The Jeff - Round 3

First topic message reminder :

As LT is away I'll post the latest version, but I won't provide anywhere near the level of detail that he does, but at least it gives us the option to discuss the games.

Saturday 31st
Sarries (1st) v Irish (12th) 1pm
Bath (8th) v Quins (6th) 1.30pm
Glaws (5th) v Wuss (10th) 2pm

Sunday 1st November
Falcons (11th) v Chiefs (3rd) 1pm BT
Sale (9th) v Saints (4th) 2.30pm
Tigers (2nd) v Wasps (7th) 3.15pm BT

Perhaps he needs to adopt the Wallace hairstyle P4 if he wishes to be more visible

Maybe so... Now that Wallace seems to be adopting Chabal's hairstyle, his own one is available for someone else to use..

Is there any streams available for the games? Really want to watch Bath v Quins

little_badger wrote:Is there any streams available for the games? Really want to watch Bath v Quins

If you have a Bet365 account with a small deposit in it

As with the game in us, Irish demonstrating a fantastic driving maul - just a touch greedy ignoring the ref when he screams use it - after moving about 40m forward

Allianz park looking about 2/3rds full. Will be disappointing for Wray and co

And dreadful call by ref Garner. Itoje obviously (to anyone who has been to specsavers recently) fails to release before playing Skivington, yet gets the penalty for holding on.

Shocking kick though from in front of the posts by Farrell.

Second miss, much harder though, from Farrell.

Penalty again for holding on - Sarries have sussed the ref quite quickly. Have to say though that so far in AP refs seem to be allowing defenders to get away with a lot when they compete for the ball. Very few defenders supporting their own weight or releasing the player first in all games I have seen.

Linouts have been really poor for LI - not helped by a mobile drumming duo who were stood 2m away banging like crazy.

TRY for LI.

Tikoirotuma comes off his wing and blasts through two shoddy tackles.

After some bright attacking play from both sides, Evans gives the visitors the lead at the Rec

LondonTiger wrote:And dreadful call by ref Garner. Itoje obviously (to anyone who has been to specsavers recently) fails to release before playing Skivington, yet gets the penalty for holding on.

Shocking kick though from in front of the posts by Farrell.

'Bigger' teams getting the benefit again maybe?

Can't believe there's no AP on the TV today

First appearance of the smug permatanned one.

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Can't believe there's no AP on the TV today

I was thinking the same - especially as they are all timed to finish before the RWC final starts ...

Bath are all over the Quins scrum atm, but keep blowing opportunities to score.

I see that Sky are showing Australia v NZ shoretly - a repeat of the RC match. Sneaky.

Bath suffer white line fever again, having pinched another Quins lineout and making excellent ground.

Bath finally score the try after pretty much 20 minutes of try line pressure.

First time they ran the ball down Visser's channel I think

And ford converts from the right touch line to maintain a 100% kicking success rate in AP this season.

Goode has just gone over for Saracens second try.

Ashton found himself in a similar position but shipped the pass too early and ended up firing it into touch. Goode was much more composed, holding his defender, and then dummying before going on to score.

Every time I notice Goode in a club game, he's usually doing something nice. Wish I had the confidence that he could do the same regularly at Test level.

Just when Sarries had opened up an eleven point lead, Irish score a converted try through a driving maul. 18-14 now

If he had gas, Goode would be a top FB. He's just so bloody slow

Quins getting some good attack in now, good try by Care then a pen then a squandered opportunity

Sounds like the dishing out and not dishing out of cards in Sarries v LI is showing more inconsistencies again - favouring the 'bigger' sides - not seen it myself but that's what I'm hearing

Absolutely gutted at that. Much improved from last week and I reckon we deserved something from that game.

What about the cards/no cards Ozzy - didn't see the match but sounds like Tiks was harsh and Burger (and possibly Ijole) lucky to get away without seeing yellow?

LI deserved something. Sarries pulled away during YC period. For me it was a clear cut YC being a high clothes linbe that in days gone by would have been red.

However I reckon I saw punches thrown by  two Sarries in the aftermath and pushing and shoving from all sides. Sarries should also have seen Yellow and could have been red (if eithe rpunch landed - not sure they did). LI could have had more players binned for the melee too though.

Sgt_Pooly wrote:If he had gas, Goode would be a top FB. He's just so bloody slow

His tackling is feeble to, higjlighted by a minor road bump style in Tiks try.

That's my issue LT. Consistency. If Tiks is a yellow, then Itoje has to go for slamming our players head into the ground in his charge down follow through. Points scored when we were down to 14 cost us getting anything from the game. Tough to take.

Ozzy3213 wrote:That's my issue LT.  Consistency.  If Tiks is a yellow, then Itoje has to go for slamming our players head into the ground in his charge down follow through.  Points scored when we were down to 14 cost us getting anything from the game.  Tough to take.

Di not see Itoje's challenge. Would be disappointed if anyone tries to claim Tiks did not deserve yellow though.


Maitland seemed to struggle defensively I thought - mainly positioning.

HMM, this crusade on no arms tackles is getting ridiculous. Eastmond binned for what seems rather innocuous

Should mean the "WeHaveNotCheated" will lose. Mr SmugPermedPermaTan will not be happy.

Perhaps lawyers could be called and the referee brought to order?

"Bath's humiliation almost complete" says the commentator.

I like the way Mike Ford is developing the Bath team, but this is indeed a humiliation

LT did you see Burger apparently shoulder charge an LI player in the soft dangly bits off the ball? If correctly described shows more inconsistency re Eastmond above?

Gloucester 19 Worcester 22 on the BBC live score at the moment (15:17). Dunno how that game clock stands.

Sounds like Warriors are doing well again ... worrying for LI and Falcons ...

57 minutes gone

Try to Glaws 24:22

LondonTiger wrote:HMM, this crusade on no arms tackles is getting ridiculous. Eastmond binned for what seems rather innocuous

Should mean the "WeHaveNotCheated" will lose. Mr SmugPermedPermaTan will not be happy.

Perhaps lawyers could be called and the referee brought to order?

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Agree, was soft

Happy with that ESP the second half

Bad luck Bath

Heaf wrote:LT did you see Burger apparently shoulder charge an LI player in the soft dangly bits off the ball?  If correctly described shows more inconsistency re Eastmond above?

Didn't. sorry. Trying to watch 3 games at one point

Ref denies May the TBP try for a forward pass - that was not forward. Ref called it live - but having seen replay bet he goes to TMO next time.

LondonTiger wrote:

Heaf wrote:LT did you see Burger apparently shoulder charge an LI player in the soft dangly bits off the ball?  If correctly described shows more inconsistency re Eastmond above?

Didn't. sorry. Trying to watch 3 games at one point

No worries from what I'm hearing the Tiks yellow was fair enough but Sarries got away with 3 or 4 that should have been yellow as well including Burger's shoulder charge off the ball.

LondonTiger wrote:Ref denies May the TBP try for a forward pass - that was not forward. Ref called it live - but having seen replay bet he goes to TMO next time.

Doesn't get any better does it ...

Wuss just conceded 3 penalties at a 5m scrum and given a warning. Not one has moved though, so YC I guess if next goes down.

And YC duly given. To the TH, but could have been the BS who slipped his binding and was trying to bind on Morgan

Wuss take it to uncontested scrums.

And steal the lineout.

Just seems wrong to me.

Where are their replacement props? Is the rule they don't have to lose another player as it's uncontested due to a card? Never quite kept up with that reg.

Heaf wrote:Where are their replacement props?  Is the rule they don't have to lose another player as it's uncontested due to a card?  Never quite kept up with that reg.

Replacement TH was withdrawn with an injury, they said spare LH could not cover.

I did think they had said in those circumstances that they should lose another player - but never seemed to happen. So in the end just a 2pt win for Glaws. Wuss have real spirit - but really deserved the TBP win, being denied first by a poor reffing error, then by the uncontested scrums. That last penalty which earnt the YC was going backwards pretty quickly so could have been a PT.