.

Lomo is one of the most skilled boxers on the planet (not as good as Rigo) but, unfortunately, his youth and size tips this fight in his favour.

No one should be fooled by the 2kg that separates Super Bantamweight and Featherweight. Lomo is a stone heavier than Rigo in reality.

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Post by RanjitPatel Wed 16 Sep 2015, 8:39 pm

Rigo is getting on a bit now and Lomachenko is approaching his peak. Not that he couldn't beat a peak Rigo but I think he's catching him at the right time too. Lomachenko by ko.

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Post by milkyboy Wed 16 Sep 2015, 8:45 pm

3fingers wrote:My memory is a little different to yours Milky. I said it would be difficult, and it might have come too soon. However I was confident, and said so, that if Rigo was able to dictate the pace and slow the bout then he'd frustrate Donaire and win. I was concerned about Donaires left hook, what with Rigo being a southpaw, though I was sure Rigo's rear hand would be just as effective against the orthodox fighter. I was a little concerned about Donaires size but have always maintained donaire was over-rated and looked better than he really was against come forward midgets.

Lomo will not allow pace to be dictated, he's too clever for that, so will use his superior explosive athleticism, youth and size, to full effect to get the win. If the pace was to slow, and it became a single shot chess match, then he'd hold his own but would be outpointed.

Lomo is one of the most skilled boxers on the planet (not as good as Rigo) but, unfortunately, his youth and size tips this fight in his favour.

No one should be fooled by the 2kg that separates Super Bantamweight and Featherweight. Lomo is a stone heavier than Rigo in reality.

I probably do you a disservice fella, I'm a bit senile. I remember you starting off confidently bucking the trend, but wavering come fight night... I gave him a chance then and am not going to write him off now, but as per my earlier comment I do see this fight similarly to you. 

Personally I think at distance there's a clear advantage for rigo, but at close quarters it's a different matter, I'm sure rigo can keep distance for a while but i doubt for long enough. That's kind of what I said for the donaire fight though!

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Post by 3fingers Wed 16 Sep 2015, 9:01 pm

I think you're right, I started off really confident then come fight night I was caking it. I was thinking sh!t, everyone else can't be wrong, I must know sh!t about boxing.  


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Post by 3fingers Wed 16 Sep 2015, 9:08 pm

Lomo is more skilled and experienced than Donaire.

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Post by milkyboy Wed 16 Sep 2015, 9:19 pm

U3fingers wrote:I think you're right, I started off really confident then come fight night I was caking it. I was thinking sh!t, everyone else can't be wrong, I must know sh!t about boxing.  

Pre fight nerves... You forgot that we all know f all.

Lomo is probably closer to prime and a better all round boxer than donaire, rigo a few years further past his prime

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Post by 3fingers Wed 16 Sep 2015, 9:42 pm

I should probably clarify what I mean by more experienced than Donaire.

I mean against World Class Amateurs, like Rigo.

Rigo is definitely past his peak. It's a shame no one saw his peak (26-29 yo).

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Post by Hands Of Stone Wed 16 Sep 2015, 9:45 pm

Gonna go with the majority here, Rigo probably the better fighter but Lomachenkos size, youth, form is more then Rigo's superior ability

Rigo really hasn't done anything since Donaire, and while donaire is a very good win Donaire is a smaller fighter than loma and isn't as technical as him.

Lomachenko UD in a frustrating to watch borefest

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Post by sittingringside Wed 16 Sep 2015, 11:02 pm

I predicted Rigo on by points over Donaire in the 606 prediction game, sealing my credentials as an authentic BELIEVER. But yeah, youth and size a tricky mix that will see Lomachenko through on this one I think. Always felt Donaire was a little one handed in his approach (although he also had a wrecking ball right when he wanted to use it), but Lomachenko won't present the same kind of puzzle.

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Post by jimdig Thu 17 Sep 2015, 7:04 am

Fight not happening, lomo fighting koasikhia.
Who? Yep me neither.

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Post by hazharrison Thu 17 Sep 2015, 7:36 am

jimdig wrote:Fight not happening, lomo fighting koasikhia.
Who? Yep me neither.

Rumours that Rigo priced himself out (I guess he was making concessions on weight). Shame.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 17 Sep 2015, 9:29 am

Yeh, Fat Dan suggested a lack of commercial awareness on Rigo's team's part....

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 17 Sep 2015, 9:41 am

Not really sure how commercial a non English speaking Cuban who is too good to get into competitive fights can be....

He better start making money soon because 34 and over is old by 122 standards..


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